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[Davegt27]

So I found that I had some MC and C-bills on the test server so I am thinking,

these guys screwed up


I bought three Timber Wolfs and I even bought a fan and some speakers

I was also wondering for those people that got a chance to try out a Clan Mech for the first time

What did you think?

I thought the TW was pretty cool a little sluggish and for some reason it did not like backing up
(Could have been the teammate trying to use me as a shield)

All in all things went pretty smooth

Edited by Davegt27, 29 August 2014 - 07:56 PM.

[Ryokens leap]

The Timberwolf gets much, much better when skilled up. It doesn't exactly stop on a dime pre-elite either.

[Joseph Mallan]

Of course I did! It was on the test server. I found my Omnis no more OP than my other Mechs.

[Impyrium]

Tried the Daishi and the Masakari... which I absolutely hated to death. The rest of the PTS was spent being alphered in the back by newbie Novas. :\

[Damien Tokala]

So you're telling us... Clans are not as op as you thought?

Edited by Damien Tokala, 29 August 2014 - 08:25 PM.

[MonkeyCheese]

I actually had fun in a 2erppc lrm10 adder...


I think I need help.

[Mcgral18]

It was intended to have the Clan mechs for sale, it was announced...on Twitter.


I was a tad surprized about the TimberWolf. It's amazing. It combined the the fun of the WubFox, the firepower of the Splatter, while having the armour of a 75 tonner. 4 MPLs and 4 SRM4s was just so fun, and devastating.

But the Nerfinator nerfed my Wub, and that made me sad. At least 22 DHS can keep them cool, and 3 JJs help with the broken hitbox animations.

[FDJustin]

Damien Tokala, on 29 August 2014 - 08:20 PM, said:

So you're telling us... Clans are not as op as you thought?

Probably helps that all the lasers were slapped down a notch or six.

[Joseph Mallan]

Damien Tokala, on 29 August 2014 - 08:20 PM, said:

So you're telling us... Clans are not as op as you thought?

They are weaker than I thought.

[Bishop Steiner]

Joseph Mallan, on 29 August 2014 - 08:14 PM, said:

Of course I did! It was on the test server. I found my Omnis no more OP than my other Mechs.

Only Because I was there to stop you in my uber secret alt account....big bad TWolf felled by my itty bitty Vindicator!!!!

[Joseph Mallan]

Bishop Steiner, on 29 August 2014 - 08:47 PM, said:

Only Because I was there to stop you in my uber secret alt account....big bad TWolf felled by my itty bitty Vindicator!!!!

Not just your Vindicator... But verifying my point that Timber Wolves need no Nerfing!

[Bishop Steiner]

Joseph Mallan, on 29 August 2014 - 08:45 PM, said:

They are weaker than I thought.

TWolf, in fairness, when elited, and one gets used to it......is almost as ridiculous as people make it sound. It's just the perfect storm, perfect weight, perfect speed, armor, etc. Hitboxes, to the front (CT) are not perfect, and the back is pretty borked (been running the Koniving Armor Protocol), but it really is the boogie man Spheroids fear. Much less so since the JJs of the S were thankfully nerfed, but it's stupid easy to do well in the mech, to the point, I generally dislike running it because it's kinda EZMode.

Though I did find a non minmax/meta build for my Prime on the server I rather enjoyed.
TBR-WarDancer

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 29 August 2014 - 08:55 PM.

[Joseph Mallan]

Bishop Steiner, on 29 August 2014 - 08:50 PM, said:

TWolf, in fairness, when elited, and one gets used to it......is almost as ridiculous as people make it sound. It's just the perfect storm, perfect weight, perfect speed, armor, etc. Hitboxes, to the front (CT) are not perfect, and the back is pretty borked (been running the Koniving Armor Protocol), but it really is the boogie man Spheroids fear. Much less so since the JJs of the S were thankfully nerfed, but it's stupid easy to do well in the mech, to the point, I generally dislike running it because it's kinda EZMode.

