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#1 Voivode

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Posted 22 August 2014 - 09:03 PM

Alright, I *want* to keep three kitfoxes. I have three Stormcrow builds I like and three Warhawk builds I like.

I'm keeping a kitfox with ECM / UAC5 / 2xERML

I'm keeping a kitfox with ECM / 2xLPLS

What do I do with this third one? I've struggled with the kitfox and I confess I don't particularly like it. It's slow and it's made of paper. It seems like anything you do with it a medium (IS or Clan) will do better.

#2 Escef

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Posted 22 August 2014 - 10:22 PM

I've gotten good results from ECM, ERML, 2xLRM15, 5 tons ammo, 2xJets.

#3 UBCslayer

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Posted 22 August 2014 - 10:51 PM

Step 1: equip ECM, 3 X AMS, ERPPC, 2 ML, 2 MG, 1 JJ. Step 2: Profit.

#4 BOWMANGR

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Posted 22 August 2014 - 11:00 PM

Whenever I spectate some pilots struggling with the Kit Fox, it seems like crap, but every 10 matches I happen upon some pilots who absolutely kick ass with them. So it has its niche.

Its importance will come into play when we finally have Clan vs IS matches. If you theoretically remove the Kif Fox's ECM from play then the Clans are going to suffer from LRMs like never before. Now they usually ride along the IS ECM mechs and it doesn't really show but an all Clan team without Kit Fox's support is going to have a bad day.

Assuming they are actually balanced some time in the future, because as the Clans are right now, they can just bully the IS with a charge and overrun them easily as the multiple Clan vs IS matches showed.

Edited by BOWMANGR, 22 August 2014 - 11:09 PM.


#5 Chagatay

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Posted 22 August 2014 - 11:41 PM

UAC/5
3xERML
ECM
Mark I Computer

Works for me. Solid performance all around as a pokey mech

#6 Bigbacon

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 09:30 AM

try

1ML, ECM on C arm
2MPL prime arm
LBX5 RT with 2 tons ammo.

or
2 LPL
2 SL
prime and s arm for that one

the LL burn time is too long now for the fox to handle since you need to be exposed so long.

Edited by Bigbacon, 23 August 2014 - 09:31 AM.


#7 MonkeyCheese

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 05:34 PM

not having fun? slap on 2 UAC2s and go dakka

#8 Rattler85

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 05:52 PM

On my prime I have: 2erLL, 2mg, ams, ecm, 2jj.

Another: ecm, 2jj, erLL, 2ssrm4art, ams

Last one: ecm, 2jj, 2mpl, ssrm6, ams

#9 Felio

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 06:00 PM

View PostMonkeyCheese, on 23 August 2014 - 05:34 PM, said:

not having fun? slap on 2 UAC2s and go dakka


With ECM, 3 tons ammo, 1 JJ and nothing else?

#10 John80sk

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 06:18 PM

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...fde5e9da896b42b <-one of my favorites, hard to use outside of a brawler group where you can depend on not being focused.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...d498990ded77fdd <-narc finisher. Terrible damage output, but good for causing your team to focus a target and then finishing it off yourself.

Otherwise, UBC's build is also a very good option.

#11 MonkeyCheese

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 06:45 PM

View PostFelio, on 23 August 2014 - 06:00 PM, said:


With ECM, 3 tons ammo, 1 JJ and nothing else?

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...c75b86b40d33cd8

YOU DONT HAVE TO ALWAYS HAVE ECM TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THIS GAME...

#12 Xiang

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 06:51 PM

The 3 builds i like are as follows (best as i can remember since i am not at home):
1 - 4x SSRM4 (3.5 ammo), 2x MG (1 ammo), 1 JJ, CAP
2 - 2xLRM15 (2 ammo i think), ECM, 2x MG (1 ammo)
3 - ECM, 2 MPL, 2 MG (1 ammo), 3x AMS (2.5 ammo), 2 JJ (support)

They all have thier niche, but i like the 4x SSRM4 version, it is great to see lights run in fear when they see that many streaks incoming.

Just remember, the kit fox plays more like a medium with light armor, so stay close to your group. If you get caught alone, it is going to go bad very quick.

Xiang

Edited by Xiang, 23 August 2014 - 06:52 PM.


#13 Ruccus

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 06:59 PM

I've had some good success with a 2xCERLL, 2xMG, JJ, ECM build. Don't press, just hang back (help an LRM boat if you've got one on your team) or follow an assault to give them ECM cover, and fire at anything red. The range of the CERLLs means to can provide full damage support even if you're trailing behind, and when helping an LRM boat they provide good direct fire on the boat's target.

I haven't gotten around to skilling up my kitfoxes so I've been doing that during this weekend's event, so I basically stripped the omnipods off the two mechs I'm not using to make a build, then I transfer it to the others when I want to level up that chassis.

I'm currently using the KFX-D with the C right arm, the S torsos, and the Prime left arm. Here's the build. You can also opt to put both CERLLs on the left arm; I kind of 'hedge my bets' with one in each so I'm not almost defenseless if I lose the left arm, and so I can peek around both left and right corners while still being able to fire on a target.

Edit: Just popping back because with the above build I got a 3 kill, 9 assist, 1107 damage match. Basically it was on caustic and both teams were defending and picking away - the CERLLs really came into their own.

Edited by Ruccus, 23 August 2014 - 07:37 PM.


#14 Wild Hamster

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Posted 25 August 2014 - 07:04 AM

4x SRM6, 2 MG

Sure, its totally a troll build, but it sometimes works cos no one expects that tiny cute fox to wreck their face with a 48 alpha

#15 xMintaka

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Posted 25 August 2014 - 07:15 AM

View PostWild Hamster, on 25 August 2014 - 07:04 AM, said:

4x SRM6, 2 MG

Sure, its totally a troll build, but it sometimes works cos no one expects that tiny cute fox to wreck their face with a 48 alpha


I can vouch for the Splatfox, it's hilarious.

Probably the "best" build I've used is ECM, ERPPC, NARC, ERML and AMS/JJ's/DHS to taste.

#16 Garandos

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Posted 25 August 2014 - 07:21 AM

2 UAC 2 2 tons ammo, 2 ML, ECM, Advanced zoom, stay back and enjoy

#17 Tastian

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Posted 25 August 2014 - 07:26 AM

You have ECM, so you are doing it right. 2xLPL are great too. But none of yours have narc. Narc with LPL and ERLL and JJ is great fun. Or ERPPC, ERMed, and Narc, but I prefer the lasers.

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 09:42 PM

View PostChagatay, on 22 August 2014 - 11:41 PM, said:

UAC/5
3xERML
ECM
Mark I Computer

Works for me. Solid performance all around as a pokey mech


This right here, toss in art/uav and your an excellent support mech with teeth.

#19 GumbyC2C

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 09:45 PM

when we go to 10v12 and or CW, the Kit Fox will be a critical asset at least until we get a Hellbringer
http://www.sarna.net...nger_%28Loki%29

#20 William Mountbank

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 05:05 AM

I prefer the 2xUAC2 with ECM: KFX-DakkaTroll.

But the twin CER-PPC is pretty fun on alpine too...

But it's nowhere near as durable or consistently performing as a TwERLL Raven or Spider.





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