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[MiniChiken]

Rayzor, on 20 June 2012 - 07:08 AM, said:

But we will also be able to support the game later after launch, just because people don't want to spend their money now doesn't mean they wont later.

I also doubt that this is the only time Piranha will have a deal like this.

Yea probably not, STO re-released the lifetime subscription after 2 years of the game being subscription based.

[FroBanger]

That is Exactly it you CANNOT be a fan of the Mechwarrior tittle and NOT have a founder tag. You keep saying you can but YOU CAN't if you can't spend 60 dollars to show microsoft that their idea that Battle Robot simulators were dead is a terrrible idea then you are no fun.

And saying someone can't afford 60 dollars .. This game has been DEAD for 10 years. DEAD. 60 dollars helps ressurect a game we all thought we would never be playing again and shows the Big Companies that mechwarrior is here to stay. And as far as lisenses agreements concerns go. Yes they did have to go F2P microsofts Lisenses only lets Pirhana port this game to PC and to X-box it cannot port to any other non microsoft sytems.

in a month and a half if you cannot save up 60 dollars to help keep this game alive you are no fan you are a gamer who thinks mechwarrior is COOL. Elitist? No thats not elitist when Microsoft said they would not be making any More Mechwarrior because it wasnt a "profitable venture" that true fans wept openly. Now we have a chance to resurect this game with money. Just imagine all the money you have spent on activision and Microsofts Mechwarriors's Mechwarrior 2-4 The expansions. Each one of those was at least 60 dollars. expecept hte clan and innner sphere pack.

It is not elitist in the least to think that Legendary founders are bigger fans we.. ok that is.. But it is NOT elitist to say that founders are bigger fans then non founders. If you love this game and never want it to end up in the hands of activision who let the lisense slip or Microsoft who did a cost vs implementation theory and decided it was not worth it then pay the 60 bucks.

[B B Wolfe]

Yes, if someone doesn't have the money to spend on something they love, it is clearly because they are unworthy. What?


I'll have you know that the only reason I have a legendary pack is because a hospital I'd been laid up in a year ago suddenly decided that the absurd amount of money they demanded I pay them was slightly less sane than they'd prefer. Magically appearing $850 checks for the win.

Edited by B B Wolfe, 20 June 2012 - 07:12 AM.

[Tano]

I think the OP is very proud of his shiney new tag, just went the completely wrong way about showing it around.

[hydrix]

People can even be big fans of MW and not even play this game in their whole life... someone who didnt play MW 3 and did play 2 and 4, is also not disqualified...

so please . try to show off a bit less hehe. Income, location, time, age, just to name a few reasons why someone may not invest or sponsor at this time.

[Vasces Diablo]

Or maybe I just don't have $60 lying around this very moment and know that I have at least a month before I need it.

[Fynn]

well, seeing as i wont have the cash for a few weeks, does that make a non MW fan? plus when i do get the cash i need to make the choice of either a elite founders pack, or a new motherboard from my Quad core PC, so i can make sure i play the game, so if i go the motherboard route in order to play the game, does that make me less of fan than you????

ive played MW2,MW3 and MW4 as well TT, damm, does that also mean im not a fan?????

[ice trey]

Metatron, on 20 June 2012 - 07:03 AM, said:

Give me Battletech and Earthdawn.
Real thinking mans combat and real fantasy.

RIP

Wait... I know for a fact that Battletech tabletop is alive and well. I was just demoing it at Origins not a month ago.

As for Earthdawn, I thought some company picked it up and is publishing it.

[Valhakar]

FroBanger, on 20 June 2012 - 06:36 AM, said:

10 Years ago Microsofty decided that the age of Simulators was gone no more mechwarrior.

Pirhana disagree's but due to the licensing restrictions microsoft put on the license aquisition F2P was the only way they could go.

So sure pirhana isnt as big as microsoft or activision but what that 60-120 dollars is buying you is the the statement "Dear Microsoft Mechwarrior, (Robot Battle Simulators) Will never die"

So you cannot say you are a fan of Mechwarrior and NOT have a founders tag. if this was real life we could vote and force computer companies to make games we wan't since this isnt goverment you vote with your dollars, vote to keep Mechwarrior alive buy a founders pack. As far as people saying its a money grab. This is a software COMPANY.. money makes things happen.

I gladly paid 120 Dollars just to get my name in the credits and in 10 years time if people are still playing mechwarrior it will be thanks to EVERY single founder that voted with their dollars to tell big software companies that NO Mechwarrior will NEVER BECOME Obsolete EVER.

I love bashing the "Internet should be free" hippies as much as the next "evil corporate monger".

However, as a fiscal conservative, I believe that most players under the age of 40 should not waste their money on games. If you are under 40, have any credit card debt, and less than $50,000 in the bank/401K/paid off assets; you should be NOT be gaming and taking a second job to get to that point.

I don't mind paying $120 if it supports the game and allows those that may be "almost there" to have some entertainment. My wife will never play, but I am considering buying her a Legendary pack just to pay in for her "seat".

So how/why would they not have a fonder tag? Because they are responsible citizens instead of "adult children".

Edited by Valhakar, 20 June 2012 - 07:16 AM.

[Major Bill Curtis]

ice trey, on 20 June 2012 - 07:06 AM, said:

In fact, I got into the tabletop since I was so disappointed with MW4 Vengeance, its poor balance, and watered down mechanics.

