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#1 ThirtyOughtSix

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Posted 03 March 2015 - 08:42 AM

Does anyone know the performance difference between the two for MWO? My SSD is getting full so I am thinking of doing a reinstall to HD to free up room. Thoughts...?

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Posted 03 March 2015 - 08:45 AM

Only performance difference would be loading the map and mech's at the start of the match.
No fps drop so go right ahead.

#3 Voivode

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Posted 03 March 2015 - 08:45 AM

It shouldn't really make a difference for applications that are running already. What it will do is allow things to load up at a faster rate. Once you are in a match your processor, video card, and RAM will be the things that determine the most about your performance.

#4 ilikerice

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Posted 03 March 2015 - 09:05 AM

I've had mwo installed on both and could not tell any difference. My situation was the opposite, my hdd was getting full and I needed to put it on my solid state. The only issue I had was reinstalling with the patcher crashing repeatedly. Make sure you have ample time to reinstall, it took me an entire day.

#5 Agent 0 Fortune

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Posted 03 March 2015 - 10:00 AM

I've been runnin SSD for a couple years, at one time I used to mean I was the first one in the pre-match wait screen, but now it is all randomized (either that or there are a lot more SSD players).

In other games it dramatically lowers level load times, which means I almost never get to read the "hints" developers put on load screens.

#6 Soy

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Posted 03 March 2015 - 10:15 AM

Bought a Raptor recently, loving it.

Last time I ran SSDs they basically died after a couple months of recording to... both. =/

#7 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 03 March 2015 - 10:45 AM

I use SSD for MWO (on same as my OS) and I "feel" it's faster though I have no hard evidence. :)

#8 627

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Posted 03 March 2015 - 11:02 AM

SSD let you win the ready game nearly everytime so you can then spam the chat why people aren't pressing ready.

Every game.

Every stupid foxin game.

Damn it, people... get some SSDs and don't let me wait sooooo long every match...

#9 Xeraphale

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Posted 10 March 2015 - 07:29 AM

If the load time is quicker from a SSD then I'd say it's worth it, especially given how often the game crashes to desktop. Getting back into the game before that pesky light finds your DC'd mech would be priceless.

#10 xWiredx

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Posted 10 March 2015 - 07:55 AM

It won't help much in the CTD scenario because of that ridiculous "connecting" wait right after logging in. The SSD might shave like 1-2 seconds off rejoining, but that really isn't a dire enough situation to validate spending the extra money. If you're building from scratch or replacing a dead drive, sure. Adding one just to get a second or two back once or twice a night? Not really.

Having said that, I really like mine in my desktop. I haven't put the two in my laptop to use yet, but I fully plan on getting that second or two back whenever I reinstall MWO on my laptop.

#11 Flapdrol

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Posted 10 March 2015 - 09:17 AM

SSD's make a massive difference when patching MWO, takes ages on a hdd. Game is only 7GB, so not that much room saved.

Could lower the size of the pagefile or get rid of the hibernate file instead.

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 04:16 PM

View PostHyper99, on 03 March 2015 - 08:42 AM, said:

Does anyone know the performance difference between the two for MWO? My SSD is getting full so I am thinking of doing a reinstall to HD to free up room. Thoughts...?

I just noticed that mine is down to 10% capacity free and is giving a warning. It was only a small SSD, but I noticed that NewEgg has quite a few 500gb SSDs for under $200 and a few terabyte SSDs for about $300. Just ordered a Crucial to replace my old Intel. Hopefully it will be as reliable.

#13 StainlessSR

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Posted 19 March 2015 - 05:33 AM

I upgraded in January from hdd to ssd.

My experience is that I load into a match faster (usually one of the first one's in but I have a low ping also) and patching is way faster (you have to ensure that the patcher uses the ssd also). The patching is slow on a hdd due to the unpacking and repacking of the game files, an ssd greatly increases this process. As to just general gameplay, it does not make a difference for me but I am running an I5 at 4.2Ghtz and stay pegged at my monitor's 60fps both when running off of the hdd and ssd, so in game (once level is loaded) an ssd make absolutely no difference from my experiance.

#14 Lyoto Machida

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Posted 20 March 2015 - 07:41 PM

View PostSoy, on 03 March 2015 - 10:15 AM, said:

Bought a Raptor recently, loving it.

Last time I ran SSDs they basically died after a couple months of recording to... both. =/


Isn't that a downgrade? I went to a Samsung 850 Evo from a 36gb Raptor a few months ago...also had a 300gb VelociRaptor. SSD is much faster than even a 10k rpm HD.

#15 Soy

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Posted 20 March 2015 - 07:53 PM

It's not smart to constantly create and delete huge files on SSD over and over and over (think video recording).

#16 Peter2k

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 05:54 AM

View PostSoy, on 03 March 2015 - 10:15 AM, said:

Bought a Raptor recently, loving it.

Last time I ran SSDs they basically died after a couple months of recording to... both. =/


http://techreport.co...theyre-all-dead

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The last two survivors met their doom on the road to 2.5PB


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The 840 Pro was among the most well-behaved drives in the experiment


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But the 840 Pro wrote the most data, so it deserves to take center stage

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actually thats a lot of writes
even for professional video recording/editing




SSD's are great, but they don't bring more fps
windows feels more snappy, boot time is shorter
I guess a pagefile can be more of use on a SSD, though only if you really have too little RAM

one thing should be noted
if you run Skyrim with loads of mods (think texture sizes/HD mods) it might do a lot for you
or similar games that use streaming in new game content on big "endless" open maps
Far Cry 4 comes to mind too

also since Windows 8 the hibernation file is used for a "faster" boot up time
though with an SSD it might only shave off like a second or 2, not more
if you're squeezed for room its easier to get rid off the hibernation file and the pagefile

Edited by Peter2k, 22 March 2015 - 05:55 AM.


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Posted 22 March 2015 - 06:22 AM

Yeah you're not going to kill a typical SSD with just months of video recording. I read the article Peter2K linked above yesterday myself, and honestly, I'm not sure most platter drives would out-survive an 840 Pro. At even 1PB of data, if you wrote 100GB/day to your drive, it would take you 27 years to wear out the drive. If you wrote 500GB/day, and that basically requires dealing with uncompressed 4k, it would still take over five years to kill that same SSD.

Past 500GB you would probably be using RAID arrays just to not be waiting around all day for your drives to write data, and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to use Raptors at that point either for the same reason.

The trick is just to buy a good SSD. Avoid Sandforce drives because the controllers have a long history of being ticking time bombs and I haven't seen a good enough track record yet to not be leery of them (and there's no reason to preference them), avoid Intel since they have a built-in self destruct, even get a professional level drive if you're really concerned though somehow I doubt you're really going to break a Samsung 850 EVO without some serious effort.

Edited by Catamount, 22 March 2015 - 06:33 AM.


#18 TheStrider

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Posted 18 April 2015 - 05:34 AM

Just buy another SSD, move MWO to it and name it Mechlab. :)

Prices just keep getting better, just make sure to get a good one. I haven't seen an SSD fail in the last 2 years. (Company 100+ people) Not since my run of Vertex 2 failures. (I think I had one Vertex 3 fail...)





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