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[Jackplays17]

Im having some really bad problems with frame rate. I have optimized it with razer game booster. I get 15-20 frames on the LOWEST POSSIBLE settings. any ideas for optimization besides overclocking?

Specs:
8 GB ram
Graphics card: Nvidia GeForce 620
64 Bit
Proccesor: AMD FX 4300 Quad core, 3.80 GhZ

*edit* All my programs like directX are up to date completely.

Edited by Jackplays17, 27 July 2014 - 04:00 PM.

[t Khrist]

Hi Jackplays17!

Welcome to MWO and I hope you're enjoying the game despite your frame rate issues. Unfortunately I think the issue is your graphics card. My old rig had a geforce 650ti with an i5 3330 and ran MWO at an average of 30-40 fps with occasional dips in the teens during large firefights. That's also running two or three settings on high vs very high for all the others.

My new rig has a 760ti in it with an i7 4770 3.8 GhZ, and runs on average 40-50 fps with rare dips into the 20's on very high settings. Your processor and memory seem plenty, just need to bump that GPU up a bit. The 760 2-gig runs about $250 on newegg. Hope this is helpful.

See you on the battlefield.

Edited by t Khrist, 27 July 2014 - 04:21 PM.

[Jackplays17]

OK, do you think i could just overclock it? upgrading is not an option.

*edit* I WANT 60 frames, no more is required. any more than that is unnessesary. I require atleast 25 frames for it to be playable.

Edited by Jackplays17, 27 July 2014 - 04:39 PM.

[Spike Brave]

Try using dx9 instead of 11 and make sure that you have damage glow turned off.

[t Khrist]

Jackplays17, on 27 July 2014 - 04:27 PM, said:

OK, do you think i could just overclock it? upgrading is not an option.

*edit* I WANT 60 frames, no more is required. any more than that is unnessesary. I require atleast 25 frames for it to be playable.

60 is just out of the question for your current GPU. It is 100% necessary to upgrade in order to achieve that kind of frame rate, let alone a stable one. Spike brave's advice is your best option. If that doesn't work I'm afraid you may be out of options. Let us know how it works out.

[Jackplays17]

http://www.newegg.co...0140728015716:s

This is what im looking at. searched for hours. will this work? cheapest one i could find.

*edit*

EVGA 02G-P4-2742-KR GeForce GT 740 Superclocked 2GB 128-Bit DDR3 PCI Express 3.0 Video Card


The name of card ^

Edited by Jackplays17, 28 July 2014 - 07:46 AM.

[DEMAX51]

Jackplays17, on 28 July 2014 - 07:38 AM, said:

http://www.newegg.co...0140728015716:s

This is what im looking at. searched for hours. will this work? cheapest one i could find.

*edit*

EVGA 02G-P4-2742-KR GeForce GT 740 Superclocked 2GB 128-Bit DDR3 PCI Express 3.0 Video Card


The name of card ^

For gaming, you really want to try to go with a GTX -60 or higher (meaning 660, or 760). The -50 models and below just don't quite cut it for games with higher-end graphics - especially games that run on CryEngine like MWO. The card you linked will probably not get you anywhere near 60fps (in fact, stable 60 fps is pretty tough to achieve in this game even if you have a top-end rig).

Edit: Something like this would give you much better performance, though it is $50 more than the card you linked, and I understand you're probably on a budget.

Still, if you go with a lower-level card, you'll just need to upgrade again sooner, so the extra $50 will save you more than that down the line.

Also, I'm not terribly familiar with AMD CPUs, but if yours is unlocked and you can overclock it, getting it to 4.0-4.3Ghz will probably give you a nice FPS boost, too, as this game is pretty heavily CPU bound. That said, if you haven't invested in a decent aftermarket CPU heatsink, and if you're running a relatively low-wattage power supply, I would strongly advise you against trying to push you CPU clock that high.

In the interim you could also try lowering your resolution to something like 1280x720.

