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#1 Bullseye69

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 04:37 PM

So I have a decent Intel I7 4770K stock clocked with 8gig Gskill 2133mhz ram, 250gig SSD, 60gig SSD, 1 terbyte Seagate Mechanical, 500 Gig WD mechanical , with a 24 inch Samsung monitor. My weak link is the R9 270X XFX graphics card I have. I am thinking of going either R9 290 but there is only one rated Direct x 12 now or a Nvidia GTX 970 card.

So can anyone that owns the 290 or the 970 give me some feedback on what there system can run MWO at I would like to be able to turn up the visual to high on all fronts since the 4770K has the power and I can always over clock it if I need to.

Please anyone give me your feed back.

Best brand of the cards also please

#2 StainlessSR

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 04:42 PM

Hold off till June as AMD is releasing their new R9 390 with HBM memory. Should smoke the R9 290.

#3 Crockdaddy

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 04:50 PM

I recently bough the GTX970 but only because I couldn't wait for the R9 390. The GTX970 is roughly the same as the R290X. GTX970 is more heat efficient (it is newer) and in lower settings is better slightly than the 290X ... the 290X is still better in very high resolution games.

I simply bought the one which had the better sale at the time and the best Game deal (i wasn't the Witcher 3)

#4 Goose

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 04:58 PM

View PostBullseye69, on 23 April 2015 - 04:37 PM, said:

My weak link is the R9 270X XFX graphics card I have.

Um: Could I please get you to prove that?

There's an old like in this community about how you only really need a GTX 660 to "play" this game, and as such, I've been referring to a R7 265 as a cheap way to do that.

I've seen some dailing down of level on an i7-3770/GTX 480, but what are you seeing? And by "seeing," I mean make some log files with HWiNFOxx + FRAPS (or MSI Afterburner, if it's behaving,) then viewed in Generic Log Viewer …

#5 Aznpersuasion89

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 05:06 PM

I really like my g1 970 and actually just ordered my second for sli. But if your thinking about upgrading i would wait for the 390 to come out. The 970 is very heat effiecient. I run at 1555 and never break the 70c mark

#6 Lord Letto

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 05:14 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290X 4GB Tr-X OC Video Card ($279.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $279.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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#7 Gumon Choji

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 05:29 PM

Crossfire 290x here. Same CPU.The CPU is my bottleneck in this game and affect you. It is all that hud system and particles. I turn it off and get dramatically more FPS. But knowing this will help you enjoy the game. If the game used mantle or DX12 the 290x would smoke even the new titan. However Russ said in his last town hall that he would not continue to get updates to the Cry engine due to keeping backwards comparability. This is a way of saying that there is no intention to support 12 or mantle at this moment. Due to this the 290x is not a clear winner. I found that setting this game to the settings for Bioshock also made the game most stable with the best FPS and graphics. The build PGI uses is closest to that game and you can use it to get a good read on how good a card will be. This will show you what the people above said. In lower resolutions Green wins but at high resolution Red wins. Higher is 4k or multi monitor stuff. This is through display port. Both cards DO NOT have HDMI 2.0 so 4k tv is limited to 30 fps. There is going to be a converter released some time soon which I have been waiting for over a year to get but every converter drop prior to Q2 2015 is a lie and will not support 60fps. Also the advice to wait may be real. The 390x is on par with my crossfire 290x and the future 380x will be the same but cooler then the current 290x. But the clear out prices may be well worth it. But seriously the 390x should be on your radar unless the 290x prices dropped out. Now I talked about prices which green is more. They charge a premium. Green is cooler and less energy intensive with better updates. Think V4 race car. Red is like a v12 dragster, tons of power but so much wasted effort and squealing tires. too much processing power for lintel to handle. Which is why the dx 12 is so desired by red users. These things have more processing power and if Microsoft did the drivers and not AMD then it would be the best of every world. AMD has been getting better at this but wow that CPU bottleneck is real. Also you need 64 bit to really run all this as I am sure you know.

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 05:42 PM

Best brand = Ford or Chevy?

Newer amd tech will probably give you more bang for your buck.

What kind of FPS are you getting and what do you desire?

#9 Lord Letto

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 06:15 PM

View PostDemonicDonut, on 23 April 2015 - 05:42 PM, said:

Best brand = Ford or Chevy?

Newer amd tech will probably give you more bang for your buck.

What kind of FPS are you getting and what do you desire?

Chevy FTMFW!

#10 Gumon Choji

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 06:39 PM

Also to get the best out of your card in game turn off flash acceleration for online movies. The hud uses this and it will lower FPS.

#11 Maxxximal

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 08:35 PM

I have the R9 290 and the GTX 970 and I have tried both cards with the (non K version) i7-4770 and the (K version) i7-4790K.

Depends on the resolution you want to run and your rigs tolerance for heat.

2x2 matrix answers:
1080P and high heat is OK go R9 290 (if it is less expensive)
1080P and need less heat go GTX 970
4K and high heat is OK go R9 290
4K and the heat is killing you go GTX 970

#12 Oderint dum Metuant

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 10:03 PM

I suspect the 270X can handle High settings.

What I suspect can not; is your stock clocked I7.
The game is highly dependent on CPU for its FPS stability.

#13 darqsyde

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Posted 25 April 2015 - 10:02 AM

View PostDV McKenna, on 23 April 2015 - 10:03 PM, said:

I suspect the 270X can handle High settings.

What I suspect can not; is your stock clocked I7.
The game is highly dependent on CPU for its FPS stability.


I agree with this. O/C that i7, if possible to 4.0Ghz or higher.

#14 RCore

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Posted 25 April 2015 - 10:15 AM

I just upgraded to an i7-4790K. GPU is still the R9 270X 2GB. I get almost a constant 60 fps with negligible fps drops, playing at 1920x1080 at Very High with FXAA settings.

So I'd imagine either of those 2 cards would be good, although personally I'd go for the GTX 970 because it's cooler and it supports HDMI 2.0 for 4K @ 60Hz.

P.S. I was using the same R9 270X with a Q6600 and the difference is night and day with the new i7. Used to get huge frame drops to 20+ fps with the Q6600. Now it's almost always 60 fps.

Edited by RCore, 25 April 2015 - 10:16 AM.


#15 KhanJames

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Posted 25 April 2015 - 10:54 AM

I would hold out for new AMD cards. Hell I use a XFX 270 (nonX) with minimal overclock I get over 50 frames constant. for me what i discovered was my "MWO weak link" was my FX 8320, not the "mid-range" card which i had suspected. So im holding out for the 390x and gonna find out how it compares in real life (MWO) tests.
Personally i consider it a programming miracle that MWO found a way to create such a heavily processor dependent game in a world where almost all others are gpu dependent.

#16 Excalibur21ADFS

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Posted 25 April 2015 - 11:02 AM

I'm running 1080px3 eyefinity on an XFX R9 290X. Maxed settings. Perfectly playable but don't know what the fps is.

The R300 series cards are dropping soon. Wait for those?

#17 Goose

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Posted 25 April 2015 - 02:54 PM

Log Files or It Didn't Happen®

Also: if you can't afford the top models, there's only a minor price reason to wait

#18 Randall Flagg

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Posted 26 April 2015 - 10:59 AM

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#19 Maxxximal

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Posted 29 April 2015 - 10:34 AM

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#20 Flapdrol

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Posted 29 April 2015 - 11:11 AM

View PostKhanJames, on 25 April 2015 - 10:54 AM, said:

almost all others are gpu dependent.

Not anymore.





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