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Does Radar Deprivation Still Completely Counter Adv. Target Decay?

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#1 Suko

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 08:47 PM

I've been gone a few weeks from the game. As the title says, does Radar Deprivation still completely counter Adv. Target Decay? I knew a lot of people thought it was BS when it first released and I had hoped they'd do something to tone it down a bit.

#2 Sephlock

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 08:56 PM

Why would they ever fix this? It's working as intended.

Just like ECM.

#3 Signal27

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 08:56 PM

As an owner of Radar Dep, I don't think so. There have been a few times where I've ran behind cover and I didn't hear the little ping that indicates my Radar Dep dropped somebody's lock until a couple of seconds later. I'm guessing that meant that someone had the Target Decay mod.

I might be wrong, though.

Edited by Signal27, 18 July 2014 - 08:57 PM.


#4 Devilsfury

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 08:58 PM

I run radar dep on my ECM raven and i STILL get hit for 2-3 seconds after i run behind cover. So...no, its still crap. But, there are others that will tell you that it works fine. Maybe PGI hates me???

Edited by Devilsfury, 18 July 2014 - 08:59 PM.


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Posted 18 July 2014 - 09:00 PM

View PostSignal27, on 18 July 2014 - 08:56 PM, said:

As an owner of Radar Dep, I don't think so. There have been a few times where I've ran behind cover and I didn't hear the little ping that indicates my Radar Dep dropped somebody's lock until a couple of seconds later. I'm guessing that meant that someone had the Target Decay mod.

I might be wrong, though.


or you only broke LOS with one unit and another still had LOS

#6 Signal27

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 09:04 PM

View PostKilo 40, on 18 July 2014 - 09:00 PM, said:


or you only broke LOS with one unit and another still had LOS


That is a possibility but in this one instance I could almost swear that it was only the one targeting me. Otherwise, if there was another guy, he would've kept the lock for the LRMs.

#7 The Amazing Atomic Spaniel

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 11:07 PM

There's a thread about this somewhere where this was tested. Radar Dep reduces but does not eliminate the advantage offered by Target Decay.

#8 Mazzyplz

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 11:11 PM

View PostRocketDog, on 18 July 2014 - 11:07 PM, said:

There's a thread about this somewhere where this was tested. Radar Dep reduces but does not eliminate the advantage offered by Target Decay.


that seems fair. i just built a lrm boat that has target decay stage 2 module, and it works very well, but i am also running bap and command console on the same rig; so i hold locks for a while unless enemy has ecm

#9 Yokaiko

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 01:24 AM

View PostMazzyplz, on 18 July 2014 - 11:11 PM, said:


that seems fair. i just built a lrm boat that has target decay stage 2 module, and it works very well, but i am also running bap and command console on the same rig; so i hold locks for a while unless enemy has ecm



LRM atlas detected.

Die.

#10 Ph30nix

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 07:40 AM

adv target decay was at bit much to begin with. Personally i think adv target decay should only effect a target that YOU had vision on. If you get a target from a teammate you shouldnt get the bonus.

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 08:36 AM

View PostPh30nix, on 19 July 2014 - 07:40 AM, said:

adv target decay was at bit much to begin with. Personally i think adv target decay should only effect a target that YOU had vision on. If you get a target from a teammate you shouldnt get the bonus.



I was thinking about this limitation as well but then I thought better of it when I looked at the bigger picture including role warfare and dedicated spotter mechs.

#12 Ph30nix

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 05:00 PM

View PostLykaon, on 19 July 2014 - 08:36 AM, said:



I was thinking about this limitation as well but then I thought better of it when I looked at the bigger picture including role warfare and dedicated spotter mechs.

if the SPOTTER has it then fine you can get the bonus from them but if YOU have it and they dont then no

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 07:28 PM

View PostRocketDog, on 18 July 2014 - 11:07 PM, said:

There's a thread about this somewhere where this was tested. Radar Dep reduces but does not eliminate the advantage offered by Target Decay.

^this
now beyond that I don't know

#14 Sephlock

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 07:45 PM

View PostSandpit, on 19 July 2014 - 07:28 PM, said:

^this
now beyond that I don't know

Lazy links or it didn't happen.

The search system is atrocious.

#15 Sandpit

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 07:51 PM

View PostSephlock, on 19 July 2014 - 07:45 PM, said:

Lazy links or it didn't happen.

The search system is atrocious.

which is exactly why I'm not wading through it for you lol

#16 Rampancy

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 08:14 PM

Radar Deprivation has NEVER completely countered Advanced Target Decay. Still doing the same thing it has always done, which is eliminate the "normal" decay time.





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