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[Ardney]

I created an alt account some time after the cadet bonus was implemented to see how the new player experience was.

Spoiler

It sucks.

[OneEyed Jack]

Bishop Steiner, on 21 April 2014 - 06:08 PM, said:

fear of epeen performance failure. It's kinda like viagra for the Epeen. Test on fake account, then run what works on "real" account. Though if stats really matter that much, they should just listen to you guys and run Meta. Might slightly improve epeen performance.

At least that is what the Meta Overlords must assume, amirite?

To be fair, meta does shift over time, but in order for that to happen some brave soul has to try something new for all the band-wagoneers to eventually follow.

[Alaskan Nobody]

aniviron, on 21 April 2014 - 06:12 PM, said:

I'd say promising a huge feature in 90 days without having started on it constitutes lying;

I would say promising a huge feature in 90 days knowing you cannot do it constitutes lying - not what you said.

So I say again - using a sane definition of proof, do you have any?

[Levi Porphyrogenitus]

I have an alt account for one real reason: so I can play with certain of my friends and relatives without dragging the group's average Elo too high. I only play it with those certain people, and run my main for solo PUGs and for more serious group play.

[Alaskan Nobody]

aniviron, on 21 April 2014 - 06:35 PM, said:

I am completely ignoring what you posted, and then accusing you of doing the same - see what a wonderful hypocrite I am?

Suuuure

aniviron, on 21 April 2014 - 06:35 PM, said:

Bryan and Russ have been very well aware that there is no way they are going to hit the deadline

Still waiting on the proof.

And no - magic psychic "THEY KNEW OK!" doesn't count.

aniviron, on 21 April 2014 - 06:35 PM, said:

I'm ASSuming you're not reading by this point in the post too

Funny how that works isn't it.




I gave my proof I was reading what you said - I even covered the point you claim I didn't read (In the same post you claim I skipped it in - or didn't you read THAT?)- still waiting on the proof of your claims though.

NOTE: I am not saying I disagree - but you are making strong accusations, with, so far, no proof.

Edited by Shar Wolf, 21 April 2014 - 06:47 PM.

[Mycrus]

aniviron, on 21 April 2014 - 06:12 PM, said:

I'd say promising a huge feature in 90 days without having started on it constitutes lying; you're saying that you will have something soon while knowing you haven't started on it. You could say that there was just a gross inability to calculate workload going on there, and it wasn't an intentional lie, and I'd buy that- the first time CW was coming in 90 days, anyway. Every time it has been subsequently promised after that, Bryan and Russ have been very well aware that there is no way they are going to hit the deadline, and said it anyway. To say that they were unaware of their inability to hit the deadline implies a level of intelligence so low that they would have trouble with the realities of daily life, an unlikely situation given their status as owners and operators of a company.

My take is it really only takes 90 days for them to build CW if they focused their resources on building it.

They did not focus their resources on it because they didn't want to build something they can't readily monetize and they were worried about the license...

The other alternative is they are just grossly incompetent.

The final logical alternative is they just plain lied to us to milk us for more money.

If you look at it in this light you will realize why they chose to develop clan packs first

[El Bandito]

Because I want to drop Artillery Strike onto my teammates at spawn. Just once. And not to lose my main account.

Edited by El Bandito, 21 April 2014 - 07:47 PM.

[Alaskan Nobody]

Mycrus, on 21 April 2014 - 07:41 PM, said:

My take is it really only takes 90 days for them to build CW if they focused their resources on building it.

They did not focus their resources on it because they didn't want to build something they can't readily monetize and they were worried about the license...

Third argument (that you completely failed to mention)
They didn't focus on it because they were told to do something else (remember, they have two other companies that they are taking orders from)

Fourth argument - they didn't focus on it because other priorities (turns out the really actually had a very good reason to add 3PV)

aniviron, on 21 April 2014 - 08:13 PM, said:

Ahhh, you're just being pedantic, I see.

No worse than you:

"SEE THEY LIED"

"WHERES THE PROOF"

"THIS BULLSHIT MEANINGLESS DEFINITION"

aniviron, on 21 April 2014 - 08:13 PM, said:

See how that works? You can't PROVE that I don't have a thought reading machine. Go ahead, do it. PROVE it with the same level of certainty that you are holding me to here.

As the initial accuser it is you that is in the position to provide proof - not me.

I have done nothing more than ask for proof - and you have yet to give it.

At this point I have this to say.

When someone makes an accusation, that they either cannot or will not back up, they are either.
1) Stupid
2) Hypocritical
3) Trolling

So which is it?
Welcome to the ignore list - I will give you the benefit of the doubt (something you seem unwilling to give PGI, IGP, or anyone else) and assume that rather than being as outright evil as you seem to think they are, you are just stupid.

[Craig Steele]

Bishop Steiner, on 21 April 2014 - 02:29 PM, said:

Cuz I'm an old school RPGer.


My Alt Account, (which is super secret, so there!) is a Tikonovian ex-pat who had migrated to the FRR, and became a MechWarrior in their Military. Was taken by Clan GhostBear as a bondsman, and eventually became a Warrior Again. That Account I will run Clan Tech with when I am in the mood.

I was actually thinking of doing the exact same thing but my friends mocked me for being to hard core

[Monsoon]

I'm traditionally an RPGer, even when I first was introduced to battletech, I was very interested in the Mechwarrior RPG book (and one reason why I really loved the Crescent Hawk video game.)

The trick with MWO is that, as you see I'm aligned with Davion. But I also have an account so that when clans arrive, I can also on occasion play as a clanner.

