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#1 _Comrade_

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 05:52 PM

So im putting in applications to some of the other clans and still looking to some other clans and i am playing on Marik teamspeak as well for the time being. Not really interested in the four invading clans. I am buying my omnimech with my tax rebate so i should be official trohkin by next week and should be doing trials then with my fellow sibko

My one big concern is when CW comes about, PGI hasn't really been good on delivering the details and rather then having an immense open world environment where we can fight any other banner...it seems to be that unless i miss a dev podcast, that all clanners will be fighting under one of the four invading clans. So how are the smaller clans such as Steel Viper, Nova Cat, Diamond Shark, Cloud Serprent, Hells Horse. Snow Raven, ETC handle CW when they don't have their faction to choose from? I am guessing that we want those loyality and faction points that come from doing missions but if we don't get to choose our faction does that mean that Steel Viper will have to label themselves Jade Falcon and Nova Cat as Smoke Jag...which would really suck given that the Cats and Jags hate each other.

#2 AUSSIETROOPER4

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 09:41 PM

What makes you think that clans can even drop together.
i think outside of having your own 12 dropping inner sphere and clan will drop all mixed up.

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 10:21 PM

I posted this on another thread but couldn't find it to link but in short.

All 34 Khans are present in the Clan Invasion zone "observing" proceedings up until Leo's death.

Many Khans and their body guards partake in drops with other Clans.

Diamond Shark history (Invading Clans source book) tells us they joined the Jade Falcons on Last Chance during the periphary and "...both Diamond Shark Khans participated in battles for seven worlds." pg 140 during the 4th wave.

There is no real reason this could not be assumed to hold true for any friendly relation Clans. So Coyotes or Scorpians might drop with their Wolf Buddies. Snow Ravens with the Flacons or the Bears. Blood Spirits maybe with the Jags (cause they don't like anyone except the Il Khan maybe?)

In short, any pseudo sci fi bs will work. All Clans are there and we can assume that the players are the attached 'escort' for the Khan and Sa Khan.

As long as they don't claim the planet, they can drop with the implied consent of the big 4 Clan of their choice, from a canon basis anyway.

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 10:22 PM

All I can say is have faith in pgi. Honestly I feel like if anything they will at least put in the reserve clans also. Maybe not things like clans that weren't around in the time of the invasion. But I'm sure they will implement a tag for all of the ones that exist in 3050. and in the future they will surely fill the others in [ I mean really it wouldn't be hard for them to add in some code for them I'm sure. If anything bug Pgi when you don't get your faction.

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Posted 30 March 2014 - 03:22 AM

I totally understand your concern but i have to say, since this game is focused on the invasion it would be logical to include only the four invading Clans (first), then, later, the three reserve Clans, but not the others. This does not mean i would not like to have a separated "Clan Homeworlds" CW..

Edited by CyclonerM, 30 March 2014 - 11:30 AM.


#6 Lukoi Banacek

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Posted 30 March 2014 - 09:16 AM

View PostCyclonerM, on 30 March 2014 - 03:22 AM, said:

I totally understand your concern but i have to say, since this game is focused on the invasion it would be logical to include only the four invading Clans (first), then, later, the two reserve Clans, but not the others. This does not mean i would not like to have a separated "Clan Homeworlds" CW..


7 invaders total, when you include the reserve. Just fyi.

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Posted 30 March 2014 - 09:46 AM

View PostLukoi, on 30 March 2014 - 09:16 AM, said:


7 invaders total, when you include the reserve. Just fyi.


Ultimately yes, but not initially.

Edited to add the following link...

http://www.sarna.net...i/Clan_Invasion

Edited by Rip Snorgan, 30 March 2014 - 09:52 AM.


#8 Davers

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Posted 30 March 2014 - 10:33 AM

I find it odd that they don't have any Clan forum tags, not even a generic catch all 'Clan' tag.

#9 Lukoi Banacek

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Posted 30 March 2014 - 10:33 AM

View PostRip Snorgan, on 30 March 2014 - 09:46 AM, said:


Ultimately yes, but not initially.

Edited to add the following link...

http://www.sarna.net...i/Clan_Invasion



Yes Rip I understand not initially. I was correcting the mention of SIX invader clans to reflect the correct number of SEVEN.

#10 CyclonerM

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Posted 30 March 2014 - 11:30 AM

View PostLukoi, on 30 March 2014 - 10:33 AM, said:



Yes Rip I understand not initially. I was correcting the mention of SIX invader clans to reflect the correct number of SEVEN.

Whoops. Steel Viper, Nova Cat and Diamond Shark, 1+1+1 = 3, 4+3=7. Fixed!

