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#21 Musashi IX

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 10:03 AM

View PostxWiredx, on 14 May 2015 - 09:57 AM, said:

As the resident PSU junkie, I recommend that you investigate whether a PSU you're looking to buy is OEMed from Seasonic or SuperFlower. If not, I'd probably skip it. Look on Jonnyguru's site for a review of a PSU if you're on the bench.

If you want to get hardcore with your overclock, a power conditioner and top-notch Seasonic PSU are my personal recommendations. Every little bit of ripple you can eliminate is worth it (my Yamaha monitors also agree that the power conditioner is a lovely addition to the circuit).


With current plans of grabbing a evga oc'd 970, and waiting for the 980ti's to come out (most recent release date info i can find is September 2015?) to replace the 970 what do you think a good level of psu would be ? 800w?

Also on the mobo debate, I dont mind buying something a little more than i need, my goal with this is to build a dekstop with great potential. I want to spend around 1,500 now and probably another 1000-1,500 in the next 6 months turning into a full fledged beast. That being said guess i should get a 1000 or 1200w psu then eh?

I'm aiming to get this thing put together around the end this month or first week or so of june.

Edited by Musashi IX, 14 May 2015 - 10:09 AM.


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Posted 14 May 2015 - 10:29 AM

View PostMusashi IX, on 14 May 2015 - 10:03 AM, said:


With current plans of grabbing a evga oc'd 970, and waiting for the 980ti's to come out (most recent release date info i can find is September 2015?) to replace the 970 what do you think a good level of psu would be ? 800w?

Also on the mobo debate, I dont mind buying something a little more than i need, my goal with this is to build a dekstop with great potential. I want to spend around 1,500 now and probably another 1000-1,500 in the next 6 months turning into a full fledged beast. That being said guess i should get a 1000 or 1200w psu then eh?

I'm aiming to get this thing put together around the end this month or first week or so of june.


On a single card you can get away with 500-600 watts on a good brand PSU. (Seasonic, EVGA, Superflower, XFX)
For multi GPU Nvidia 650-800W would be plenty and leave room.
Maxwell (Nvidia) is pretty power efficient.

Buying more than you need in terms of a motherboard is ok.....if your actually going to use the features your buying over the top.
Comparing the MSI SLI Krait and Sabertooth (just on PC Part picker as im pushed for time)

The SLI Krait has support for higher freq memory where as the Sabertooth only supports 1333/1600/1866 (which probably isn't right)
Both support the same 32GB memory limit, both support SLI and Crossfire.

The Krait has 2 less 6GB/S Sata ports 4 vs 6 so it depends how many HDD's you want to end up with.

Alternatively there is the MSI Gaming 5 board, which has the full 6 SATA 3 6 G/B ports and multi GPU support and still only costs $125

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 10:36 AM

Pretty sure with my X99 system I still have breathing room to add a second GTX 980 with my 760W Seasonic PSU.

At the $1500 mark just right now, I think you're on the right track. Since you have plans to go even further with an additional budget half a year away, I might make a few amendments:

A high-end board will be a must if you want to build a monster system. There is no reason to save a few dollars and go mid-range with a board if your intent is a real enthusiast-class system. ASUS all the way.

Grab an 800W or 850W Seasonic platinum PSU. You will thank me later. Simple home theatre power conditioner for bonus points (especially if you're gonna have good speakers and not headphones when gaming).

If you want to build a monster, squeek out the few extra dollars and grab DDR3-2133 or 2400. Why get 140fps when you can get 142fps? Yes, I'm serious. Every nanosecond you cut off your I/O time is a nanosecond not wasted. Again, I'm serious.

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 10:45 AM

View PostxWiredx, on 14 May 2015 - 10:36 AM, said:

Pretty sure with my X99 system I still have breathing room to add a second GTX 980 with my 760W Seasonic PSU.

At the $1500 mark just right now, I think you're on the right track. Since you have plans to go even further with an additional budget half a year away, I might make a few amendments:

A high-end board will be a must if you want to build a monster system. There is no reason to save a few dollars and go mid-range with a board if your intent is a real enthusiast-class system. ASUS all the way.

Grab an 800W or 850W Seasonic platinum PSU. You will thank me later. Simple home theatre power conditioner for bonus points (especially if you're gonna have good speakers and not headphones when gaming).

If you want to build a monster, squeek out the few extra dollars and grab DDR3-2133 or 2400. Why get 140fps when you can get 142fps? Yes, I'm serious. Every nanosecond you cut off your I/O time is a nanosecond not wasted. Again, I'm serious.


