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[Green Mamba]

Vassago Rain, on 25 February 2015 - 09:51 PM, said:

Because beta shield.

Or is that the Beta Card that can be played by those who wear the Shiny Armor?

[HellJumper]

Creovex, on 26 February 2015 - 10:20 AM, said:

The best answer regarding you question OP..... "As long as it takes to get it right"

and whats to get right here??? what about all the stuff that needs to be right first..

Hospy, on 26 February 2015 - 11:59 AM, said:

It's just semantics.

War Thunder has been in beta for years and will continue to be in beta for probably several more years.

ya but with warthunder closed beta were run to make sure stuff is working well enough before brining it out on live server.. with WT you knew whats coming (speculation threads), with WT things get changed (balance etc)...whats happening here?/ still have to figure that out (except for addition of more maps)...

Tombstoner, on 26 February 2015 - 01:11 PM, said:

With the addition of CW we officially have entered the beta phase. holding a "launch party" and calling it "finished" is legal jiber jam to fill some contractual obligations. What people have been playing and paying for is an ALPHA.

so we hve played lpha for 3 years..and we will play beta for another few years before its ready to be called a full game?

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

HellJumper, on 25 February 2015 - 09:44 PM, said:

well its a simple question. cause i dont think we are beta testing anything... so why put a beta with its name??

beta in my opinion is something that is work in progress, needs a lot of work to be done on it (balancing, major changes etc)...what we have now is not changes i would say, its more like addition of more and more stuff (maps and game modes that is)..which was happening in live server as well..

so why put a beta on it?

ya i know many of you will say "as long as it takes"...

but being part of beta in a decent number of games i have usually seen things being changed a lot on existing stuff, adding new stuff, changing that stuff and then adding more...

but here all i see is additon of more stuff (which is a good stuff)...so whats happening?

Wasnt that how the game was for the longest time near the end of beta?

Vassago Rain, on 25 February 2015 - 09:51 PM, said:

Because beta shield.

This.

HellJumper, on 25 February 2015 - 09:52 PM, said:

to shield what? i mean we dont see any major development happening in current stuff or future updates (except addition of stuff)

no changes, no development road map for CW (unless i have missed it) so whats to shield?

To shield criticism. When ppl are critical to CW, ppl then go "its beta"

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Till some time after they figure out how to make it so you arent being spawn camped so bad that you cant even ******* POWER UP

Thats pure grade A bullshit right there

[Tombstoner]

HellJumper, on 26 February 2015 - 10:39 PM, said:

so we hve played lpha for 3 years..and we will play beta for another few years before its ready to be called a full game?

Yes http://en.wikipedia....ease_life_cycle The CW cycle i expect to have 3 phases. we have phase one now, 2 more i think are coming involving resources and one other item i cant think of. basically CW's not finished barring any issues it should be finished 9-12 months.

[Vassago Rain]

Tombstoner, on 27 February 2015 - 04:36 AM, said:

Yes http://en.wikipedia....ease_life_cycle The CW cycle i expect to have 3 phases. we have phase one now, 2 more i think are coming involving resources and one other item i cant think of. basically CW's not finished barring any issues it should be finished 9-12 months.

Not very likely, really. We've had the current mess for 70 days. If they knew how to fix it, or wanted to, they'd have done so already.

[HellJumper]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 26 February 2015 - 11:01 PM, said:

Till some time after they figure out how to make it so you arent being spawn camped so bad that you cant even ******* POWER UP

Thats pure grade A bullshit right there

true man...lat night we did it...pug vs pug match.. its sad tbh..

Tombstoner, on 27 February 2015 - 04:36 AM, said:

Yes http://en.wikipedia....ease_life_cycle The CW cycle i expect to have 3 phases. we have phase one now, 2 more i think are coming involving resources and one other item i cant think of. basically CW's not finished barring any issues it should be finished 9-12 months.

umm i thought phase 1 and 2 are already done...and this is phase 3...actual combat between factions and stuff.. finished in 9-12 months... so basically another 1 year of what we have with addition of few more maps (while no map for normal queue)...this wont be good for the game

Vassago Rain, on 27 February 2015 - 04:59 AM, said:

Not very likely, really. We've had the current mess for 70 days. If they knew how to fix it, or wanted to, they'd have done so already.

maybe cause its still not clear what to be fixed? or once its fixed what will happen then?

