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[Goose]

I can see you have room for a double-wide card, but I can't see if it full hight or not: I the bracket 4.2~4.7" or 3.118"?

[Goose]

Hey: How many amps does the label on the PSU say the 12 volt rail carry?

[Padre902]

Are the drivers for your current GPU up to date? It seems to me that you should really be getting much better performance than you indicate, even with a low-end card like yours. My PC performed much better on low settings with my integrated 4000-series Intel graphics processor before my GTX660 arrived. Your 7450 is mediocre, but you should be able to play perfectly well on lower settings.

Edited by Padre902, 21 October 2014 - 10:00 AM.

[Rawkstar]

Hey Goose, does this help with the height issue? http://s28.postimg.o...zv1/photo_5.jpg ..I'll have to check in for the volts.

[Goose]

Yeah: Looks full height to me.

I blame HP for the inaccurate photo of the card …

So: It behooves us to figure out if the PSU is standard or not, and which standard; If the 12V is half-descent, maybe get a card that comes with Molex-to-PCI-E adaptors …

Edited by Goose, 21 October 2014 - 10:22 AM.

[Rawkstar]

Yup all drivers up to date

Edit: All shame is out the window now - where do I find PSU info again?

...and, will this fit? If so, I am in: gtx 760 Just buy one of this bad boys, [color="#b27204"][color="#b27204"]http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814127745[/color][/color] $200.


Also, does this help with voltage?

Motherboard

Manufacturer Foxconn
Model 2ADA (CPU 1)
Chipset Vendor Intel
Chipset Model Ivy Bridge
Chipset Revision 09
Southbridge Vendor Intel
Southbridge Model H61
Southbridge Revision B3
System Temperature 28 °C

BIOS
Brand AMI
Version 7.12
Date 07/06/2012

Voltage
CPU CORE 2.220 V
MEMORY CONTROLLER 2.220 V
+3.3V 2.028 V
+5V 2.802 V
+12V 8.880 V
-12V (8.880) V
-5V (8.880) V
+5V HIGH THRESHOLD 2.722 V
CMOS BATTERY 1.656 V

PCI Data

Slot PCI
Slot Type PCI
Slot Usage In Use
Data lanes x16
Slot Designation PCI Express x16 Slot
Characteristics 3.3V, Shared, PME
Slot Number 0

Slot PCI
Slot Type PCI
Slot Usage Available
Data lanes x1
Slot Designation PCI Express x1 Slot #1
Characteristics 3.3V, Shared, PME
Slot Number 1

Slot PCI
Slot Type PCI
Slot Usage Available
Data lanes x1
Slot Designation PCI Express x1 Slot #2
Characteristics 3.3V, Shared, PME
Slot Number 2

Slot PCI
Slot Type PCI
Slot Usage In Use
Data lanes x1
Slot Designation PCI Express x1 Slot #3
Characteristics 3.3V, Shared, PME
Slot Number 3

Slot PCI-E
Slot Type PCI-E
Slot Usage In Use
Data lanes x1
Slot Designation Mini Card Slot
Characteristics 3.3V, Shared, PME
Slot Number 4

Edited by Rawkstar, 21 October 2014 - 10:44 AM.

[Goose]

Na: I'm looking for the sticker on the PSU, kind'a like this one.

[Goose]

And now that I look back at your first photo, I see a small pile of lose power patches: Think you can ID any and all of them?

[Rawkstar]

Try this: http://postimg.org/image/523vye4sp/


If this jives, based on power, slots, etc - I am going for it. Is this a safe bet?

gtx 760 Just buy one of this bad boys, [color="#b27204"][color="#b27204"][color="#b27204"]http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814127745[/color][/color][/color] $200.

[Flapdrol]

Too bad the 960 isn't out yet.

