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#1 Chapman

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Posted 26 November 2014 - 01:55 PM

So to put it simply. I had my 4G, AC 20+3 Tons ammo, 3 MLAS, Ferro, Endo and Double Heats. STD 200 Engine, no AMS.

I stripped it. Trying something new.

Tried to re-equip my old loadout....I now cannot load 3 tons of ammo and have enough HS to launch?

Wtf did I do?

I also have less armour than before and I still can't make everything fit.

#2 TercieI

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Posted 26 November 2014 - 01:57 PM

There were two add'l HS in there. You're required to have ten and a STD200 only has eight.

If you've loaded all of that, you can fit a STD250 which has ten and moves much faster too.

Edit: welcome to MWO and I recommend specing all builds on Smurfy, here: http://mwo.smurfy-net.de

Edited by Terciel1976, 26 November 2014 - 01:59 PM.


#3 Chapman

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Posted 26 November 2014 - 02:00 PM

So I must have been running 2 MLAS and 1 SLAS and just assuming it was 3 meds I guess.

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Posted 26 November 2014 - 02:01 PM

View PostChapman, on 26 November 2014 - 02:00 PM, said:

So I must have been running 2 MLAS and 1 SLAS and just assuming it was 3 meds I guess.


That's possible. That's the stock loadout, IIRC.

#5 Chapman

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Posted 26 November 2014 - 02:01 PM

Well, to put it simply, you can't load 3 MLAS with AC20 and 3 tons of ammo without a 250 right?

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Posted 26 November 2014 - 02:02 PM

View PostChapman, on 26 November 2014 - 02:01 PM, said:

Well, to put it simply, you can't load 3 MLAS with AC20 and 3 tons of ammo without a 250 right?


Sure you can, you just have to add HS.

#7 Chapman

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Posted 26 November 2014 - 02:05 PM

I wasn't descriptive enough. I added the 200 STD as I could not afford the 250. Kept the stock engine. AC 20 w/ 3 tons ammo, 3 MLAS, 1 DBL HS in left torso. 8 in STD 200 plus 2 for the double. I then run out of criticals. Is there something I am doing wrong. I could have sworn it was 3 MLAS with the AC20. I just wans't paying attention before I stripped it.

I need 11 HS to drop.

Edited by Chapman, 26 November 2014 - 02:05 PM.


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Posted 26 November 2014 - 02:05 PM

With Ferro-Fibrous+Endo you can load up AC/20 with 3 tons of ammo, 3 medium lasers and 260 engine with little trouble (cutting down on leg armor-everyone and their mothers are shooting your hunch, anyway).

Edit: If you really have to use the 200 engine, you will need to get rid of ferro-fibrous armor first. Otherwise, there is just no way to make it go with 3 meds and 3 tons of AC/20 ammo. If you downgrade to normal armor, I'd suggest putting in a large laser, because you end up with about 4 tons leftover.

Edited by Yankesik, 26 November 2014 - 02:10 PM.


#9 Chapman

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Posted 26 November 2014 - 02:07 PM

I know the loadout, even trying to re-equip with guides. It is saying I am running out of slots before I can recreate the build, or I don't have enough heatsinks to launch.

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Posted 26 November 2014 - 02:10 PM

View PostChapman, on 26 November 2014 - 02:07 PM, said:

I know the loadout, even trying to re-equip with guides. It is saying I am running out of slots before I can recreate the build, or I don't have enough heatsinks to launch.


Ach! Yeah. You're right. FF eats your space and with the 200 you need six free crits for two DHS that are inside the STD250

This is pretty much where you're at. This is roughly how it looks with the STD250. The difference is the two DHS embedded in the 250 engine (10 total) vs. the 200 (8 total).

Edited by Terciel1976, 26 November 2014 - 02:13 PM.


#11 Chapman

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Posted 26 November 2014 - 02:11 PM

Ok, there's my issue....added the ferro armour before having the appropriate engine. Made it unplayable for now. I'll just run some other mechs until I can afford the 250.


Thanks for the quick replies!

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Posted 26 November 2014 - 02:12 PM

Ferro-fibrous+Endosteel+245std+4tonns ammo+2ml+full armour=87km/h with( +10%speed), 28 shells and very hardy.

#13 TercieI

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Posted 26 November 2014 - 02:15 PM

View PostChapman, on 26 November 2014 - 02:11 PM, said:

Ok, there's my issue....added the ferro armour before having the appropriate engine. Made it unplayable for now. I'll just run some other mechs until I can afford the 250.


Thanks for the quick replies!


Yeah. Probably the right course. You're welcome and good luck!

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Posted 26 November 2014 - 02:18 PM

View PostChapman, on 26 November 2014 - 02:05 PM, said:

I wasn't descriptive enough. I added the 200 STD as I could not afford the 250. Kept the stock engine. AC 20 w/ 3 tons ammo, 3 MLAS, 1 DBL HS in left torso. 8 in STD 200 plus 2 for the double. I then run out of criticals. Is there something I am doing wrong. I could have sworn it was 3 MLAS with the AC20. I just wans't paying attention before I stripped it.

I need 11 HS to drop.


Ah found an error here: you need 10 heat sinks regardless of the type. Doubles don't actually count as double for the minimum of 10 ;)

#15 Chapman

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Posted 26 November 2014 - 02:22 PM

View PostXione87, on 26 November 2014 - 02:18 PM, said:

Ah found an error here: you need 10 heat sinks regardless of the type. Doubles don't actually count as double for the minimum of 10 ;)



Seems rational :S





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