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#1 Wolf Clearwater

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Posted 12 February 2015 - 02:09 PM

The Griffin only has 3 variants in game (4 if you count the Hero: Sparky). The IS also really needs an ECM capable mech between the Atlas and the Cicada. The Griffin-2N is perfect for this, satisfying two needs at once. This model fits into the timeline and current tech; in addition there are already many Shadow Hawk variants, making the Griffin a better choice. This should not be too much trouble to add, since there should be no need to create new geometry.

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The SLDF's Royal Griffin was introduced in 2751 and mounted an ER PPC, two SRM-6 launchers, and a Guardian ECM Suite. The heat-sinks were upgraded to double-strength models and the ammo was protected by CASE. To fit all this, the armor was changed to Ferro-Fibrous and the chassis was made of Endo-Steel.

From: http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Griffin

Propose the following hardpoint locations:
2 Energy in the RA
2 Missile in the LT
1 AMS in the RT
1 ECM in the RT (or LT just like all the other IS ECM)
Max jump jets 7 (same as other griffins)
proposed quirks: none

Edit: alternate hardpoints
2 Energy RA
1 Energy LA
1 Missile LT
1 Missile RT
1 AMS RT
ECM LT

Edited by Wolf Clearwater, 03 March 2015 - 05:25 AM.


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Posted 12 February 2015 - 06:02 PM

ECM heavier than a cicada is really needed, both in CW and regular drops.

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Posted 03 March 2015 - 05:27 AM

With the introduction of Clan Wave III mechs, the Clans will have a large selection and variety of ECM capable mechs in the lighter 3 catagories, which is great. The IS could really use so more ECM capable tonnage selections please.

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 04:52 PM

Agreed, IS needs an ECM in the medium to heavy department. So a Griffin fits well.

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 05:20 PM

I was just thinking the other day that the IS NEEDS a heavy ECM mech. (The Clans, meanwhile, need an Assault ECM mech)

Depending on how they define the calendar... the Bandersnatch would make a great addition to the game as well. Technically it went into production in 3052, but, technically, there weren't any Highlanders or King Crabs on the field really either :P (Not counting Comstar)

A nice, 75 ton mech, with ECM, will put those Hellbringers in their place!

Plus... it looks badass!

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http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Bandersnatch

Edited by Twilight Fenrir, 22 March 2015 - 05:22 PM.


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Posted 22 March 2015 - 08:46 PM

ECM Griff sounds like a great idea. +1

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Posted 23 March 2015 - 12:53 AM

Being a Griffin pilot myself, I wholeheartedly agree. The Griff can fill the role of another (much needed) ECM Medium,

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Posted 23 March 2015 - 01:07 AM

+1
I'd love to have another Griffin to pilot, ECM would be the icing on the cake :)

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Posted 23 March 2015 - 01:24 AM

I also agree that we really need some further ECM support for the IS. Having a heavy ECM mech makes a lot of difference for the clans in my oppinion. Clan CW decks are basically overflowing with ECM right now, and it will only get worse with Wave 3 while we are stuck with 5 light ECM mechs (including the Cicada) and the 100 ton Atlas.
An ECM Griffin would sure be a step in the right direction, but a heavy class mech would also be greatly appriciated.

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Posted 23 March 2015 - 07:18 AM

Agreed. This Mech is needed.

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Posted 23 March 2015 - 08:03 AM

I agree, a heavy ECM for the IS would be great too, but I really want to see the griffin. Plus, PGI would not even have to create any additional modeling, hopefully reducing the amount of effort to implement it. I would even be happy to see it come in like the Clan Reinforcements (available in gift store first, cbills and mc a month later).

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Posted 23 March 2015 - 09:12 AM

Agreed +1

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Posted 23 March 2015 - 09:58 AM

+1

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 07:31 PM

good idea man

#15 Wolf Clearwater

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Posted 26 March 2015 - 05:59 AM

View PostTwilight Fenrir, on 22 March 2015 - 05:20 PM, said:

I was just thinking the other day that the IS NEEDS a heavy ECM mech. (The Clans, meanwhile, need an Assault ECM mech)

Depending on how they define the calendar... the Bandersnatch would make a great addition to the game as well. Technically it went into production in 3052, but, technically, there weren't any Highlanders or King Crabs on the field really either :P (Not counting Comstar)

A nice, 75 ton mech, with ECM, will put those Hellbringers in their place!

Plus... it looks badass!

Posted Image

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Bandersnatch


Not a bad idea, maybe we could be lucky enough to get both :D

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Posted 26 March 2015 - 06:14 AM

View PostWolf Clearwater, on 26 March 2015 - 05:59 AM, said:


Not a bad idea, maybe we could be lucky enough to get both :D



Both Mechs sounds good :)

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Posted 26 March 2015 - 08:24 AM

Definite vote for! :)

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Posted 26 March 2015 - 08:59 AM

View PostTwilight Fenrir, on 22 March 2015 - 05:20 PM, said:

I was just thinking the other day that the IS NEEDS a heavy ECM mech. (The Clans, meanwhile, need an Assault ECM mech)

Depending on how they define the calendar... the Bandersnatch would make a great addition to the game as well. Technically it went into production in 3052, but, technically, there weren't any Highlanders or King Crabs on the field really either :P (Not counting Comstar)

A nice, 75 ton mech, with ECM, will put those Hellbringers in their place!

Plus... it looks badass!

Posted Image

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Bandersnatch

Ugh, low mounted arm weapons.

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Posted 28 March 2015 - 12:02 AM

View PostWolf Clearwater, on 12 February 2015 - 02:09 PM, said:

The Griffin only has 3 variants in game (4 if you count the Hero: Sparky). The IS also really needs an ECM capable mech between the Atlas and the Cicada. The Griffin-2N is perfect for this, satisfying two needs at once. This model fits into the timeline and current tech; in addition there are already many Shadow Hawk variants, making the Griffin a better choice. This should not be too much trouble to add, since there should be no need to create new geometry.

GRF-2N:
The SLDF's Royal Griffin was introduced in 2751 and mounted an ER PPC, two SRM-6 launchers, and a Guardian ECM Suite. The heat-sinks were upgraded to double-strength models and the ammo was protected by CASE. To fit all this, the armor was changed to Ferro-Fibrous and the chassis was made of Endo-Steel.

From: http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Griffin

Propose the following hardpoint locations:
2 Energy in the RA
2 Missile in the LT
1 AMS in the RT
1 ECM in the RT (or LT just like all the other IS ECM)
Max jump jets 7 (same as other griffins)
proposed quirks: none

Edit: alternate hardpoints
2 Energy RA
1 Energy LA
1 Missile LT
1 Missile RT
1 AMS RT
ECM LT


Hi, i think the simplest way are to keep the standart Grifin 1 N hardpoints or the Griffin 3 M with additional ECM hardpoint.

Greets Niamad

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Posted 28 March 2015 - 01:00 AM

Such a mech shouldn't just be the same as another varient because without serious quirks the non-ECM mech would be obsolete. This mech needs its own hard point setup.





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