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#21 Joe Decker

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Posted 25 February 2015 - 05:26 PM

View Postpwnface, on 25 February 2015 - 05:14 PM, said:


We recognize that not everyone in Marik is hungry for a war with Kurita, it's too bad the relationship between our two factions has reached this point. I know a lot of Seraphim pilots feels like they were mistreated when they took a vacation in Kurita space but I believe this was mostly due to the lack of communication between our respective organizations (and forum trolling which people need to stop taking seriously).


Or stop the Trolls. What about that ? A bit Taunting is not the Issue really. We had that with Davion before, when they still had a big Mouth and were outnumbering us 4 to 1. But don't think you gather Sympathy Points with trolling - it will end in War at some Point. So think twice. I also get the Feeling many of Kurita are rational as it should be. That is a Basis where we could start again.

Heading out now.

cu Dracs. :)

Edited by Joe Decker, 25 February 2015 - 05:28 PM.


#22 pwnface

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Posted 25 February 2015 - 05:34 PM

View PostJoe Decker, on 25 February 2015 - 05:26 PM, said:


Or stop the Trolls. What about that ? A bit Taunting is not the Issue really. We had that with Davion before, when they still had a big Mouth and were outnumbering us 4 to 1. But don't think you gather Sympathy Points with trolling - it will end in War at some Point. So think twice. I also get the Feeling many of Kurita are rational as it should be. That is a Basis where we could start again.

Heading out now.

cu Dracs. :)


We can not and will not restrict HK players from voicing their opinions publicly. People can say whatever they want, only DCMS council announcements determine our actual policy. If certain players have poor forum etiquette or are upsetting people it is the price we must pay for freedom of speech.

This is akin to North Korea going to war against the US for allowing people to produce and watch "The Interview". If you don't like, it don't read/watch it. If you want to start a war over it, we won't back down from our principles. If the only reason we are fighting is because someone said something on the internet that was upsetting, that is quite silly.

Edited by pwnface, 25 February 2015 - 05:35 PM.


#23 Mycrus

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Posted 25 February 2015 - 05:55 PM

View PostTime Bandit, on 25 February 2015 - 04:57 PM, said:


What "Kuritan War Rhetoric" are you talking about? This thread is basically saying "don't start nothing, won't be nothing" to Marik, and we will keep on happily kicking the clans to the curb.


Check the other threadnaughts

View Postpwnface, on 25 February 2015 - 05:14 PM, said:


We recognize that not everyone in Marik is hungry for a war with Kurita, it's too bad the relationship between our two factions has reached this point. I know a lot of Seraphim pilots feels like they were mistreated when they took a vacation in Kurita space but I believe this was mostly due to the lack of communication between our respective organizations (and forum trolling which people need to stop taking seriously).


"Vacation"

Even when you aren't trolling you are trolling

10/10

Edited by Mycrus, 25 February 2015 - 05:55 PM.


#24 pwnface

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Posted 25 February 2015 - 05:57 PM

View PostMycrus, on 25 February 2015 - 05:55 PM, said:

Check the other threadnaughts



"Vacation"

Even when you aren't trolling you are trolling

10/10


Business trip? How would you like me to phrase the concept that Seraphim came to House Kurita for 1 week?

#25 MischiefSC

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Posted 25 February 2015 - 05:57 PM

We've got other threads for the trash talk and rehashing stuff. It would be cool if we an keep this one on topic and semi official.

#26 Mycrus

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Posted 25 February 2015 - 05:58 PM

View Postpwnface, on 25 February 2015 - 05:57 PM, said:


Business trip? How would you like me to phrase the concept that Seraphim came to House Kurita for 1 week?


How about "deployed"..

Wordz.

#27 Davers

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Posted 25 February 2015 - 06:04 PM

View PostMischiefSC, on 25 February 2015 - 05:57 PM, said:

We've got other threads for the trash talk and rehashing stuff. It would be cool if we an keep this one on topic and semi official.