I'm sorry, but what is the advantage to having DDR4 outside of memory to unit ratio? All you get is more memory per stick with a slightly lower voltage and similar performance to DDR3. To me, it's not worth the price when DDR3 prices are well very stable and performance is still solid. So personally, those 2 fps aren't worth the price of the memory for me when it boils right down to it. However, we both do agree on one thing... ASUS for life! Also, I've never heard of the Seasonic brand PSU's, but next time I do a system build I will definitely look into them as an option aside from Corsair. I also recommend staying away from Corsair AIO closed loops with the i7-4790k unless you're going 240+, but even then I thought it was strange that my backplate came in the mail damaged and I had to take it to work so that I could repair it properly.

Also, this might be a good template for you to use for an eventual build, plenty of room for expansion, comes with all of the fans you need, and you can replace the water cooling with a CPU heatsink instead, in which case I would recommend a beastly Noctua brand instead. They work wonders in high pressure airflow systems which will benefit you in the long run by not having to worry about coolant levels and leaks.
it may not live up to xWiredx's high standards, but still within reasonable price ranges and you get a free upgrade to Windows 10 when it's released (contact Microsoft first, some operating systems cannot be upgraded to Windows 10).

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6j7JXL

Edited by Roaxis Stalomainis, 14 May 2015 - 10:58 AM.


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Posted 14 May 2015 - 01:14 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($316.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Swiftech H240-X 90.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($168.44 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($5.49 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($75.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($53.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($68.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($73.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($532.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 w/Window (Titanium) ATX Mid Tower Case ($117.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($133.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair SP140 49.5 CFM 140mm Fans ($28.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1646.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Edited by Lord Letto, 14 May 2015 - 01:19 PM.


#26 Musashi IX

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 01:59 PM

After some consideration i'm sitting here :</p>

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($316.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($83.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH Z97 MARK S ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($269.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5&quot; 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($73.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB FTW+ ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($373.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 760T White ATX Full Tower Case ($144.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 1050W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($199.98 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($86.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1693.68</div>
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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My whole upgrade path idea has fallen to shreds, in the long run it will be much more expensive for the amount im saving now. I figure if i want a beast, build a beast and not upgrade a meh into something nice. I need a good foundation to do so. I grabbed a nice 760T case and I like the clean white maybe with some blue led look :) Dropped a fatty Seasonic 1050w in it and added $30 to the mobo and grabbed the limited edition Asus mark S, and went to 2x8gb ddr3 1866 ram. All that puts me about $200 over my planned budget which is do-able for a sexy looking machine, and gives me a great platform to drop in some twin 980gti's, titans, or 390x's later. As long as my wife doesn't find out about it lol.

All that being said one last question

Cooling?

Will a Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler Be enough to keep this thing frosty? I plan on loading up the case with as many fans as i can fit/power in it?

Don't forget I'm a noob at this and i don't want to dive into some custom acryliic tubing with fittings and all that just yet, I'd like something thats more or less on the easy side of installation. And doesn't require much or any frequent maintenance.

Edited by Musashi IX, 14 May 2015 - 02:05 PM.


#27 Lord Letto

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 02:36 PM

http://www.techpower...r-h100i.206471/
http://www.overclock...-swiftech-h240x
I'd say screw the Corsair AIO and get a Swiftech
so with that last build you came up with:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($316.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Swiftech H240-X 90.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($168.44 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH Z97 MARK S ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($269.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5&quot; 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB FTW+ ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($373.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 760T White ATX Full Tower Case ($144.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 1050W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($199.98 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($86.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1774.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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#28 Goose

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 02:39 PM



PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($372.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright TS-140 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI X99S SLI Plus ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($159.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($269.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Silicon Power S60 120GB 2.5&quot; Solid State Drive ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Toshiba 5TB 3.5&quot; 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($139.99 @ Micro Center)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($315.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Two ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($117.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy Rx 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($56.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1616.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Base Total: $1680.84
Promo Discounts: -$10.00
Mail-in Rebates: -$55.00
Shipping: $0.99
Total: $1616.83

64A out'a 70.8 on the 12V rail … assuming twin 980s, two moar of them 5-teras, and an outrageous overclock …

Edited by Goose, 14 May 2015 - 02:40 PM.