Sir, if there is a heaven for mechwarriors, you shall be included in it.

[Major Tom]

It is getting to the point were I wish PGI would make a "members only" forum for the founders so you wouldn't foul the air in the general forum.

[FroBanger]

And no it is NOT arrogant to say that people who shell out money on an unfinished product are bigger fans at all its just FACT. People who buy new cars the first production year arn't stupid they just think the product is sexy and they want it. Diving in face first with a big wad of cash to support a company that so far has made the game look pretty cool is a good idea. ITS AMERICAN .. although both the software company and myself are canadian still. People bought American war bonds during the Great wars to show support for their country and help out. The same can be said for a founders tag. War bonds didnt get you anything tangible they were just worth money or so you were told. Buying a founders pack PRE open beta just means we want the product to succeed and all you people sitting on the side line saying Oh I'm a huge fan of mechwarrior i just dont want to spend money on an untested product. Well how about you buy a founders pack and add that cash to the pile so they can make a SUPERIOR product.

[ice trey]

Waladil, on 20 June 2012 - 07:09 AM, said:

...admittedly, that's just because a bureaucratic f-up has resulted in a long-delayed paycheck and getting a Founder's pack is #1 priority when I DO get money, but that's beside the point!

Waladil, on 20 June 2012 - 07:09 AM, said:

bureaucratic f-up

In true Free Worlds League fashion, no less.

[CapperDeluxe]

No need to belittle those who choose not to pre-purchase. Its plenty reasonable for people not to want to purchase it until they get their hands on it. What I would say is once the game is released, for anyone who is enjoying the game to at least put a few bucks into it (if not more if they can afford it). That's what will keep this game afloat, is a dedicated playerbase!

[Major Bill Curtis]

FroBanger, on 20 June 2012 - 07:10 AM, said:

That is Exactly it you CANNOT be a fan of the Mechwarrior tittle and NOT have a founder tag. You keep saying you can but YOU CAN't if you can't spend 60 dollars to show microsoft that their idea that Battle Robot simulators were dead is a terrrible idea then you are no fun.

Microsoft . . . wait for it . . .



does not care.



Really, they don't: check out Windows Vista

[1stStrike86]

I think there are multiple ways to support this game. One way is the financial way. But even if you dont want or cant support the game by spending money on it, it doesnt mean you cant be as much of a fan as someone who did spend the money.

This game will grow stronger with the community behind it, and if you decides to be part of it, it will be the best support to the game you can make, regardless of the money you put into it.

[B B Wolfe]

FroBanger, on 20 June 2012 - 07:15 AM, said:

And no it is NOT arrogant to say that people who shell out money on an unfinished product are bigger fans at all its just FACT.

It just means they have funds available for discretionary spending. You cannot come to valid conclusions regarding the rationale behind the spending just by the presence of a founders' tag.

[Schlifer]

I agree with the sentiment of sponsoring that which you are an fan of but, not everyone can afford it and it still can make them as big as an fan as someone who gives money.

[Shredhead]

FroBanger, on 20 June 2012 - 07:10 AM, said:

That is Exactly it you CANNOT be a fan of the Mechwarrior tittle and NOT have a founder tag. You keep saying you can but YOU CAN't if you can't spend 60 dollars to show microsoft that their idea that Battle Robot simulators were dead is a terrrible idea then you are no fun.

And saying someone can't afford 60 dollars .. This game has been DEAD for 10 years. DEAD. 60 dollars helps ressurect a game we all thought we would never be playing again and shows the Big Companies that mechwarrior is here to stay. And as far as lisenses agreements concerns go. Yes they did have to go F2P microsofts Lisenses only lets Pirhana port this game to PC and to X-box it cannot port to any other non microsoft sytems.

in a month and a half if you cannot save up 60 dollars to help keep this game alive you are no fan you are a gamer who thinks mechwarrior is COOL. Elitist? No thats not elitist when Microsoft said they would not be making any More Mechwarrior because it wasnt a "profitable venture" that true fans wept openly. Now we have a chance to resurect this game with money. Just imagine all the money you have spent on activision and Microsofts Mechwarriors's Mechwarrior 2-4 The expansions. Each one of those was at least 60 dollars. expecept hte clan and innner sphere pack.

It is not elitist in the least to think that Legendary founders are bigger fans we.. ok that is.. But it is NOT elitist to say that founders are bigger fans then non founders. If you love this game and never want it to end up in the hands of activision who let the lisense slip or Microsoft who did a cost vs implementation theory and decided it was not worth it then pay the 60 bucks.

I hope you feel good now that you could make clear that you are so much better than all those tag-less subhumans. May I humbly ask the master if the master wishes me to hold the "elitist hipster" sign a bit higher?

[WhiskyLen]

I bought my founders pack to support a game that has given me hours of fun, as for the simulator comments I stopped playing when the game became less of a simulator and more of a first person shooter type game, I remember playing in the early 90's when it took alot of effort to get online and get a group together but if you were part of one it was a heck of a game. As for people not paying if you have the money to support the game then spend it even the lowest pack is cheaper than buying the game. Development is expensive, and they have to pay the bills as well, I looked at my $120 purchase as a donation towards the cause, if I get $120 in value out of it then great thats a bonus.

I'm looking forward to sending volleys of missiles followed up with some laser shots at each of you regardless if you paid or not.

WhiskyLen