If Marik players would like to discuss this thread, I would suggest internal forums. If Liao or Steiner wants to discuss this thread, feel free to use your own forums, or create a new thread in this one. Trolling 'official communiques' is not really a good start to any future dialogue.

#28 pwnface

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Posted 25 February 2015 - 06:05 PM

View PostMischiefSC, on 25 February 2015 - 05:57 PM, said:

We've got other threads for the trash talk and rehashing stuff. It would be cool if we an keep this one on topic and semi official.


Thanks MischiefSC !

#29 Noaceik

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Posted 25 February 2015 - 06:07 PM

Not everyone in Mariks leadership is still set for war. Yet, if war does come from the vote we will be willing to take on all your forces even if we end up losing more planets then we take. If we have to, we will be the ones who humble you, because all your other borders will collapse. You can ask the Davions what that is like. Why do you think they lost there rank as the best IS faction? When you lose around 8 planets a day your numbers will dwindle.

War with you would be to just to humble you as we did to the Davions and to the clans. We defeated most of there comp teams, us simple house Marik loyalists. Our loyal Mercs are even better then we are.

#30 pwnface

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Posted 25 February 2015 - 06:29 PM

View PostNoaceik, on 25 February 2015 - 06:07 PM, said:

Not everyone in Mariks leadership is still set for war. Yet, if war does come from the vote we will be willing to take on all your forces even if we end up losing more planets then we take. If we have to, we will be the ones who humble you, because all your other borders will collapse. You can ask the Davions what that is like. Why do you think they lost there rank as the best IS faction? When you lose around 8 planets a day your numbers will dwindle.

War with you would be to just to humble you as we did to the Davions and to the clans. We defeated most of there comp teams, us simple house Marik loyalists. Our loyal Mercs are even better then we are.


Davion and Kurita are not the same, if Marik chooses to declare war on Kurita we will not care if we lose all of our worlds as long as we are capable of fighting Marik.

Don't underestimate the level of skill House Kurita units possess, no Davion team has ever challenged you the way that we will. We've been fighting against extremely competitive units (JGx, MS, CGBI, SA, SJR etc) fielding clan mechs for a long time now with relative success.

Look at the map of the Inner Sphere, how many planets has Kurita lost since CW beta started? Mechwarriors have not left our faction because we are bleeding planets, in fact those who crave a good fight flock to us because of our multiple open fronts. The DCMS is stronger than ever right now.

We can argue until we are blue in the face about who would win in an all out war with Kurita vs Marik but there is only one way to prove it. Marik and Kurita are the two biggest kids on the block within the Inner Sphere right now, the clans would face virtually no opposition if we are both preoccupied. The issue at hand is if Marik is willing to let the rest of the Inner Sphere burn to go to war with us, because that is precisely what would happen.

That being said, the Dragon is happy for a fight no matter who it is against.

#31 Molossian Dog

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Posted 25 February 2015 - 06:49 PM

View Postpwnface, on 25 February 2015 - 06:29 PM, said:

Davion and Kurita are not the same, if Marik chooses to declare war on Kurita we will not care if we lose all of our worlds as long as we are capable of fighting Marik.

Don't underestimate the level of skill House Kurita units possess, no Davion team has ever challenged you the way that we will. We've been fighting against extremely competitive units (JGx, MS, CGBI, SA, SJR etc) fielding clan mechs for a long time now with relative success.
...

Waitaminute. Which faction threw a hussy fit because of "OMGWTF THREATS! NO RESPECT!"?

Oh, now I remember.

View Postpwnface, on 25 February 2015 - 05:11 PM, said:

When did we try to "seduce liao to our side"?? I personally reached out on the forums to see what the best way to contact them was although I haven't actually talked to ANYONE from Liao leadership. ...


Ha ha ha ha

Edited by Molossian Dog, 25 February 2015 - 06:49 PM.


