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#21 Kazzamo

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 05:08 PM

When it gets to dark ages I say they reskin all the mechs to look like the wizkids minis.

#22 Madog

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 05:21 PM

The period around the Clan wars is the best known, thanks to the other video games and novelizations. It also gives the most diversity of mechs and weapons, all spaced apart nicely.

It would be cool to see various period servers though. Separate instances of the game universe set in the Star League, 4th Succession War, even Dark Ages.

#23 Afoxi

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 05:21 PM

I know I'm a clan person and very much hated in the BT community, but I have this to say:

Assuming it's possible but very rare: If I ever score a Timberwolf salvage, first thing I'm doing is grabbing FRAPS and recording me selling it to post on these forums.

Ergo, 3049 is perfect.

Edited by Afoxi, 02 June 2012 - 05:22 PM.


#24 Sychodemus

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 05:32 PM

They could have set it in 2900 and kept the Clans away from the Inner Sphere. Star League tech would have been available for the Clans as part of second-line designs. The Inner Sphere would have got it as lostech.
This time setting would have allowed for any amount of world swapping since much of the era was never fully defined or detailed. The advance of 1 game year per three days (real-time) would have had a 3050 expansion showing up in 1-2 years. After that, time passage could have been slowed down to 1 game year per 30 days real time.
Additionally, IS vs Clan issues would have been something to worry about later. But, as always, I am willing to see what PGI will come up with.

#25 Sychodemus

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 05:40 PM

View PostAfoxi, on 02 June 2012 - 05:21 PM, said:

I know I'm a clan person and very much hated in the BT community, but I have this to say:

Assuming it's possible but very rare: If I ever score a Timberwolf salvage, first thing I'm doing is grabbing FRAPS and recording me selling it to post on these forums.

Ergo, 3049 is perfect.


While I may have certain issues with the way the Clans were/are portrayed, allow me to say that I don't have any hate toward people that like them.
As a member of the BT community and a supporter of free speech, let me also add that you should never feel obligated to apologize for voicing your opinion - provided that you do so in a polite and reasonable manner.

#26 ReddKnight

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 05:52 PM

Ok, the clan invasion began when the wolfs dragoons 1st appeared, they did there job scouting the IS , for some 15 to 20+ years, and reported on a regular basis, im not a clanner, but i do like the aspect of fighting in the battles that woke the IS up, and i would like to be able to participate in the battle that stopped the clans from moving further into the IS, so yes i like the 3049 start period, tho i will mis my lil locust cause those are very obsolite (forgive my spelling). Ive been waiting for something like this for a long time, im an old BTRP, and i do hope they bring the BattleMaster in the game.

So yay for 3049
bring on the long battles to come.

#27 Yuba Frank

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 06:03 PM

I would have liked an earlier start too. I was thinking 3025 but from reading some of the responses here I would agree with 3039. Thre reason for 3025 is I like the build up period of games. With an earlier start we would have had the 3025 mechs to play with for a bit in all the different wars up to this part of the timeline. That would have been nice. It seems that we will be playing IS mechs, capable of being altered into various variants, for about a year until the Clans show up. Then darn near every one will start playing clanners or buying "salvaged" clan kit. I think I'm going to stay with the IS...just because you fly a clan tag and drive clan mechs doesn't mean you'll be able to beat me.

#28 Alfred VonGunn

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 06:16 PM

View PostFrostiken, on 02 June 2012 - 03:41 PM, said:

To me it seems like the advancement of technology would be a good way to keep content rolling in - 3025 patch, 3030, etc. etc.

In my eyes, the 3049 seems like a very odd time because it means more or less the next big content patch has got to be the Clan Invasion, and the addition of Clan mechs represents such a huge shift in the power curve that there really isn't that much to go from there.

Basically, if they started much younger, you have a while to play. But right now, I'm probably not going to buy anything in-game because I know the Clan stuff is going to come out eventually and I'll be more likely to invest money there.



Plus, Tech Level 1 owned because it was so hilariously archaeic.



