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Are Inner Sphere Lights Too Fast?

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#21 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 07:18 AM

View PostWolfways, on 29 September 2014 - 07:05 AM, said:

I guess it comes down to playstyle. I use the lights speed to move from cover to cover and always try to flank the enemy to stay out of their LOS.


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#22 Green Mamba

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 07:20 AM

View PostWolfways, on 29 September 2014 - 07:17 AM, said:

Is this in team matches or something? I can honestly say lights rarely (if ever) get 1-shotted in any solo matches I've played since closed beta.


Both...Dire wolf Meta can 1 shot me whether I am in my Jenner,Spider or Firestarter from fresh armor and you know that as a Clan player

#23 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 07:25 AM

So reading through the replies, many people have misunderstood my OP. I'm not calling for any sort of nerf or buff or anything. I am simply asking a question. "Here's what I do and why, how about you?"

#24 Green Mamba

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 07:32 AM

The obvious solution is for PGI to pull the 4x3 Drop requirement and everyone just drop in Heavies and Assaults since the Light and Mediums ques' most of the time are much lower anyways .I enjoy piloting Lights more ,but still have some of my Assaults I can go back to if they decide to do this

#25 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 07:33 AM

View PostGreen Mamba, on 29 September 2014 - 07:32 AM, said:

The obvious solution is for PGI to pull the 4x3 Drop requirement and everyone just drop in Heavies and Assaults since the Light and Mediums ques' most of the time are much lower anyways .I enjoy piloting Lights more ,but still have some of my Assaults I can go back to if they decide to do this

I don't even know what you are talking about.... Did you even read the OP or just stop at the title?

#26 Green Mamba

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 07:39 AM

View Postcdlord, on 29 September 2014 - 07:33 AM, said:

I don't even know what you are talking about.... Did you even read the OP or just stop at the title?


Wasn't responding to you but others' Comments.

#27 Livewyr

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 07:39 AM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 29 September 2014 - 07:18 AM, said:


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IIRC, he is not in much a position to speak on the matter.

#28 FupDup

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 07:41 AM

There is not one light mech in the game that is "overpowered." There are a few good ones, but none are OP. Therefore, they are not too fast. They would only qualify as "too" fast if that made them better than other classes, which they're not.

#29 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 07:42 AM

View PostLivewyr, on 29 September 2014 - 07:39 AM, said:


IIRC, he is not in much a position to speak on the matter.


Maybe...but I like the analogy anyway.

Besides...*Spoiler*

We never see him die. I'm sure he's dead, but we don't actually see him die LOL.

#30 DONTOR

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 07:49 AM

I do the opposite and slap on the biggest engine in my mediums and take less optimal weaponry, i.e. 140 KPH Trebuchet.

#31 Sprouticus

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 07:55 AM

The better way to phrase the question:

Why is 1 ton of engine speed almost always better than 1 ton of armor? And how can that be addressed (or can it?) to make the cost/benefit closer to equal without making armor way OP on slower mechs.....

personally I dont think it can with this game engine & model of play. But it is certainly a question that we can discuss.

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 08:00 AM

View PostSprouticus, on 29 September 2014 - 07:55 AM, said:

The better way to phrase the question:

Why is 1 ton of engine speed almost always better than 1 ton of armor? And how can that be addressed (or can it?) to make the cost/benefit closer to equal without making armor way OP on slower mechs.....

personally I dont think it can with this game engine & model of play. But it is certainly a question that we can discuss.


This deserves its own thread.

#33 Viges

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 08:02 AM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 29 September 2014 - 06:35 AM, said:

Not yet... Wait till the 3060s!


With cryengine? Yea, literally...

#34 Thorqemada

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 08:10 AM

Of course yes - a stock Jenner goes 97kph according to Sarna and a stock Cicada 129kph - in this game the Jenner goes 150kph and the Cicada barely can keep its stock Speed changing the balance significantly in favour of the Jenner i.e.
A Commando goes also 97kph and we have variants that reach 170kph...

Anything above 130kph become significantly unreliable to fight against...not to speak of the movement behavior that mocks any physical law with way to tight turn radii and non existant brake path.

Lights need to skid (any Mech but Lights foremost) over the ground when the turn to tight and/or brake to hard!!!

Edited by Thorqemada, 29 September 2014 - 08:10 AM.


#35 Bigbacon

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 08:15 AM

they are fine... since the game right now is "Assault mech online", lights need everything they can get to be fun and not die horribly in one shot.

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 08:24 AM

View PostGreen Mamba, on 29 September 2014 - 07:32 AM, said:

The obvious solution is for PGI to pull the 4x3 Drop requirement and everyone just drop in Heavies and Assaults since the Light and Mediums ques' most of the time are much lower anyways .I enjoy piloting Lights more ,but still have some of my Assaults I can go back to if they decide to do this


i'd rather them just say, "you know what folks, you can play what you want but if you don't want to sit in the queue forever, try other things..." and then force a 3/3/3/3 or even a 3/4/3/2

#37 Christof Romulus

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 08:40 AM

I am Assault Pilot-Guy.... and THiS [Points at AS7-D] is my weapon.

She weighs one hundred tons and fires one thousand four hundred and twenty nine C-bill, custom-tooled cartridges at 15 rounds a minute. It costs four hundred thousand Cbills to fire this weapon, for two and a half minutes.

Oh my god, who touched Anezka?! WHO TOUCHED MY MECH!?

Some Inner Sphere Lights say they can outrun me.

Maybe.
[sniffs and nods]
Maybe.

[Squints] I've yet to meet one that can outrun AC 20.

Edited by Christof Romulus, 29 September 2014 - 09:17 AM.


#38 Wolfways

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 09:06 AM

View PostGreen Mamba, on 29 September 2014 - 07:20 AM, said:


Both...Dire wolf Meta can 1 shot me whether I am in my Jenner,Spider or Firestarter from fresh armor and you know that as a Clan player

I really don't. I've never seen it happen. What exactly is a meta DWF anyway?

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 09:11 AM

View PostWolfways, on 29 September 2014 - 09:06 AM, said:

I really don't. I've never seen it happen. What exactly is a meta DWF anyway?


:lol: Really?
You trolling me now so I will stop

Edited by Green Mamba, 29 September 2014 - 09:11 AM.


#40 Wolfways

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 09:13 AM

View PostGreen Mamba, on 29 September 2014 - 09:11 AM, said:


:lol: Really?
You trolling me now so I will stop

Asking questions is trolling now?





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