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[Noesis]

"Those who break faith with the unity shall go down into darkness"

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The Dark Born is a representative community site to recognise Clan pilots who wish to play as members of the Dark Caste. It has no official recognitions with any of the Clans at present and to best understand how they are represented in MWO they are effectively at present best understood as Lone Wolves (though could be Mercs) as a part of the Clan caste system. As such as independants able to operate with a great amount of flexibility with the upcoming community warfare operations.

The Dark Caste represents the Clan miscreants who work as Mercenaries or operate as Bandits who have no allegiances with any organisation. (Though could be known to have nefarious if secret ties with Clan Burrock).

Please note that if wishing to play as a nefarious character from Clan Lore, this community will be "adult" in terms of maturity but it will still be expectant that Community members will treat each other with the best respect possible. Poor behaviour or miss-treatment of other members could result in expulsion.

Likewise other than reasonable character role play in relations to the Clans or other player organisations it is expectant the players of this community will act with some maturity in respecting these differences from Lore as fictional content. As such being able to seperate the RP from RL issues will be important so as to not create player conflicts in the community. This includes any unwarrented behaviour in game that is not associated with reasonable role playing content attributable to playing in character as a member of the Clan Dark Caste.

Dependant on how MWO Community warfare develops it may be that the Dark Born could develop into a Mercenary Corp with a form of organised leadership and a more official presence given sufficient capabilities, representation and interests to do so from the membership. However the idea would be to continue to support anyone wishing to continue to represent themselves as an independant in the Clan Dark Caste were this to happen.

The forum can be found here: http://mwodarkborn.enjin.com/home and details for the TS3 VOIP Server can be found on the site.

USPs of the Dark Born:

• A two branched pathway with its structure, "The silk", that accommodates both the casual player and more organised team play.
  
• Both IS and Clan tech accommodated.
  
• Alternative Clan trial system that incorporates more social considerations.
  
• Orientation programme being currently tested to help prepare and train pilots for the Dark Born life. Both Veterans and newer players
  
• RIG system that helps pilots define builds and play various Mech roles to unified unit standards without prescribing Mech use for the organised teams.
  
• Codex system to record extra social, preference and pilots stats data.
  
• A loyalty and internal bartering system with chits. Which can allow with the accumulation of efforts and contributions to unit interests culminating in Ultimate Game Cards. It also allows for an internal social currency.
  
• Future further specialised training as ongoing content.

Consider the Dark Side we have more than just cookies.

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Edited by Noesis, 19 May 2014 - 08:37 AM.

[Jaroth Corbett]

[_Comrade_]

Interesting for roleplaying like the rebels who revolted against Kerensky in operation klondike i suppose. But you know that when you face a clan we will not honor zellbrigen as a future warrior of clan coyote i certainly won't, because he don't have to fight honorable against an honor-less caste. So don't be surprise if you fight against a clan that decides to bring 12 assault mechs to fight you

[Will9761]

I like it, it's like a site for Lone Wolves. As for the logo, it looks awsome, but you should add the Black Widow Spider(or any skinny spider) from Clan Widowmaker as a background layer and silhoutte to your logo since The Black Widow is commonly associated with the Bandit Caste.

Edited by Will9761, 01 April 2014 - 02:54 PM.

[_Comrade_]

Will9761, on 01 April 2014 - 02:29 PM, said:

I like it, it's like a site for Lone Wolves. As for the logo, it looks awsome, but you should add the Black Widow Spider(or any skinny spider) from Clan Widowmaker as a backgroun layer and silhoutte to your logo since The Black Widow is commonly associated with the Bandit Caste.

Yes that would be cool. Agreed,

[Craig Steele]

Will9761, on 01 April 2014 - 02:29 PM, said:

I like it, it's like a site for Lone Wolves. As for the logo, it looks awsome, but you should add the Black Widow Spider(or any skinny spider) from Clan Widowmaker as a background layer and silhoutte to your logo since The Black Widow is commonly associated with the Bandit Caste.

What do you mean here?

[Lukoi Banacek]

He means he does not know the lore that well yet. It is a routine way for discussion to get started around here

[Edward Mattlov]

You are creating a dezgra unit and will be treated as such by all honorable clan warriors.

[Lukoi Banacek]

Noessis were you in a CNC or CGB unit recently?