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Posted 14 May 2015 - 02:44 PM

View PostGoose, on 14 May 2015 - 02:39 PM, said:



PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($372.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright TS-140 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI X99S SLI Plus ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($159.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($269.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Silicon Power S60 120GB 2.5&quot; Solid State Drive ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Toshiba 5TB 3.5&quot; 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($139.99 @ Micro Center)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($315.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Two ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($117.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy Rx 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($56.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1616.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-14 18:35 EDT-0400

Base Total: $1680.84
Promo Discounts: -$10.00
Mail-in Rebates: -$55.00
Shipping: $0.99
Total: $1616.83

64A out'a 70.8 on the 12V rail … assuming twin 980s, two moar of them 5-teras, and an outrageous overclock …

With Windows, Swiftech Cooler & Full ATX Case he wants:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($372.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Swiftech H240-X 90.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($168.44 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI X99S SLI Plus ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($159.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($269.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Silicon Power S60 120GB 2.5&quot; Solid State Drive ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Toshiba 5TB 3.5&quot; 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($139.99 @ Micro Center)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($315.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 760T White ATX Full Tower Case ($144.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($117.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($86.88 @ OutletPC)
Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy Rx 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($56.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1932.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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#30 Goose

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 02:47 PM

That thar Swiftech-thingie bumps the PSU up to about 900, and could only be fit to the case as an intake, if it'd reach.

Edited by Goose, 14 May 2015 - 02:49 PM.


#31 xWiredx

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 03:00 PM

Saved ya a few dollars

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($372.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($78.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI X99S SLI Plus ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($159.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($269.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5&quot; Solid State Drive ($68.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5&quot; 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($315.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Two ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($155.07 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($86.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1642.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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#32 xWiredx

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 03:03 PM

Realistically, though, if I were you I'd stick to the 4790K. I think you'll have more fun with that chip.

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 03:20 PM

View PostxWiredx, on 14 May 2015 - 03:00 PM, said:

Saved ya a few dollars

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($372.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($78.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI X99S SLI Plus ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($159.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($269.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5&quot; Solid State Drive ($68.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5&quot; 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($315.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Two ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($155.07 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($86.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1642.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Again, Swiftech Cooler & the Case He Wants & PSU That can Handle what he want's to do with it (900W Minimum with Swiftech Cooler according to Goose):
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($372.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Swiftech H240-X 90.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($168.44 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI X99S SLI Plus ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($159.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($269.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5&quot; Solid State Drive ($68.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5&quot; 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($315.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 760T White ATX Full Tower Case ($144.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($172.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($86.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1850.08
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Edited by Lord Letto, 14 May 2015 - 03:21 PM.


#34 xWiredx

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 03:38 PM

Way beyond budget, though, eh? I think we're about as derailed here as we can possibly get. Back toward the original build a bit...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($316.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($93.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VII HERO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($197.00 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($129.49 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5&quot; Solid State Drive ($68.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5&quot; 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($315.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($165.07 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($86.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1603.27
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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#35 Lord Letto

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 03:51 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($316.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Swiftech H240-X 90.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($168.44 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($112.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5&quot; Solid State Drive ($68.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5&quot; 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($315.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill 1050W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($86.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1509.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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#36 Roaxis Stalomainis

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 08:53 PM

View PostMusashi IX, on 14 May 2015 - 01:59 PM, said:

After some consideration i'm sitting here :</p>

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($316.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($83.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH Z97 MARK S ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($269.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5&quot; 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($73.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB FTW+ ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($373.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 760T White ATX Full Tower Case ($144.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 1050W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($199.98 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($86.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1693.68</div>
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
div>Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-14 17:44 EDT-0400

My whole upgrade path idea has fallen to shreds, in the long run it will be much more expensive for the amount im saving now. I figure if i want a beast, build a beast and not upgrade a meh into something nice. I need a good foundation to do so. I grabbed a nice 760T case and I like the clean white maybe with some blue led look :) Dropped a fatty Seasonic 1050w in it and added $30 to the mobo and grabbed the limited edition Asus mark S, and went to 2x8gb ddr3 1866 ram. All that puts me about $200 over my planned budget which is do-able for a sexy looking machine, and gives me a great platform to drop in some twin 980gti's, titans, or 390x's later. As long as my wife doesn't find out about it lol.

All that being said one last question

Cooling?

Will a Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler Be enough to keep this thing frosty? I plan on loading up the case with as many fans as i can fit/power in it?

Don't forget I'm a noob at this and i don't want to dive into some custom acryliic tubing with fittings and all that just yet, I'd like something thats more or less on the easy side of installation. And doesn't require much or any frequent maintenance.

Please take my advice and stay away from the Corsair water coolers. Enermax makes a better AIO water cooling system with an optimized copper heatsink and the radiator I purchased from Corsair was damaged (dents and pivots in the radiator block). You will also need Thermal Paste as well, while your new water cooler comes with some already applied, it doesn't work very well. I would recommend Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste. Also, the mobo you're ordering has that heat shielding, that's not going to be a necessity to keep your system cool, it might only cool it by 1 or 2 Fahrenheit. You would be better off with either the standard ASUS Hero Maximum VII Hero that I linked or the standard version of that Sabertooth board... Just trying to save you a few bucks, but this is your dream machine, so it's all up to you. ;) Also, I seriously recommend staying away from Windows 7 Home Premium at all costs for a gaming rig, while the low price might look good you will never be able to exceed 16GB of Ram. If you go Pro, you get more features and freedom to customize your system with no hardware limitations at all. Btw, the 128TB I typed earlier was a mistake because I couldn't find the right database page. Here's an official document from Microsoft regarding the OS limitations in terms of Memory capacity.

