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#1 Hagetaka

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 03:15 PM

and there is no Clan invasion because the devs twigged to what most of us longtime grognards knew for decades; that the Clans were a horrible idea, written horribly, with tabletop stuff that was horribly imbalanced. Not surprisingly, they attract horrible roleplayers and horrible powergamers.

Considering everything I've seen out of the devs so far isn't horrible at all, this gives me hope that they will break off the timeline and just continue with what made Battletech great in the first place- Space Nobles At War In Big Freaking Robots.

You're all free to your opinion of course, as wrong as most of them will be.

#2 TwoFaced

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 03:17 PM

It adds spice and flavor to a most excellent game.

#3 Yoseful Mallad

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 03:19 PM

I did not see anything wrong with the clans and their addition (or should I say re-addition) back into the universe ;) Anyway the clans, The Jihad and later Dark Age is all Canon so who knows what we will see in the future.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 03:23 PM

View PostHagetaka, on 03 June 2012 - 03:15 PM, said:

and there is no Clan invasion because the devs twigged to what most of us longtime grognards knew for decades; that the Clans were a horrible idea, written horribly, with tabletop stuff that was horribly imbalanced. Not surprisingly, they attract horrible roleplayers and horrible powergamers.

Considering everything I've seen out of the devs so far isn't horrible at all, this gives me hope that they will break off the timeline and just continue with what made Battletech great in the first place- Space Nobles At War In Big Freaking Robots.

You're all free to your opinion of course, as wrong as most of them will be.


So much piteous wailing and gnashing of teeth about the Clans.......it is to laugh!

#5 MilitantMonk

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 03:25 PM

Who are these clans you are so upset about? The true Enemy is the Davion. It's all very well documented.

#6 BaneReIIiK

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 03:25 PM

The Clan wedge made for a cool map and cooler story. Love and hate the clans.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 03:35 PM

well, i guess hatters gonna hate and whiners gonna whine

MORE PEW PEW, LESS Q_Q

#8 Dantiger

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 03:39 PM

the Clans should be PVE...
and in the end of the Clan invasion, the clan tech equipaments should cost fortunes to buy and repair

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 03:43 PM

View PostHagetaka, on 03 June 2012 - 03:15 PM, said:

and there is no Clan invasion because the devs twigged to what most of us longtime grognards knew for decades; that the Clans were a horrible idea, written horribly, with tabletop stuff that was horribly imbalanced. Not surprisingly, they attract horrible roleplayers and horrible powergamers.

Considering everything I've seen out of the devs so far isn't horrible at all, this gives me hope that they will break off the timeline and just continue with what made Battletech great in the first place- Space Nobles At War In Big Freaking Robots.

You're all free to your opinion of course, as wrong as most of them will be.

TL;DR

All I got from skimming was "THE CLANS QQ. OP QQ." Typical 3025 grognard rhetoric.

The Clans first came into play in 1992, and you people are still ******** about it 20 years later. Would you like a 55 gallon drum of Preparation H for the amount of butt hurt you feel?

Edited by Evinthal, 03 June 2012 - 03:49 PM.


#10 Harabec Weathers

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 03:43 PM

The clans are kinda neat. The concept of Batchall is rather cool. Gameplay mechanics however, they are crap. Clan Tech is stupidly unbalanced, at least Inner Sphere L2 tech has trade-offs. The Clan ERPPC, LRM20, Large Pulse Laser, and ER Medium Laser can all just go jump off a bridge. :angry: (Targeting computers too, Clan AND IS)


I also don't see why people think the Madcat looks neat. Its a passenger jet nose with big boxes, spindly arms and stupid looking chicken legs attached.

Edited by Harabec Weathers, 03 June 2012 - 03:45 PM.


#11 Aaron DeChavilier

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 03:47 PM

View PostHarabec Weathers, on 03 June 2012 - 03:43 PM, said:

The clans are kinda neat. The concept of Batchall is rather cool. Gameplay mechanics however, they are crap. Clan Tech is stupidly unbalanced, at least Inner Sphere L2 tech has trade-offs. The Clan ERPPC, LRM20, Large Pulse Laser, and ER Medium Laser can all just go jump off a bridge. :angry: (Targeting computers too, Clan AND IS)


I also don't see why people think the Madcat looks neat. Its a passenger jet nose with big boxes, spindly arms and stupid looking chicken legs attached.


and you think your HERCS look any better? you're just jealous that battlemechs got pelvis and are rocking it :P
but I do agree on the two points;
clan lore is healthy for Btech, added some fresh air.
clan tech is unhealthy for Btech, it's junkfood.

considering how FlyingDebris (MWO lead artist) will portray the Timberwolf (why do people think MadCat is better?) it's going to be awesome, and puts any Gorgon to shame.

Edited by Aaron DeChavilier, 03 June 2012 - 03:48 PM.


#12 Harabec Weathers

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 03:48 PM

They could Torso twist in EarthSiege! And hey, I'll lose the waist in return for shield generators and Magneto Fusion Assault Cannons. An Apoc could take a Mad Cat any day of the week.

Free Mars! :P

Edited by Harabec Weathers, 03 June 2012 - 03:49 PM.


#13 Grendel408

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 03:48 PM

View PostHagetaka, on 03 June 2012 - 03:15 PM, said:

You're all free to your opinion of course, as wrong as most of them will be.

Seems like you made a thread for nothing if most of our opinions will be wrong ;)

The Clans are coming... we just have a little bit before they do... and I'm sure the Devs will do the Clans well, just as they have yet to disappoint most of us so far. Give the Devs a chance and set aside your personal misgivings for the Clans and certain lore and roll with it ;)

#14 Toothman

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 03:51 PM

The clan invasion will happen. Anything beyond that is wild speculation. And the Mad cat looks like a B-17 nose with 2 refridgerator boxes on top of it. Seriously not attractive mech. It has however become iconic so I'm sure it'll be one of the first clan mechs to show.

#15 Prophet of Entropy

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 03:52 PM

adding clan stuff will be fine, give everyone access to it and there no imballance everyone will just use clan stuff. doesnt that sound fun?

#16 Thorqemada

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 03:54 PM

HERCS were cool stuff too!

I bet Clans will appear but maybe PGI can play with the Clantech conceptions.

Edited by Thorqemada, 03 June 2012 - 03:57 PM.


#17 Punisher 1

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 03:57 PM

Meh,

I just want to see evolution is tech at some point. The clan invasion makes new tech intersting and obtaining it dangerous.

I'm not a big clanner fan never was I just liked the tech.

#18 Dan Baxter

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 04:00 PM

View Postsaphon kell, on 03 June 2012 - 03:35 PM, said:

well, i guess hatters gonna hate and whiners gonna whine

MORE PEW PEW, LESS Q_Q

Yes, I am sure hatters will truly be furious with such a development.

#19 Harabec Weathers

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 04:04 PM

View PostDan Baxter, on 03 June 2012 - 04:00 PM, said:

Yes, I am sure hatters will truly be furious with such a development.


Of course, have you SEEN Clan-tech hats?

Half the weight, twice the length and not a single downside whatsoever! <_<

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 04:09 PM

View Postsaphon kell, on 03 June 2012 - 03:35 PM, said:

well, i guess hatters gonna hate and whiners gonna whine

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