[Lucky Moniker]

Lukoi, on 01 April 2014 - 04:16 PM, said:

Noessis were you in a CNC or CGB unit recently?

CNC

[Will9761]

Lukoi, on 01 April 2014 - 03:50 PM, said:

He means he does not know the lore that well yet. It is a routine way for discussion to get started around here

What are you talking about? I read the history of Clan Lore.

Craig Steele, on 01 April 2014 - 03:35 PM, said:

What do you mean here?

After the death of Nicolas Kerensky, the Wolf Clan sought to absorb every single member of Clan Widowmaker. The Widowmakers used every tactic to last against the Wolf Clan. But thanks to the help of Clan Goliath Scorpion's Ethan Moreau and Cyrus Elam, they failed. In the aftermath Clan Widowmaker was absorbed into Clan Wolf. The Widowmakers lived on as various legacies:

Bloodnames:
The Crusaders Wolves reactivated the fallen Clan's Bloodnames post-Refusal War, with the exception of the Vordermark and Karrige Bloodnames; which were tainted due to their actions.

Symbol:
Even Natasha Kerensky used Black Widow Spider logo for her Wolf Spider Battalion during the formation of the Wolf's Dragoons. The Exiled Wolves' unit the 13th Wolf Guard used the Black Widow Spider as well. The Black Widow became a favorite symbol to represent the Bandit Caste, due to the infamy and corruption which describes their similarity to the Widowmakers.

So in short, if you think of the Bandit Caste, think of this symbol:

Edited by Will9761, 01 April 2014 - 05:18 PM.

[Noesis]

CNC.

I have retained freindly player links with them aswell as potential future "buisness" contacts. Diplomatic relations are remaining open for the potential future Mercenary elements should those ambitions come to fruition. Though they do understand the Lore relationship with the Dark Caste in Clan soceity from that RP perspective.

It is still early days of course in establishing the "Dark Born" and I have no real expectations at the present time other than providing an RP opportunity for this element of the Clan soceity to have some token place in MWO even if it is a Rag Tag group of lone wolf casuals. Having a forum and VOIP to come together as that collective element as a mercenary arm of the Dark Caste soceity and also seeing as it was simply something that seemed to be missing in the game play opportunities for MWO pilots, I then felt compelled to explore it as an option, thus the Birth of the Dark Born.

I'm also happy to see that CJF have labelled this group as Dezgra, which is an understandable reaction to what this unit represents made from elements of the Clan Dark Caste and have no problems with this aspect of RP being relevant to game play. I will try to maintain a sensible level of humour about such things.

[Edward Mattlov]

Noesis, on 01 April 2014 - 04:58 PM, said:

CNC.

I have retained freindly player links with them aswell as potential future "buisness" contacts. Diplomatic relations are remaining open for the potential future Mercenary elements should those ambitions come to fruition. Though they do understand the Lore relationship with the Dark Caste in Clan soceity from that RP perspective.

It is still early days of course in establishing the "Dark Born" and I have no real expectations at the present time other than providing an RP opportunity for this element of the Clan soceity to have some token place in MWO even if it is a Rag Tag group of lone wolf casuals. Having a forum and VOIP to come together as that collective element as a mercenary arm of the Dark Caste soceity and also seeing as it was simply something that seemed to be missing in the game play opportunities for MWO pilots, I then felt compelled to explore it as an option, thus the Birth of the Dark Born.

I'm also happy to see that CJF have labelled this group as Dezgra, which is an understandable reaction to what this unit represents made from elements of the Clan Dark Caste and have no problems with this aspect of RP being relevant to game play. I will try to maintain a sensible level of humour about such things.

I speak as a warrior of Clan Jade Falcon, but I do not presume to speak for all members of the clan.

[Craig Steele]

Will9761, on 01 April 2014 - 04:51 PM, said:

What are you talking about? I read the history of Clan Lore.


After the death of Nicolas Kerensky, the Wolf Clan sought to absorb every single member of Clan Widowmaker. The Widowmakers used every tactic to last against the Wolf Clan. But thanks to the help of Clan Goliath Scorpion's Ethan Moreau, they failed. In the aftermath Clan Widowmaker was absorbed into Clan Wolf. The Widowmakers lived on as various legacies:

Bloodnames:
The Crusaders Wolves reactivated the fallen Clan's Bloodnames post-Refusal War, with the exception of the Vordermark and Karrige Bloodnames; which were tainted due to their actions.