#32 pwnface

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Posted 25 February 2015 - 07:01 PM

I'm pretty sure that is a warning not a threat. There is significant difference between the two ideas.

"Join nSL or we will fight you" is a threat.

"If you go to war with us we will throw everything we have at you" is a warning.

#33 Molossian Dog

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Posted 25 February 2015 - 07:06 PM

Snake can´t even read.

Good thing thread is still there for people to check if there was a
"Join nSL or we will fight you"

Snake propaganda needs improvement

Ha ha ha ha

Edited by Molossian Dog, 25 February 2015 - 07:06 PM.


#34 pwnface

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Posted 25 February 2015 - 07:13 PM

Actually, Ilithi Dragon and Valar13 both eluded to as much. The attempted Marik attack against Kurita appears to be the realization of that very threat. At least that's how it looks to us.

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Posted 25 February 2015 - 07:15 PM

View Postpwnface, on 25 February 2015 - 07:13 PM, said:

Actually, Ilithi Dragon and Valar13 both eluded to as much. The attempted Marik attack against Kurita appears to be the realization of that very threat. At least that's how it looks to us.

LOL, yeah, that was the reason :rolleyes:

#36 pwnface

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Posted 25 February 2015 - 07:18 PM

That was one of the reasons stated on the "declaration of war" that was leaked. Marik and nSL are pretty much synonymous to us.

#37 Molossian Dog

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Posted 25 February 2015 - 07:19 PM

View Postpwnface, on 25 February 2015 - 07:13 PM, said:

Actually, Ilithi Dragon and Valar13 both eluded to as much. The attempted Marik attack against Kurita appears to be the realization of that very threat. At least that's how it looks to us.


You know what your post eludes to?


"Oh ****. Too much heat. Better act like the bigger man. (while still thumbing our noses at Marik) Even if it fails, we can blame Marik for Kurita loosing Terra"



Ha ha ha ha

Edited by Molossian Dog, 25 February 2015 - 07:20 PM.


#38 pwnface

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Posted 25 February 2015 - 07:22 PM

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I see no point in trying to convince you otherwise.

#39 Karl Marlow

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Posted 25 February 2015 - 07:22 PM

View Postpwnface, on 25 February 2015 - 06:29 PM, said:



Davion and Kurita are not the same, if Marik chooses to declare war on Kurita we will not care if we lose all of our worlds as long as we are capable of fighting Marik.

Don't underestimate the level of skill House Kurita units possess, no Davion team has ever challenged you the way that we will. We've been fighting against extremely competitive units (JGx, MS, CGBI, SA, SJR etc) fielding clan mechs for a long time now with relative success.

Look at the map of the Inner Sphere, how many planets has Kurita lost since CW beta started? Mechwarriors have not left our faction because we are bleeding planets, in fact those who crave a good fight flock to us because of our multiple open fronts. The DCMS is stronger than ever right now.

We can argue until we are blue in the face about who would win in an all out war with Kurita vs Marik but there is only one way to prove it. Marik and Kurita are the two biggest kids on the block within the Inner Sphere right now, the clans would face virtually no opposition if we are both preoccupied. The issue at hand is if Marik is willing to let the rest of the Inner Sphere burn to go to war with us, because that is precisely what would happen.

That being said, the Dragon is happy for a fight no matter who it is against.

Are you seriously trying to make an argument for Kuritas skill by pointing out how badly you have been getting creamed? The only time I've seen Luthien since it disappeared behind jaguar lines was when Marik units were helping you out.

#40 Molossian Dog

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Posted 25 February 2015 - 07:24 PM

View Postpwnface, on 25 February 2015 - 07:22 PM, said:

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I see no point in trying to convince you otherwise.

Funny, the same applies to "Join nSL or we will fight you"

Ha ha ha ha

Edited by Molossian Dog, 25 February 2015 - 07:25 PM.






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