3025 might have been a bit far back, But Say start the Game off on the Day of Hanse and Mellisas Wedding.. That would have been a fun time..

I mean any war that basicly starts with these words is a Win...

"Hanse Davion married Melissa Steiner. The leader of every Successor State was there, including their aides, heirs, and other VIPs. At the wedding reception, Hanse Davion uttered one of the most quoted lines in Inner Sphere history, "My dear... I give you the Capellan Confederation."

#29 Tadakuma

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 06:24 PM

View PostMavek, on 02 June 2012 - 03:59 PM, said:

As much as I like 3025, I am glad they are starting where they are.

Sometimes, starting at the beginning is not the most expedient way to reboot a franchise. 3025 is considered level 1 because it is very simple, too simple for most of the community that will be playing this from the start. 3049 offers a certain amount of simplicity for people new to BT, but not so simple as to bore the majority of the older players.

Having the Clan invasion right around the corner also gives Clan-centric players a reason to play right away, knowing that it won't be long before they get their test tube made hands on their favorite crutch mech.


You say simple and boring, I say balanced and more challenging.

Level 2 rules don't add that much flexibility or tactical depth to the game. All they really add is some new flavours of damage dealing. In exchange for this they break a fundamental game mechanic, heat dissipation.

I don't mind level 2 games, and I will play them but I firmly believe that BT works best with the original level 1 rules and load outs.

#30 Mal

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 08:42 PM

MechWarrior: Tactics (also published by IGP) will be set in 3025.

Not quite the same gameplay as MWO is going to be.. but still looks fun.

#31 Quentin Yatoki

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 06:35 AM

Level 2 rules don't really break the game as long as you are playing as IS only. Even with the improvments offered, there are still trade offs that need to be made, i.e. XL engines taking side torso crits, Double Heat sinks, Endo Steel, Fiber ferrous taking lots of crit slots. You still can't have it all with Level 2 IS rules. It's the Clan tech that really throws everything out of wack.

That said, I think 3028 would have been a perfect time to start the game. The Fourth Succession war would mean that a lot of the potential game-breaking stratagems wouldn't be viable, and there would be no Clans to cause a massive schism in the player base. And it would be a perfect time for a dynamic and interesting player driven meta campaign.

#32 Christopher Dayson

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:13 AM

I actually look at it like this: 3049 gives them 1 RL year to get PvE into the game.

I really don't want to see Clans as PC Factions personally but I know I'll get flamed for that.

#33 Max Liao

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:21 AM

View PostAlfred VonGunn, on 02 June 2012 - 06:16 PM, said:

"My dear... I give you the Capellan Confederation."


Never ... EVER ... type that ... again ... :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
/ragequit


;)

#34 Kasiagora

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 12:03 PM

View PostKazzamo, on 02 June 2012 - 05:08 PM, said:

When it gets to dark ages I say they reskin all the mechs to look like the wizkids minis.


Ha! :lol:

I was going to say something about if they'd done a sped up timeline like one year in Btech history for every 3 months real time, but even then it would take 4 years real time to get to the was of 3039 from 3025. If it started in 3034 though you could have the war of 3039 come up at the beginning of the second year, but then it would still be at the end of the year, nearly 3 more years after that event before we saw the clans. Some games like WoW and EVE have player bases that have stuck around for so long, but many games don't. I for one would hope to see a new MW:O before we get to Dark Ages. An MW:O2 if you will (MW:O IIC?) that might take place during another timeframe such as the 4th Succession War but with mixed units to make up for the lack of mech types, or the Fall of the Star League.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 12:04 PM

I personally love that they are starting in 3049. It gives them plenty of content to put in the game later and for futur expansion. I qm a littlebiased though as 4 of my top 5 favorite mechs are Clan.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 12:48 PM

Personally I'm glad they went with 3049 it means I don't have to wait 25 years in real life to paint my Timber Wolf bright pink and die a lot.

#37 Serring

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 01:36 PM

I think the way they'll introduce clans will prob be the end of the tech tree rather than something you can just go to at the start.





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