[Tombstoner]

HellJumper, on 27 February 2015 - 10:47 AM, said:

true man...lat night we did it...pug vs pug match.. its sad tbh..


umm i thought phase 1 and 2 are already done...and this is phase 3...actual combat between factions and stuff.. finished in 9-12 months... so basically another 1 year of what we have with addition of few more maps (while no map for normal queue)...this wont be good for the game



maybe cause its still not clear what to be fixed? or once its fixed what will happen then?

I say activate the guns on the drop ships.

[Jonathan Paine]

Take a deep breath here, CW was introduced slightly more than 2 months ago.

[CDLord HHGD]

The Plan

[Felio]

Divine Retribution, on 25 February 2015 - 10:55 PM, said:

Beta....

I guess I'll be the honest one and call it what it is, the CW alpha phase. Once the rest of the basic pre-planned features are in and only tweaking/bugfixes remain I'll call it a beta.

That's a fair point. Beta software is normally feature complete. CW isn't.

[Sjorpha]

I agree the beta tag is misleading, the correct term before a game is feature complete is alpha.

I don't really care what tag the use, it's just a word. I like the game and i like being part of the process.

[Johnny Z]

Sjorpha, on 27 February 2015 - 04:21 PM, said:

I agree the beta tag is misleading, the correct term before a game is feature complete is alpha.

I don't really care what tag the use, it's just a word. I like the game and i like being part of the process.

Reported for sounding way to optimistic and not a downer.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

lol ppl expect theyll lift the beta tag?

[SilentWolff]

How long will CW be in beta? Well the game is still beta imo, if that gives you any idea.

[Yokaiko]

Tombstoner, on 27 February 2015 - 04:36 AM, said:

Yes http://en.wikipedia....ease_life_cycle The CW cycle i expect to have 3 phases. we have phase one now, 2 more i think are coming involving resources and one other item i cant think of. basically CW's not finished barring any issues it should be finished 9-12 months.

You are smoking something, beta is more or less what "live" is going to be.

Considering CW was a design pillar, the GAME was beta till CW hit the streets.

[HellJumper]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 27 February 2015 - 08:07 PM, said:

lol ppl expect theyll lift the beta tag?

sure why not..they lifted it off the game itself, right?

Yokaiko, on 27 February 2015 - 09:30 PM, said:

You are smoking something, beta is more or less what "live" is going to be.

Considering CW was a design pillar, the GAME was beta till CW hit the streets.

so that means till december last year...the game was beta... yikes

cdlord, on 27 February 2015 - 04:01 PM, said:

The Plan

75% done...lol..

Jonathan Paine, on 27 February 2015 - 02:27 PM, said:

Take a deep breath here, CW was introduced slightly more than 2 months ago.

yup..and announced like 3 years ago

[Tombstoner]

Yokaiko, on 27 February 2015 - 09:30 PM, said:

You are smoking something, beta is more or less what "live" is going to be.

Considering CW was a design pillar, the GAME was beta till CW hit the streets.

Since CW is a design pillar the definition of beta is ALL design pillars are present not necessarily working. Thus the game was an alpha till CW was added. You skipped a head and commented with out reading didn't ya Now pass the pipe back.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Tombstoner, on 28 February 2015 - 06:03 PM, said:

Since CW is a design pillar the definition of beta is ALL design pillars are present not necessarily working. Thus the game was an alpha till CW was added. You skipped a head and commented with out reading didn't ya Now pass the pipe back.

Dont forget, first person view and the game being a sim were a design pillars ... till they werent

[Lulz Kev]

Wait this game made it to beta? I thought we were still doing alpha.