Though I did find a non minmax/meta build for my Prime on the server I rather enjoyed.

75 tons has always been that spot!

[Damien Tokala]

In all honesty the changes don't feel like a Nerf, they feel like they give up a little to gain a little

[Bishop Steiner]

Joseph Mallan, on 29 August 2014 - 08:54 PM, said:

75 tons has always been that spot!

true, but trust me when I say That if you pit an Orion vs a Twolf, with equally skilled pilots, the ON1 will lose at least 3 out of 4 of those matches (and I am a HUGE Orion fan, my best brawler being my ON1-VA)

[Ultimax]

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Though I did find a non minmax/meta build for my Prime on the server I rather enjoyed.

The main TBRs I see are:

LRMs
Laser Boat
Lasers + SRMs

Sometimes see the occasional Gauss + CERMLAS

Ballistic TBRs pretty much dropped off the map, which I expected early on when I was asserting the TBR doesn't have enough tonnage to make optimal builds out of. (Dual UAC5s +4 CERMLAS is decent, but I think other builds are outright better).

Poptart TBR I almost never see, due to JJ nerfs, PPC nerfs and the fact that with Gauss + CERPPCs the build is just ludicrously hot once things get into brawl range.


So I'm not really sure what build is "meta" at this point for the TBR.

[Bishop Steiner]

Ultimatum X, on 29 August 2014 - 08:58 PM, said:

The main TBRs I see are:

LRMs
Laser Boat
Lasers + SRMs

Sometimes see the occasional Gauss + CERMLAS

Ballistic TBRs pretty much dropped off the map, which I expected early on when I was asserting the TBR doesn't have enough tonnage to make optimal builds out of. (Dual UAC5s +4 CERMLAS is decent, but I think other builds are outright better).

Poptart TBR I almost never see, due to JJ nerfs, PPC nerfs and the fact that with Gauss + CERPPCs the build is just ludicrously hot once things get into brawl range.


So I'm not really sure what build is "meta" at this point for the TBR.

7 MPL, actually.

[Carrie Harder]

Ultimatum X, on 29 August 2014 - 08:58 PM, said:

The main TBRs I see are:

LRMs
Laser Boat
Lasers + SRMs

Sometimes see the occasional Gauss + CERMLAS

Ballistic TBRs pretty much dropped off the map, which I expected early on when I was asserting the TBR doesn't have enough tonnage to make optimal builds out of. (Dual UAC5s +4 CERMLAS is decent, but I think other builds are outright better).

Poptart TBR I almost never see, due to JJ nerfs, PPC nerfs and the fact that with Gauss + CERPPCs the build is just ludicrously hot once things get into brawl range.


So I'm not really sure what build is "meta" at this point for the TBR.

One "compromise" poptart build I've seen is Gauss + ERPPC + 3-4 ERML, probably to free up more tonnage for hover jets.

[FDJustin]

Joseph Mallan, on 29 August 2014 - 08:54 PM, said:

75 tons has always been that spot!

For me it was the Vulture in MW3... So. 60 tons, with masc (because it let me). Thing was stupid OP.

Admittedly I didn't try the TW. Would have, but didn't realize it was for sale. So I just got a pretty snake skin paintjob, tried out XL builds, level 5 AMS weapon mod and ran around in the Cicada a bit. That really should have been my first light mech.

[Ultimax]

@OP

I actually decided to try Ember/Firestarters and Ravens, because I don't own any.

They are light years beyond clan lights, I'll be picking one or the other and working my way through them at some point.

I also grabbed the Shadowhawk 2K, but the build I wanted to run felt a lot hotter than I thought it would be an I'm not sure if I'll grab that variant yet.

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7 MPL, actually.

That falls under laser boat, but I really don't think that can be considered meta.


I also think the 2 CLPL +Mediums of some kind is the better all around build especially once those CMPLs lose both range AND get hotter.

Which is a baffling nerf, but here we are.