Edited by DEMAX51, 28 July 2014 - 08:29 AM.

[Jackplays17]

OK, this is the next best thing for 20$ more than the other one. its 110$. i really cant go any higher than that.
EVGA GeForce GTX 750 1GB GDDR5 Graphics Card

Is it REALLY that much of a difference going from 750-760?

[Jackplays17]

Just researched the 660 and 760. both are WAY out of my price range. i CANNOT go above 130$.

[Jackplays17]

I found this for 160. its 140 with a promo code i found. its doable. should i take this one? its a 660.
http://www.newegg.co...AAAPxsewCX:2014

[Jackplays17]

DEMAX51, on 28 July 2014 - 08:08 AM, said:

For gaming, you really want to try to go with a GTX -60 or higher (meaning 660, or 760). The -50 models and below just don't quite cut it for games with higher-end graphics - especially games that run on CryEngine like MWO. The card you linked will probably not get you anywhere near 60fps (in fact, stable 60 fps is pretty tough to achieve in this game even if you have a top-end rig).

Edit: Something like this would give you much better performance, though it is $50 more than the card you linked, and I understand you're probably on a budget.

Still, if you go with a lower-level card, you'll just need to upgrade again sooner, so the extra $50 will save you more than that down the line.

Also, I'm not terribly familiar with AMD CPUs, but if yours is unlocked and you can overclock it, getting it to 4.0-4.3Ghz will probably give you a nice FPS boost, too.

In the interim you could also try lowering your resolution to something like 1280x720.

OK i MIGHT JUST MIGHT be able to manage the card you suggested. My CPU IS FULLY unlocked so i can overclock it as much as possible. will do.

[Warblood]

here's some things you can try to do to get some more FPS:
- lower screen resolution
- use dx9 instead of 11
- damage glow off
- set post processing to med of not low
- anti-aliasing(AA) off

if you really want to hit 60+ fps and still have some settings turned up, then start thinking about anew video card some were in the 100-150 range at least.

[Jackplays17]

Also: the card I suggested i might get is 20$ cheaper and the Mostly the same. should i go with the one i found?

Edited by Jackplays17, 28 July 2014 - 08:30 AM.

[DEMAX51]

In all honesty, the -50 series and below aren't really designed for gaming. There's a big difference in gaming performance between the -50 and higher-end cards.

That refurbed card you linked looks decent, and EVGA has excellent support if you have any issues with it.

However, if you can get by with your current card for about another month, NewEgg always has really good sales around Labor Day (September 1st). If you haven't yet, make sure to sign up for their e-mail promotions, as they put out a lot of sales thru e-mails that aren't available just by shopping on the site.

Edited by DEMAX51, 28 July 2014 - 08:35 AM.

[Jackplays17]

First of all, how good would you consider good? 10$ off most cards? 20? 30?
It really depends on how much i would get off. if its not to much i wont do it. anyway, theres a deal on the refurbished card right now. i think im going to go for the refurbished card. but i have a question first- what does it mean by it being a support video card, does that mean i use it ALONG with my 620? or what?

read some reviews about the refurbished card, one person said it can get up to 60-70 Degrees celsius. is that a big deal? my card now gets up to 90 on some games.

[dezgra]

I get 40fps on every map. Medium settings, AMD4170, GTX550ti, 16 gigs ram, win7pro 64. Maybe its the razor game booster.
(edit)
I run 1920x1080 benq monitor at 60htz. You do need more cooling though.

Edited by dezgra, 28 July 2014 - 09:18 AM.

[DEMAX51]

Jackplays17, on 28 July 2014 - 08:59 AM, said:

First of all, how good would you consider good? 10$ off most cards? 20? 30?
It really depends on how much i would get off. if its not to much i wont do it. anyway, theres a deal on the refurbished card right now. i think im going to go for the refurbished card. but i have a question first- what does it mean by it being a support video card, does that mean i use it ALONG with my 620? or what?

read some reviews about the refurbished card, one person said it can get up to 60-70 Degrees celsius. is that a big deal? my card now gets up to 90 on some games.

