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#13121 CK16

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 11:13 PM

Well #17 and #18 are done!

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#13122 Fyrwulf

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 12:34 AM

View PostNavid A1, on 02 May 2016 - 03:33 AM, said:


Just checked the black lanner....

and OMG... it has MASC... please NO...NO..NO NO...
Not another Sh* medium with useless locked equipment

MASC is a recipe for failure on a medium.


Did you look at the Black Lanner A? I guarantee you won't see anything else on a recon mission in FW from the Clans if that comes out. It's also one of the few Clan mechs I'd buy for PUGing. Same goes for the Linebacker.

#13123 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 02:38 AM

The announced Night Gyr does not appeal to me. It looks like a good representation of what was a bad looking mech to begin with. I know Alex did what he could, but it still looks like a walking green lumpy bag of potatoes to me.

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 02:43 AM

View PostFLG 01, on 04 May 2016 - 09:16 PM, said:

Sure: Von Rohrs (Hebi).
As you guessed, 65tons with 1xPPC, 1xLRM10, 1xflamer.
http://www.sarna.net...28BattleMech%29

A bit strange to see them in the 1st SW, but who knows...

I was guessing the Merlin (even if the legs were very different and the LRM is a 5)...

BTW, never heard about this Von Rohrs...

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 05:13 AM

View PostOdanan, on 05 May 2016 - 02:43 AM, said:

I was guessing the Merlin (even if the legs were very different and the LRM is a 5)...

BTW, never heard about this Von Rohrs...

Strum would have, instantly, I'm sure. I'm pretty much a walking Btech encyclopedia, but I admit that post FanPro, and into the CGL era, my knowledge is spotty at best. Too many retcons, etc for me to realyl like. And of course, I despise the Jihad/Dark Age settings.

But if they are going to give us source material for SLDF-Clan INvasion era, more and more, I'll start buying again. I did buy this one already, and am enjoying it. Not as much as a First Edition House Book, but close.

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 05 May 2016 - 02:38 AM, said:

The announced Night Gyr does not appeal to me. It looks like a good representation of what was a bad looking mech to begin with. I know Alex did what he could, but it still looks like a walking green lumpy bag of potatoes to me.

It's mr staypuft

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 05:21 AM

I'd rather take the Staypuft Marshmallow Man into combat lol.

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 11:22 AM

Kurita didn't have a great track record with it's first two 'Mechs. The Gladiator was blamed for poor military performance and canned, and the Von Rohrs took it on the chin thanks to political reasons.

You can still see the echoes of those designs in the Dragon, though.

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 11:49 AM

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and enter the First Succession War NUseen designs.

-Locust I wish was a little wider at the arms, like the MWO version.
-Wasp is pretty perfect as it
-Valkyrie I don't like the pointy chin, but otherwise, nicely done
-Love the Shadowhawk but feel the round calves don't match the flow of the rest of the design
-And Wolverine is pretty much perfect, IMO. I way prefer it to the MWO version. Maybe I'd bulk the calves up more like the SHDs, but that's a pretty minor quibble (as all of the ones I mentioned are, really). LOVE the 3050 TRO rounded thighs.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 05 May 2016 - 11:50 AM.


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Posted 05 May 2016 - 11:52 AM

Come on dude, don't post those pictures here, the book's pretty new - people should buy it!

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 11:56 AM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 05 May 2016 - 11:52 AM, said:

Come on dude, don't post those pictures here, the book's pretty new - people should buy it!

book is a heck of a lot more than 5 pictures. If that's all a person is paying for, they got issues. I would venture those who would just pirate it, will do so, regardless, and if anything, those on the fence about actualyl buying it are more likely too now.

But those who just want the NUseen pics? Almost 100% would not actualyl buy the book in the first place. It's not like we're talking posting the contents of a 60 unit TRO.

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 12:01 PM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 05 May 2016 - 02:38 AM, said:

The announced Night Gyr does not appeal to me. It looks like a good representation of what was a bad looking mech to begin with. I know Alex did what he could, but it still looks like a walking green lumpy bag of potatoes to me.


Night Gyr reminds me of the Kodiak with the huge shoulders and hunkered-down head, and the high-held arms, lik it's keeping its head down and arms up while walking through waist-deep water and expecting incoming fire.

Kintaro's less pronouncedly so in the head and shoulders, but it's actually the first resemblance I keyed in on when I saw the concept art for the Night Gyr.

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 12:05 PM

View PostVirlutris, on 05 May 2016 - 12:01 PM, said:


Night Gyr reminds me of the Kodiak with the huge shoulders and hunkered-down head, and the high-held arms, lik it's keeping its head down and arms up while walking through waist-deep water and expecting incoming fire.

Kintaro's less pronouncedly so in the head and shoulders, but it's actually the first resemblance I keyed in on when I saw the concept art for the Night Gyr.


Crazy thing is, I like the Kodiak! I'll admit a preorder crossed my mind a couple of times for that mech. The Night Gyr...nah, doesn't do it for me at all.

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 12:13 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 05 May 2016 - 11:56 AM, said:

book is a heck of a lot more than 5 pictures. If that's all a person is paying for, they got issues. I would venture those who would just pirate it, will do so, regardless, and if anything, those on the fence about actualyl buying it are more likely too now.

But those who just want the NUseen pics? Almost 100% would not actualyl buy the book in the first place. It's not like we're talking posting the contents of a 60 unit TRO.

I guess you're right.

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 12:17 PM

Canst thou link me to that book please? I am on catalyst games website and I'm not finding it.

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 12:18 PM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 05 May 2016 - 12:05 PM, said:

Crazy thing is, I like the Kodiak! I'll admit a preorder crossed my mind a couple of times for that mech. The Night Gyr...nah, doesn't do it for me at all.

devil is in the details.

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 12:22 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 05 May 2016 - 12:18 PM, said:

devil is in the details.

I thought the Devil was in the Elevator.

The toast falling jelly-side down proves it

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 12:23 PM

View PostCD LoreHammer Lord, on 05 May 2016 - 12:17 PM, said:

Canst thou link me to that book please? I am on catalyst games website and I'm not finding it.

http://www.battlecor...roducts_id=3581

good read, well worth 15 bucks.

BTW would so love to find an online RPG group to play out a first war scenario.

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 01:26 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 05 May 2016 - 12:23 PM, said:

http://www.battlecor...roducts_id=3581

good read, well worth 15 bucks.

BTW would so love to find an online RPG group to play out a first war scenario.

Shame it's only P.D.F a paper copy I'd snap up.

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 01:33 PM

View PostCathy, on 05 May 2016 - 01:26 PM, said:

Shame it's only P.D.F a paper copy I'd snap up.

those are about 35$ usually. Dunno when they'll ship, either (maybe already have?) Thing is, if you don't live in the USA, like me? Finding hardcopies is nigh impossible.

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 10:31 PM

So do you guys feel it is realistic that we got about 12 to 18 more mechs that would be truly worthy before they would need to tap into new mechs and tech? If so what would you guys list these 12 to 18 to be? Realistic here lol we obviously cant get everything out of the TRO's considering there are like 12 left out of the original TRO 3025 left alone!





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