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[CyclonerM]

Russ linked this article on Twitter. I think it is very interesting to read. What are your thoughts?

[Silent]

Russ exemplifies How Not to Communicate with a Community

[Heffay]

It's a great article that some people think it doesn't apply to them because they are special snowflakes.

[Roadbeer]

Silent, on 02 February 2014 - 05:42 AM, said:

Russ exemplifies How Not to Communicate with a Community

Did the article hit too close to home for ya?

[Imperius]

MW4 is nothing compared to this game... Pong probably took 2 years... Just saying it's apples and oranges.

[Heffay]

Marack Drock, on 02 February 2014 - 06:36 AM, said:

Its also an example of people who don't listen to the community.

Dude how can you explain 3 years of nothing.
I did calculations in 3 years we have gotten 20 mechs (give or take), 6 maps (night and snow version don't count as they are the same map just a different setting), 2 gamemodes, and Glass that requires windex badly. EXPLAIN THAT!!! It took 2 years for MW4 Vengeance.

We're up to 3 years now? Wow, how the imaginary rhetorical-filled time flies!

[Roadbeer]

Marack Drock, on 02 February 2014 - 06:36 AM, said:

Its also an example of people who don't listen to the community.

Just because you post in the community, doesn't mean your ideas are good or deserve implementation, they should listen to your inarticulate ramblings why?

Marack Drock, on 02 February 2014 - 06:36 AM, said:

Dude how can you explain 3 years of nothing.

Whole lotta patches in the 2 years. So I wouldn't say it was nothing...

Marack Drock, on 02 February 2014 - 06:36 AM, said:

I did calculations in 3 years we have gotten 20 mechs (give or take), 6 maps (night and snow version don't count as they are the same map just a different setting), 2 gamemodes, and Glass that requires windex badly. EXPLAIN THAT!!!

Oh, really? That's all there is? Even from a feature standpoint your list is woefully inadequate, so we'll just chalk that up to Forumite Math (Hyperbole + Opinion = Fact).

Marack Drock, on 02 February 2014 - 06:36 AM, said:

It took 2 years for MW4 Vengeance.

[Citation Needed]

[Silent]

Roadbeer, on 02 February 2014 - 06:28 AM, said:

Did the article hit too close to home for ya?

Not at all.

[BSK]

It is funny how they did not listen to the community about the modules coming overmorrow, and then he links this? After programming for 30 years I am happy I never join a big company and became what he did. There is so much wrong in this game and so much undone ..

[BFett]

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"They claim that without the fans, we are nothing"

This statement is true. If a company upsets the majority of it's player base then the company can expect to struggle with advertisement.

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We could literally decide to stop making games tomorrow and find a better paying and stable job

The problem is that PGI is NOT making a game now. They tell us that UI 2.0 will fix everything but take six or more months to get it out. When they do get it out the majority of testers dislike it. What would you say if I said a bare bones UI that is fairly straight forward could be made in a week?

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but you're definitely the reason we can make a living doing this

I suggest you poll the community about development concepts and communicate with them regularly. Unite and Drop and Town Hall meetings shouldn't have to happen if you really believe you make a living off of us.

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Chances are if you just make known that you'd love to see something different in a game, you'll either get a confirmation that they're working on it, a question about why you want what you propose or a response as to why it is not and probably will not be the way you request

Has PGI done this with Coolant Flush, Ghost Heat, or Seismic Sensors?

[BFett]

Heffay, on 02 February 2014 - 06:52 AM, said:

We're up to 3 years now? Wow, how the imaginary rhetorical-filled time flies!

2 years, 3 months, 2 days and still no Community Warfare.

Edited by BFett, 02 February 2014 - 08:58 AM.

[Heffay]

BFett, on 02 February 2014 - 08:57 AM, said:

2 years, 3 months, 2 days and still no Community Warfare.

What day are you using for that?

[BFett]

Heffay, on 02 February 2014 - 08:59 AM, said:

What day are you using for that?

The first day these forums came online which happens to also be my join date.
Oct 31, 2011

[Adridos]

BFett, on 02 February 2014 - 09:01 AM, said:

The first day these forums came online which happens to also be my join date.

I think it would be fairer to count it from 8th Dec 2011, the day Dev Blog 1 promising CW appeared: http://mwomercs.com/...munity-warfare/

When it comes to your date, I think it would be fair pushing it a little down the road to 1st October 2011, since that's when the Twitter campaign leading to the announcement of the game started.

[BFett]

Adridos, on 02 February 2014 - 09:09 AM, said:

I think it would be fairer to count it from 8th Dec 2011, the day Dev Blog 1 promising CW appeared: http://mwomercs.com/...munity-warfare/

When it comes to your date, I think it would be fair pushing it a little down the road to 1st October 2011, since that's when the Twitter campaign leading to the announcement of the game started.

Give or take a month or two. I believe you get my point.

[GoManGo]

THAT!!! It took 2 years for MW4 Vengeance. MWO is not MechWarrior it is becoming better at being a MechWarrior game but the older Mechwarrior2-Mechwarrior4 Mercenaries PC games were in many ways much better than MWO is at 3 years of progress.[redacted]

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Edited by miSs, 02 February 2014 - 10:49 AM.
inappropriate

[Silent]

Roadbeer, on 02 February 2014 - 07:09 AM, said:

[Citation Needed]

Here you go

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ActiveWin.com: How long was Microsoft Mechwarrior 4 in development? How many people were on the development team?

TJ "PAINGOD" Wagner: The main part of the development was 18-20 months. The core team was made up of 28 artists, designers and programmers.

Not even two years. Less staff than PGI. Straight from the producers mouth. Hope this helps. God bless.

Edited by Silent, 02 February 2014 - 09:46 AM.

[Silent]

It took PGI 18 months just to announce that making a user interface is hard work.

[Roadbeer]

Silent, on 02 February 2014 - 09:43 AM, said:

Here you go

Thanks, just wanted to make sure the time was right.

Marack Drock, on 02 February 2014 - 10:03 AM, said:

So a game 5 times more elaborate than MW:O (except graphics but in the day it was awesome), was made in less time than it took PGI to even give the Clan mechs a deadline.

Ummm, how do you figure. 24 scripted missions with a rudimentary AI does not a complex game make. Plus it's a single player game with Multi-player tacked on. You don't have to worry about things like weapon balancing, netcode, Hit reg, ad infinitium

Marack Drock, on 02 February 2014 - 10:03 AM, said:

PGI if you want to make a great game you must take both the good and bad criticism or it will fail.

On this we completely agree, however, criticism does not include CAPSLK and a bunch of !!!! that many of the mouthbreathers are famous for.

Silent, on 02 February 2014 - 10:06 AM, said:

It took PGI 18 months just to announce that making a user interface is hard work.

Lulz, too true.

[Thoummim]

Well if they did a good job we wouldnt have to complain in the first place.