Symbol:
Even Natasha Kerensky used Black Widow Spider logo for her Wolf Spider Battalion during the formation of the Wolf's Dragoons. The Exiled Wolves' unit the 13th Wolf Guard used the Black Widow Spider as well. The Clans chose the Black Widow as symbol to represent the Bandit Caste, due to the infamy and corruption which describes their similarity to the Widowmakers.

So in short, if you think of the Bandit Caste, think of this symbol:

I'd be interested in your source for this.

AFAIK the 'Clans' have never accorded any honour of the Dark Caste let alone assign them a symbol.

And as for Widownmaker, well my understanding is that second time around Clan Wolf got it right, no Widowmaker warriors survived so there is no one going into the Dark Caste with that symbol affiliation. They did keep and use the genetic material, but not as mommy's

Where is this symbol for the Dark Caste coming from?

[Noesis]

Edward Mattlov, on 01 April 2014 - 05:05 PM, said:

I speak as a warrior of Clan Jade Falcon, but I do not presume to speak for all members of the clan.

Understood, though it would not have been a problem from an RP standpoint.

In fact "I R dissapoint" that this wasn't the case even if I did assume it to be such.

[Craig Steele]

Noesis, on 01 April 2014 - 04:58 PM, said:

what this unit represents made from elements of the Clan Dark Caste and have no problems with this aspect of RP being relevant to game play. I will try to maintain a sensible level of humour about such things.

+1

[Will9761]

Craig Steele, on 01 April 2014 - 05:09 PM, said:

I'd be interested in your source for this.

AFAIK the 'Clans' have never accorded any honour of the Dark Caste let alone assign them a symbol.

And as for Widownmaker, well my understanding is that second time around Clan Wolf got it right, no Widowmaker warriors survived so there is no one going into the Dark Caste with that symbol affiliation. They did keep and use the genetic material, but not as mommy's

Where is this symbol for the Dark Caste coming from?

It is not an honoring, but it is used as more of a sign of infamy. But Bandits Caste members favored the logo due to the Widowmaker's reputation.

[Lukoi Banacek]

Will9761, on 01 April 2014 - 05:17 PM, said:

It is not an honoring, but it is used as more of a sign of infamy. But Bandits Caste members favored the logo due to the Widowmaker's reputation.

What's your source. That's what he asked.

Noesis! Good luck with the new gig man.

[Pariah Devalis]

As a group of players, we can respect the effort to make a like minded group of people. However, officially, Clan Nova Cat does not have any ties with The Dark Born. We are not allies. They can exist, as we have no right to dictate a group of players should or should not exist. However, we cannot ally ourselves with a group that is dezgra by nature.

[Noesis]

I created the logo as a black clan symbol as a simple recognition of the Dark Caste.

The inverted pyramid is an acient symbol representing man or "individualism" as opposed to organisation. e.g. the opposite of the illuminati pyramid which is more associated with the embodiment of organised political power or social control.

The idea of keeping the symbol simple and clean also helpful to dissolve any associative political ties with lore or the history of relations with various Clans. If anything Clan Burrock is probably the most recognised clan to have associative ties with elements of the Dark Caste from Lore even if relations with many of the the Clans are variable and even the Dark Caste reputed to have insurgents or secret operatives working within the Clan structure itself being incognito in small numbers.

The majority of the Dark Caste then more or less associated as Bandits in Clan space or further into the Deep periphery.

With other Merc units also using the spider symbol in a more deliberate form like the Wolf Spiders as part of the Wolf Dragoons as Mercs and other units, I feel it would be helpful to retain neutrality to some of these interests. Certainly this could confuse ties with the Dragoons and Clan Wolf as a result given the current timeline.

As a result it seems more sensible to retain a more "neutral" representation of the Dark Caste with the above symbol as designed to ensure a wider scope of Merc interests from the Clan Dark Caste soceity can be encompassed. Thus intentionally I want to avoid being associated with any specific Clan or interest.

Though I have to admit I may have to work a web or some arachnid reference into the group somewhere just to keep things "suitably flavoured".

Edited by Noesis, 01 April 2014 - 06:07 PM.