*Link*
https://msdn.microso...imits_windows_7

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 09:57 PM

View PostMusashi IX, on 13 May 2015 - 10:27 PM, said:

And for the cpu cooler I plan on upgrading to liquid (H100ti) once it's oc'd and sli'd and all that jazz in the future :P I just want something that's definitely going to keep me frosty.


No need to go liquid cooling even with an OC'd 4790k. The D14 you have/had originally selected will easily keep it cool.

If you don't really need an Optical drive, I suggest having a look at the NZXT H440/Noctis 450.

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Posted 15 May 2015 - 01:07 AM

View Postdarqsyde, on 14 May 2015 - 09:57 PM, said:


No need to go liquid cooling even with an OC'd 4790k. The D14 you have/had originally selected will easily keep it cool.

If you don't really need an Optical drive, I suggest having a look at the NZXT H440/Noctis 450.


Optical Drives are always optional and last for years at a time unless you're burning disks for whatever reason, so he could pull one out of his old desktop and it will work just fine as long as it's not IDE. And while the D14 works fine, I have to have water cooling regardless of what you say, running MWO with 3 server VM's can be rather taxing on the CPU. One thing I'm getting tired of seeing is people trying to push Home Premium on this guy when he needs Professional instead. Higher ram capacity and the ability to secure his machine better via local policies is always going to be better in the long run, not to mention that Microsoft is offering free upgrades to Windows 10 for Windows 7 and 8.1 users upon release (So he gets Windows 10 Professional for free later on).

Edited by Roaxis Stalomainis, 15 May 2015 - 01:12 AM.


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Posted 15 May 2015 - 02:28 AM

View PostRoaxis Stalomainis, on 15 May 2015 - 01:07 AM, said:


Optical Drives are always optional and last for years at a time unless you're burning disks for whatever reason, so he could pull one out of his old desktop and it will work just fine as long as it's not IDE. And while the D14 works fine, I have to have water cooling regardless of what you say, running MWO with 3 server VM's can be rather taxing on the CPU. One thing I'm getting tired of seeing is people trying to push Home Premium on this guy when he needs Professional instead. Higher ram capacity and the ability to secure his machine better via local policies is always going to be better in the long run, not to mention that Microsoft is offering free upgrades to Windows 10 for Windows 7 and 8.1 users upon release (So he gets Windows 10 Professional for free later on).



He doesn't "Need" the professional version, that's just false.
You may prefer pro for the stuff you do, but for the average end user Home is just fine.


View PostLord Letto, on 14 May 2015 - 03:51 PM, said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($316.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Swiftech H240-X 90.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($168.44 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($112.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5&quot; Solid State Drive ($68.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5&quot; 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($315.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill 1050W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($86.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1509.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Likely the best nearest in budget build to be posted/

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Posted 15 May 2015 - 05:10 AM

Here are a few problems with recent advice here:

In the latest build from Letto, there is a Rosewill 1000W PSU. 1) Rosewill makes crappy PSUs 2) OP doesn't need more than 800W to go GTX 980 SLI even on an X99 system where the CPU is 140W TDP instead of 95W 3) If we're bumping up the PSU that much to accommodate a cooler and it isn't a full custom loop that already incorporates all of the components, then the cooler needs to go (which negates the need for this wattage anyway)

Again, since OP wants to build a beast system and this is going to be his foundation, only top-end ASUS board will do. Any Sabertooth or Maximum Z97 board to be slightly more precise.

OP definitely doesn't need anything beyond 8GB of RAM for gaming. We're already adding in 16GB. There's no need for going with a PRO version of Windows that can support more because 16GB is already way more than enough. The only requirement here is 64-bit instead of 32-bit which, in this day and age, is a given anyway.

Enermax does -not- make a better AIO than Corsair. The main players for OP will be a Corsair H100i/H105/H110, Cooler Master Nepton 280L, NZXT Kraken X60, or Silverstone Tundra TD02. The thing with the H105 (and the reason I chose it for my system) is that despite its "regular" performance near the rest of these at typical overclocked thermal loads, for some reason it seems to handle slightly higher thermal loads a bit better. Bottom line is any of the above I just listed will be in the same league and ALL of them are better than the best Enermax has released so far.





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