To Mount Ams Or To Not Mount Ams...
#1
Posted 22 October 2014 - 03:48 PM
Whenever I take it off my mechs I immediately feel the lack. But, with the amount of LRMs flying around in some matches, I just burn through the ton or two of ammo I brought and then I feel like the weight I devoted to it was wasted and possibly better-used on more weapons.
It feels like AMS is just a delaying tactic, since it can't totally shoot down anything but the smallest volleys.
Do you or don't you mount AMS, and why or why not?
#2
Posted 22 October 2014 - 04:14 PM
that said, I have recently tried ECM mechs, and those i have been leaving it off and not noticing. But over all, i just feel it is an added cushion of protection, + when you stack them with other peoples AMS, they can really knock off a ton of damage and save someone's butt.
this is all PUG experience though, I'd guess groups have a much different opinion on the matter. that said, It seems like now, since the free atlas+ cent, there are lots less missiles flying, so if you want to try removing it, now is the time to see how ya do
#3
Posted 22 October 2014 - 04:37 PM
#4
Posted 23 October 2014 - 08:56 AM
It can help a teammate that's trying to get behind cover but it won't do anything for that 53 kph silly person that's standing out in the open.
#5
Posted 23 October 2014 - 10:50 AM
#6
Posted 23 October 2014 - 11:26 AM
Mediums: If you go under 80 KPH.
Heavies: Yes.
Assaults: Two if you can.
#7
Posted 03 November 2014 - 11:23 AM
#8
Posted 03 November 2014 - 11:30 AM
If I have two tons of AMS ammo and I run out (usually two AMS installed) than for sure it was worth it! Even one ton is worth it! If the match ends and I am at max AMS it was not...oh well. Insurance doesn't always pay off!
Remember, you don't have to be the target for AMS to be useful.
Happy hunting!
Edited by Gorgo7, 03 November 2014 - 11:32 AM.
#9
Posted 03 November 2014 - 05:55 PM
I try to run AMS on my heavier mechs and have played around with my triple AMS Kit Fox (thought three tons of equipment that an ECM Kit Fox doesn't really need can hurt a build's personal performance), but I generally use it more on builds that have a range weakness. When I'm running dual AMS on my Summoner I try to put myself in the role of assault escort to keep my team's Atlases or Dire Wolves from dying as quickly to LRM vomit.
#10
Posted 03 November 2014 - 08:36 PM
Edited by Daoa Hakoke, 03 November 2014 - 08:37 PM.
#11
Posted 04 November 2014 - 07:49 AM
If I do mount it, it's because:
- I can't fit/don't need any more DHS.
- I don't any more weapon ammo.
- I can't up the engine instead.
#12
Posted 04 November 2014 - 07:53 AM
Tahribator, on 04 November 2014 - 07:49 AM, said:
Yeah, this is the conclusion I came to. But nothing's going to change unless we change it, right? So I went ahead and decided to fit AMS to all my mechs. Some games it's wasted tonnage, but in others it's useful, and every once in a while I get a team with 6+ AMS and then it becomes really nice.
1.5 tons doesn't seem like a whole lot to sacrifice (granted, I don't have any IS light mechs right now, they'd probably be a bit more of a tight fit), and hell, I spend 4 tons on my Kit Foxes (triple AMS and 2.5 tons ammo) but that's kind of their thing.
#13
Posted 04 November 2014 - 01:08 PM
#14
Posted 04 November 2014 - 01:20 PM
In matches where the sky was blocked out by LRM rain the combined AMS systems of several mechs didn't even make the smallest difference
But that was against a group of 8, with 2 dedicated tag/narc spotters, 4 missile boats, 2 supporters with at least some LRM's and I swear a whole lot of arty
And in matches where you only have like 1 or 2 missile boats you don't need ams, only cover, flanking and teamwork
Now if you ask me if target deprivation and some ecm would be nice?
Well
MisterPlanetarian, on 04 November 2014 - 01:08 PM, said:
I've had matches in group que where everyone's AMS ran dry within the first 2 minutes, and the enemy had still missiles left
#15
Posted 04 November 2014 - 01:30 PM
#16
Posted 04 November 2014 - 09:12 PM
MisterPlanetarian, on 04 November 2014 - 01:08 PM, said:
You can toggle it (with tilde - that's the ~ next to the 1 on QWERTY keyboards)
#17
Posted 04 November 2014 - 09:15 PM
#18
Posted 04 November 2014 - 09:17 PM
#20
Posted 04 November 2014 - 10:32 PM
... and i feel a little more saver with it when i have to run from cover to cover...
and i think its a must for slow heavies and assaults or even mediums
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