MWO doesn't have a built-in mechanic for multi-role-playing. So unlike any MMO where I can create new characters to play different sides (ie. SWTOR: Sith vs Jedi), I've had to make due with accounts to make up for this.

This is my main, I post on the forums with this account, I spend real money only on this account, but my alternate is still played to gather CBills for when I want to start spending them on mech's relevant to that account. But yes, I still jump on it for the freebies like free mechs and mech bay events.

Ideally, I'd love it if Monsoon was my Account name, but then I could create Character names within that account and assign an allegiance to that character. PGI would then of course have to come up with a decision if items bought were account-wide (like paints or camo) or Character only (Hero mech), but it would be great for any RPGer out there that does the same thing I do.

Edited by Monsoon, 21 April 2014 - 08:48 PM.

[Mycrus]

Shar Wolf, on 21 April 2014 - 08:21 PM, said:

Third argument (that you completely failed to mention)
They didn't focus on it because they were told to do something else (remember, they have two other companies that they are taking orders from)

Fourth argument - they didn't focus on it because other priorities (turns out the really actually had a very good reason to add 3PV)


No worse than you:

"SEE THEY LIED"

"WHERES THE PROOF"

"THIS BULLSHIT MEANINGLESS DEFINITION"

As the initial accuser it is you that is in the position to provide proof - not me.

I have done nothing more than ask for proof - and you have yet to give it.

At this point I have this to say.

When someone makes an accusation, that they either cannot or will not back up, they are either.
1) Stupid
2) Hypocritical
3) Trolling

So which is it?
Welcome to the ignore list - I will give you the benefit of the doubt (something you seem unwilling to give PGI, IGP, or anyone else) and assume that rather than being as outright evil as you seem to think they are, you are just stupid.

Falls under incompetence... failing to understand their market and their game... whether this is igp or pgi driven it boils down to incompetence... because windows 8.

[Monsoon]

Craig Steele, on 21 April 2014 - 08:24 PM, said:

I was actually thinking of doing the exact same thing but my friends mocked me for being too hard core

Do it, don't let your friends dictate your behavior, feel the RPGer in you swell!

[Alaskan Nobody]

Mycrus, on 21 April 2014 - 08:53 PM, said:

Falls under incompetence... failing to understand their market and their game... whether this is igp or pgi driven it boils down to incompetence... because windows 8.

Because having someone else (who owns what you are working on - see point 3) come in and say "do this instead" counts as you being incompetent?
Totally makes sense to blame you for your bosses mistakes then.

[Mycrus]

Shar Wolf, on 21 April 2014 - 09:07 PM, said:

Because having someone else (who owns what you are working on - see point 3) come in and say "do this instead" counts as you being incompetent?
Totally makes sense to blame you for your bosses mistakes then.

When the rich wage wars it's the poor who dies.

[Alaskan Nobody]

Mycrus, on 21 April 2014 - 09:08 PM, said:

When the rich wage wars it's the poor who dies.

Rather off topic to whether or not they lied though (which is what I was discussing when you started quoting me)

[Craig Steele]

Mycrus, on 21 April 2014 - 09:08 PM, said:

When the rich wage wars it's the poor who dies.

What do you care Mycrus, you're the rich high power finance dude making gazillions off the uneducated masses?

[Deathlike]

aniviron, on 21 April 2014 - 08:13 PM, said:

Ahhh, you're just being pedantic, I see.

No, then I can never prove anything, but then again, by the definitions you're using, nobody can ever prove anyone is lying. Maybe the guy who stole from that store really did think everything was free that day! Maybe he didn't know that shooting someone would kill them or that killing was wrong! Maybe I do have proof of this because I built a thought reading machine and used it to read Bryan's mind!

See how that works? You can't PROVE that I don't have a thought reading machine. Go ahead, do it. PROVE it with the same level of certainty that you are holding me to here.

The fact of the matter is that nobody can ever prove what one human is thinking. It's literally not possible. Can't be done, not how you are asking me. You want proof, even bolding the word. So, what would constitute proof of this fact? What can I do for you that would prove it? Is it possible? The inductive argument that follows in my previous post narrows it down to two possibilities:

1. CW is developed during the first timeline, when Bryan and Russ are claiming it is being developed. Bryan and Russ have made numerous games before, and are thus competent enough to estimate project schedules. Because they are developing CW and have started work on it, they should be roughly aware of how long it will take to develop. Thus, they know how long it will take, and have chosen to lie about this fact during the next series of timelines, after the first deadline is missed.

2. CW is not being developed during the first timeline. Bryan and Russ are straight up lying, as they said it would take 90 days for CW to be complete, but they know CW will not be complete because it is not being worked on.

Just wait for Chronojam to unleash the "position at the time" timeline. Then, people can "see for themselves".

[Evil Ed]

Because I wanted to try the new player experience. Don't think it's as bad as everyone says, but a very different game when the mechs have no efficiencies unlocked, no modules and the elo is lower.

[Craig Steele]

Davers, on 21 April 2014 - 04:18 PM, said:

Roadbeer, Sandpit, Dazur, and Aym are all my alt accounts.

Not Randy?

[Mycrus]

Shar Wolf, on 21 April 2014 - 09:10 PM, said:

Rather off topic to whether or not they lied though (which is what I was discussing when you started quoting me)

Craig Steele, on 21 April 2014 - 09:11 PM, said:

What do you care Mycrus, you're the rich high power finance dude making gazillions off the uneducated masses?

you are confusing me with http://mwomercs.com/.../81395-mystere/

Edited by Mycrus, 22 April 2014 - 05:20 AM.