They occasionally have very steeply discounted cards - like 50% off, even. I picked up a second GTX 570 back in 2012, marked down to $190 from $340.

I believe the "support" means that it supports SLI. If your current card and your motherboard both support SLI as well, you could use both GPUs (your current card would be for PhysX only).

60-70C isn't a big deal for a GPU. Most are fine even into the 80s-90s.

Edited by DEMAX51, 28 July 2014 - 10:05 AM.

[n r g]

Jackplays17, on 27 July 2014 - 03:59 PM, said:

Im having some really bad problems with frame rate. I have optimized it with razer game booster. I get 15-20 frames on the LOWEST POSSIBLE settings. any ideas for optimization besides overclocking?

Specs:
8 GB ram
Graphics card: Nvidia GeForce 620
64 Bit
Proccesor: AMD FX 4300 Quad core, 3.80 GhZ

*edit* All my programs like directX are up to date completely.

OK, I will help you OP.

Main thing I notice immediately is your card - gt 620, that's going to be hard to get 60FPS on MWO. Thing is, that is a lower "end" card ( def not ****, but totally mediocre and for mainstream usage, the 660/670/680 lines are more for power users who game)

NOW, your CPU seems mediocre as well, though at-least it is a quad-core.

The deceptive thing with AMD in my opinion is that they are cheap compared to intel but have high X.XX Ghz which misleads people IMO, because newer users see a AMD at 3.8ghz and think it's automatically better than the 3.0ghz Intel, BUT Intel usually beats are comparable AMD's CPU's in the benchmarks.

OK, so what you need to do immediately is check your settings:

1) You should be running all graphics on LOW (This means NO ANTI ALIASING - it kills FPS)
2) Use DX9
3) Try Damage Glow OFF as others have stated
4) Lowering resolution helps ALOT! Even if you have a 24" monitor that is native 1900x1080 (which is a 16:9 ratio), you can bump it down to 1600x900 or even 1280x720 and still maintain the same ratio and it will still good with the exchange of more FPS.
5) Overclock. I don't have extensively knowledge on your CPU or GPU, but just by looking at it, their maybe no use to overclock.

Reason is, CPU's like mine, Intel 4770k are unlocked and make it EASY to over clock and they get a pretty good overclock. Other CPUs and GPU's that are more mainstream, DO NOT have overclocking features and are harder to overclock and at the end, you may not even get a big boost, so this is up to you depending on your experience.

I will end this with the fact that my brother has a Phenom x4 quad core CPU with Nvidia gt220 and I managed to set up his PC to get at least 45ish FPS in MWO (he had to run all settings on LOW, dx9, and lower resolution to 1600x900).

I can guarantee though if you have the $$$, and higher end NVIDIA card or ATI card will get you 60 pretty easily, and all you have to do is swap the card out (just make sure the PSU can supply enough power)

The only sad thing is, MWO seems to be poorly optimized, meaning that you could get 60 with that new card, but get easily over 100+ in all other games, so definitely don't let MWO be the standard "benchmark" for your fps

[t Khrist]

Jackplays17, on 28 July 2014 - 08:23 AM, said:

I found this for 160. its 140 with a promo code i found. its doable. should i take this one? its a 660.
http://www.newegg.co...AAAPxsewCX:2014

I think that card will do you just fine, it's essentially the same 760ti I just got in my rig, being the Geforce 'ti' models are just the previous years cards tweaked a bit so that they run about 20-25% better than before their refurbishing. You should get an average 30 fps, and if you keep moderate visuals settings along with the suggestions offered in this forum you can deter dips in frame rate during hectic firefights. But that Labor Day sale sounds like a worthwhile wait as well..

[TheCaptainJZ]

I have a GTX 550Ti and get good performance 30-50 fps on mostly low settings. DX9 works better for me as well. I lose about 10 fps with DX11.