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Posted 30 March 2014 - 11:32 AM

View Post116th NorskaFresh, on 29 March 2014 - 09:41 PM, said:

What makes you think that clans can even drop together.
i think outside of having your own 12 dropping inner sphere and clan will drop all mixed up.

private matches.

#12 Lukoi Banacek

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Posted 30 March 2014 - 12:17 PM

View PostCyclonerM, on 30 March 2014 - 11:30 AM, said:

Whoops. Steel Viper, Nova Cat and Diamond Shark, 1+1+1 = 3, 4+3=7. Fixed!


Your a huge fan of Clan Lore Cyclone, so no disrespect intended by my mentioning that btw :)

#13 CyclonerM

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Posted 30 March 2014 - 01:34 PM

View PostLukoi, on 30 March 2014 - 12:17 PM, said:


Your a huge fan of Clan Lore Cyclone, so no disrespect intended by my mentioning that btw :unsure:

I know, do not worry :)
And yes, is it so easy to see? ;)

Btw, it was just a Clan slipping out of my mind..

Edited by CyclonerM, 30 March 2014 - 01:34 PM.


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Posted 31 March 2014 - 05:08 PM

View PostGrimwill, on 29 March 2014 - 05:52 PM, said:

Cloud Serprent,


You meant to state "Clan Cloud Cobra"

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Edited by Gremlich Johns, 31 March 2014 - 05:09 PM.


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Posted 01 April 2014 - 11:38 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if we see a set up similar to the IS side of things, The way they have factions and lonewolves that will fill in as member of whatever faction needs a spare pilot at the time. My bet is we get a general 'Clansman' that works the same way for the clans. In most cases you would have all members of the same Clan dropping together, but the gaps would get filled in by 'unaffiliated' or 'general' Clan Warriors. I would expect each clan that got it's own Subforum to act as a faction of it's own and the rest of us to be in the general mix the same way the forums here are set up.

That is is they split the clans into separate factions/teams for the purpose of community warfare, I suppose they could throw them all together...

They could split them all out, but I just don't see that happening, there would be FAR more choices of which Clan faction you could represent than IS factions in that case and I feel that could be unbalancing.

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 12:26 PM

That sig. Right in the memory bank.

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 01:16 PM

View PostKreisel, on 01 April 2014 - 11:38 AM, said:

I wouldn't be surprised if we see a set up similar to the IS side of things, The way they have factions and lonewolves that will fill in as member of whatever faction needs a spare pilot at the time. My bet is we get a general 'Clansman' that works the same way for the clans. In most cases you would have all members of the same Clan dropping together, but the gaps would get filled in by 'unaffiliated' or 'general' Clan Warriors. I would expect each clan that got it's own Subforum to act as a faction of it's own and the rest of us to be in the general mix the same way the forums here are set up.

That is is they split the clans into separate factions/teams for the purpose of community warfare, I suppose they could throw them all together...

They could split them all out, but I just don't see that happening, there would be FAR more choices of which Clan faction you could represent than IS factions in that case and I feel that could be unbalancing.


The problem is that except for dark caste bandits there are no lone warriors in the Clans. And i do not see bandits riding toward the Inner Sphere..

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Posted 03 April 2014 - 02:32 PM

For any player wishing to play as Clan pilot but with no affiliations in recognised Clan soceity you can consider the Dark Born as an option.

The Dark Born is a community group set up to recognise individuals outside of Clan soceity as lone wolves or mercenaries and are made up of miscreants of the various clans in various guises as part of the Clan Dark Caste.

The idea of the Dark Born having a more Mercantile presence for Community Warfare a possibility in the future as these things develop.

Note as a member of the Dark Caste you will be treated with disdain or as Dezgra by the Clans themselves.

If this way of Clan life appeals to you or just interested then here is a link to the Dark Born Site.

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Posted 03 April 2014 - 02:42 PM

I was thinking PGI would just add one banner and all clans would fall under that banner. Hopefully it would be:

http://punakettu.dev...-Logo-115680961

PGI hasn't exactly stuck to cannon, as we don't have a banner for the Federated Commonwealth......

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Posted 03 April 2014 - 02:48 PM

View PostMoenrg, on 03 April 2014 - 02:42 PM, said:

I was thinking PGI would just add one banner and all clans would fall under that banner. Hopefully it would be:

http://punakettu.dev...-Logo-115680961

PGI hasn't exactly stuck to cannon, as we don't have a banner for the Federated Commonwealth......


Thats the Star League icon. A better symbol for the Clans is the Clan Dagger Star:


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However for factional interests like the IS Houses each Clan would ideally be recognised as their own faction for any potential loyality interests in CW.





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