[Lord Letto]

according to the link in the OP:
HP Pavilion HPE h8-1227
MOBO: Joshua-H61-uATX(Joshua)(Made by Foxconn)
CPU: Intel i5 3450 (3.1GHz, 3.5GHz Turbo) Quad Core
RAM: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz
GPU: Radeon HD 7450 & Intel HD Graphics
HDD: 1TB SATA 7200RPM
CASE: Mid-size ATX with 2 5.25" and 2 3.5" Drive Bays
PSU: 460W (100V-240V)(100-127V/3A(50-60Hz),200-240V/2A(50-60Hz))
OS: Windows 7 HP 64 Bit SP1

Edited by Lord Letto, 21 October 2014 - 11:32 AM.

[Goose]

"supports Windows 7 & 8"

http://www.cputopia....wer-supply.html

ATX, 85 x 150 x 140 (mm, all) with one PCI-E 6 pin

http://www.hpq-parts.com/pca246

https://www.google.c...fox&channel=nts

Your photo says 360W across the three 12V rails, but I'm not SMRT enough figure out if that means the amperage ever comes up short.

The conservative thing to do is use the PCI-E as the limit: R9 270s seem to be the biggest ATI asking for only one 6-pin'r; I've found one nVidia 760 with a single patch, but it was an 8-pin.

I guess once we had the photos, the 750 Ti was the lowest common denominator, but I think you'll do better with the R9 270 …

[ztac]

Well you are in the right direction for going for a new GPU.

The length and width are also important as if it is too big it will not fit your case.

And like people say you need to check your power supply will have enough wattage and that it also has the correct power connectors.

My GTX 760 for instance requires a 6 pin and 8 pin power connector. Your old card does not look like it uses any of these, so you may very well need a new power supply too. As a rule of thumb don't go for a cheap model. It is usually a good idea to try to find a decently priced one that has LAB reviews attached.

Edited by ztac, 21 October 2014 - 11:56 AM.

[Lord Letto]

I came up with the build in PCPartPicker, 6450 instead of 7450, came to estimated Wattage of 193W, website says 460W so 460W-193W=267, just to be safe I divided that by 2 and came up with 133.5W, so I checked PCPartPicker for 130W and less cards like the 750TI/660 & 6970/7850/265 & Higher with 2GB+ VRAM, it came up with the 750TI & 7850 (60W for 750TI, 130W for 7850), if it is a 360W and not 460W, then using my formula it would be 83.5W instead of 133.5W so take the 7850 Off the board and say get a 750TI, cheapest is a EVGA 750TI 2GB FTW ACX for $130@Newegg, $110 after $20 MIR & Free Shipping: http://pcpartpicker....ard-02gp43757kr

Edited by Lord Letto, 21 October 2014 - 12:07 PM.

[Flapdrol]

Maybe an elcheapo secondhand 7850?

Anyway, with the stock psu a 2GB 750Ti is much safer. Not the fastest, but it easily beats my old gtx470, which had absolutely no problems with this game.

[ninjitsu]

Flapdrol, on 21 October 2014 - 12:06 PM, said:

Maybe an elcheapo secondhand 7850?

Anyway, with the stock psu a 2GB 750Ti is much safer. Not the fastest, but it easily beats my old gtx470, which had absolutely no problems with this game.

I already linked an R9 270 for under $100

[Catamount]

360W/12V=30A

Can that PSU actually deliver 30A on its 12V rails? I highly, highly, highly doubt it. Get another one.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Catamount, on 21 October 2014 - 01:05 PM, said:

360W/12V=30A

Can that PSU actually deliver 30A on its 12V rails? I highly, highly, highly doubt it. Get another one.

With capacitor aging on an OEM PSU hell no.

[Colby Boucher]

One thing I'd like to add is that you might want to look into getting a better fan for your CPU. Stock fans tend to be inadequate for gaming sessions, and I could see your processor cooking after a while with that fan.

[Goose]

Catamount, on 21 October 2014 - 01:05 PM, said:

360W/12V=30A

Can that PSU actually deliver 30A on its 12V rails? I highly, highly, highly doubt it. Get another one.

Yeah, shore; But across three asymmetrical rails?

OK: The idea was a R9 270 could use the stock PSU … has failed!

Spoiler

An R7 265 would fit easily, using a total of 26.9A …

Or did I miss something on this box?