Advice: Upgrade Or New System?
#1
Posted 24 July 2014 - 05:58 AM
Thanks for taking time out of your day to take a look at a new player's rig. MWO is the only intensive game I play, and I have been having very choppy performance making it hard for me to aim properly. I love the game enough that I am committed to improving the game play so I can enjoy it properly, so an upgrade or new system seem to be needed.
SPECS
Processors: Intel Xeon Quad Core W3520 2.66GHz 4.8GT/s QPI HT Processor 1366pin 8MB CPU
Memory: 8GB DDR3 PC3-10600 1333MHz Memory
Video Card: nVidia Quadro FX1700 PCI Express 512MB Dual Port
RESULTS
I was running 12-14 fps until I bumped my resolution down to the lowest setting, which pushed me back up to about 20-22 ish.
I am willing to spring for:
1) the the video card that will make the most difference given my CPU
2) a new CPU if that is better then a new vid card
3) both if it is considerably cheaper then a new rig
4) a new rig if it is the only real way to enjoy the game properly.
I have started researching it on my own, but I am a bit concerned Ill buy the wrong thing.
Thanks guys, I appreciate you.
-Low
#2
Posted 24 July 2014 - 06:04 AM
What's your budget for a new build?
#3
Posted 24 July 2014 - 06:09 AM
-Low
#4
Posted 24 July 2014 - 06:12 AM
#5
Posted 24 July 2014 - 06:13 AM
#6
Posted 24 July 2014 - 06:59 AM
LowRoad, on 24 July 2014 - 06:09 AM, said:
-Low
You can pretty much build a gaming super computer with $1500.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($76.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M550 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Toshiba 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ Micro Center)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 290X 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($489.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1476.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-24 11:00 EDT-0400
rest of the $24 goes to buy a couple case fans
Edited by DocBach, 24 July 2014 - 07:01 AM.
#7
Posted 24 July 2014 - 08:24 AM
Maybe something like http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814202059
and .http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438014
#8
Posted 24 July 2014 - 08:36 AM
ninjitsu, on 24 July 2014 - 08:24 AM, said:
Maybe something like http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814202059
and .http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438014
Forgive my noobishness, why the power supply? Will a new card not be able to run on an older supply? I would certainly prefer to just buy the card first and see if it gets me there, but I don't want to fry my supply if it is inadequate.
Thanks
#9
Posted 24 July 2014 - 08:37 AM
This is, of course, if you assemble it yourself. If you want to buy it from a retailer then add several hundred to the prices being said here.
Good luck man!
#10
Posted 24 July 2014 - 08:54 AM
LowRoad, on 24 July 2014 - 08:36 AM, said:
Thanks
Most stock power supplies don't have enough power for gaming video cards. Even with the cost of buying a new power supply, you'd be spending under $300 to get the game much more playable.
#11
Posted 24 July 2014 - 09:33 AM
Seriously though, yes a new system.
#12
Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:02 AM
DocBach, on 24 July 2014 - 06:59 AM, said:
You can pretty much build a gaming super computer with $1500.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($76.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M550 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Toshiba 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ Micro Center)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 290X 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($489.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1476.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-24 11:00 EDT-0400
rest of the $24 goes to buy a couple case fans
DocBach, on 24 July 2014 - 06:59 AM, said:
I would at that point not buy a K series I5 for 330$+ and instead buy an I7 non K and let the threads take care of business instead the clockspeed........more reliable and future proof.........just my .02 but overall this rig will get down to the brass taxes and slay any and all games......
Edited by Smokeyjedi, 24 July 2014 - 10:03 AM.
#13
Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:11 AM
Just make sure all the parts do your research into each component, and you'll be fine!
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My recommendations (these don't necessarily match)
Mobo: ASUS Sabertooth Series - Solid, great IO, thermal armor is cooooool, and easy setup. Looks great also. I have a Rampage III myself, but I think all the ROG features are pointless. Would've sprung for the sabertooth if I had known. 2011 Socket seems to be the way into the future for the time being.
Video Card: EVGA GeForceGTX 780
RAM - GSkill Sniper or Ripjaw Series - RAM at a great price that is quite good. Never did see the advantage of buying Corsair Vengeance
Case - Corsair Obsidian Series - I love love love this case. Super sexy aluminum, plenty of space for large GPUs, Heatsink Fans, and even Push/Pull top exhaust with some motherboards.
PSU: Seasonic X Series PSUs are GREAT. (Seasonic makes PSUs for Corsair and Antec anyway, why not go to the source?)
SSDs: Samsung 840 Evo & Pros are great right now, especially for the money. However, if you can find em and pay a bit more, Intel SSDs are ROCK solid.
CPU Cooling: Hyper 212 Plus or if you want liquid cooling Corsair H100i
Other super cool stuff:
This Silverstone cage lets you put 4 hard drives or SSDs in three of your 5.25 front bays. Looks super sexy, adds and extra intake fan, nice not-too-bright blue LED, and frees up a LOT of space inside your case.
http://www.newegg.co...9-164-_-Product
Edited by xeromynd, 24 July 2014 - 10:14 AM.
#14
Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:34 AM
CPU rating
http://www.cpubenchm...520+%40+2.67GHz
GPU rating
http://www.videocard...=Quadro+FX+1700
Memory rating (I think this is the right stick)
http://www.memoryben...16F+4GB&id=1457
as you will notice your GPU is sub 400 in the ratings where to run MWO a card should be scoring north of 700 to ensure playability at the lowest graphics. Like the card below.
http://www.videocard...GeForce+8800+GT
You could make a huge improvement by buying just a graphics card but, it is good insurance to upgrade your PSU (Power Supply) as well.
The below products should get you to a playable rig.
Nvidia GTX750 TI
http://www.newegg.co...0140724183146:s
ThemalTake Bronze power supply:
http://www.newegg.co...0140724183409:s
Edited by SpDmnAdam, 24 July 2014 - 10:36 AM.
#15
Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:43 AM
#16
Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:55 AM
Barbaric Soul, on 24 July 2014 - 10:43 AM, said:
I already said this stuff! Although, he's most likely going to need a new PSU to support a new video card.
#17
Posted 24 July 2014 - 11:14 AM
#18
Posted 24 July 2014 - 11:14 AM
Barbaric Soul, on 24 July 2014 - 10:43 AM, said:
My bad I misread his specs...
For some reason I thought he posted Core-2 Quad 2.66ghz, you know the old Yorkfield Chip, 775 socket.
(facepalm)
#19
Posted 24 July 2014 - 11:36 AM
#20
Posted 24 July 2014 - 02:44 PM
If your board supports it upgrade your cpu for $133 cpu score on this is around 7500. your other was 5000.
http://www.amazon.co...IN%3DB003EM6CJE
150-200 bucks for a video card
133 cpu
50-70 for psu.
It will play every game on the market.
Edited by Monkey Lover, 24 July 2014 - 02:59 PM.
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