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[Tekkiller]

Squigles, on 04 July 2012 - 04:57 PM, said:

Here's an alternative, Team Fortress 2, game makes plenty of money, ya know what they sell? Hats, silly, pretty much pointless hats. There's no huge grind to the "end game", in fact, there's not really any major power curve at the top end either. Nexon's Kart Racer, tons o money there, one of the best selling items? A freaking hotdog that your racer held while he drove.

Why do you think the dev's stuck a post in general asking what people would want in their cockpits? It wasn't so they could add it for free. For those that have paid attention their financial scheme has become more and more obvious, and it doesn't revolve around a painful grind to the "top tier", even the idea of such a thing is anathema to a setting such as battletech.

I hope you're right. However, I believe it when I see it =)

[Hayashi]

The change isn't that tiny. If I could choose when my premium account time works for any other game, I'd get exponentially more time out of it. I could activate it only on weekends, since normally premium time on weekdays never gets full utilisation. If granularity increases such that you can activate by hour, then this becomes even more extreme. By deactivating it when I sleep I get that much value out of it.

Without drawing unnecessary parallels beyond the commonality of MWO and RuneScape both having premium and F2P flavours... basically it took me about 30 months to max my account there from zero, which cost me 30x$10.00 - $300.00, before I quit. However, if i had that ability to choose when my account activates premium capabilities, my total ingame time was only 210 days at the time of quitting, which is 7 months ish - $70.00.

That's less than a quarter of the course, and I played a LOT.

What you're asking is more than a 50% discount off the premium account cost. Don't get me wrong, I'd like it too if we get discounts, as much as you do. However, it's not true by any account that it's a tiny change.

Of course this is just talking about the concept of premium time that you can turn on and off. As some other posters have stated, the Founders' Pack is not simply about premium time, that's still going to be available later. It's in a way to put our money where our mouth goes - when we say that we trust the game has a future, we follow up in this to invest in advance. If the game is a flop, this will be a waste. If it is a phenomenal success, this investment will pay off, and all the new people that come in after that will never be able to get the title again. Think of it as venture capitalism in a new start up. In spite of having incomplete information, you throw money at the entrepreneurs in advance trusting that it will pay off in time. The release of the game is the IPO - when you already have better data on whether it's going to work out or not, and people who buy shares at the IPO stage never get as good a deal as the VCs in terms of $/share ratio - but then their chance of losing whatever they put in is also correspondingly much less.

[Schtirlitz]

Founder packs are all about risk and hope.
Choice is yours to make.

[Cid]

are you indirectly saying that you will still be able to buy the founder premium mechs at a later point of time outside the limited founders offer?

cause the only thing you are talking about that "you will never be able to get again" is the title.

sorry, just me trying to squeeze some info out of that post

[Gancelot]

I bought the founder pack to support the developers and get myself a nice bonus on the side while doing so.

As other people stated you would squeeze out more days with your bought premium therefore the idea is not really ideal if you want to make money as a company. Would be great for players as myself seeing I usually play way more in weekends than weekdays. Still I don't mind seeing regardless I get a nice boost and progress faster for a decent amount which is not too extreme.

I get an advantage over normal players.
The company gets money to pay for the server so people without money but more time than myself can play the game for free.

Everybody happy imho.

[Outrider01]

grimzod, on 04 July 2012 - 07:37 AM, said:

Second, the main reason for the money drop off in WOT is to keep the low er tiers populated so the new players dont have to play against a tiny fraction of the playerbase. There are always large numbers of low tiers playing because 75% of the players DONT PAY A DIME and need to grind silver to support high tier tanks.

For emphasis, I am calling bullshit on this statement. 75% of the player base plays tier 8 or higher, rarely can I ever get a streak of a tier 5 tank in a tier 5 match...usually its hordes of tier 8/7/6 and its just not fun playing in a handicap tier 5 medium / heavy tank all day long even if you pay for it. Litterly, I can hit random and see 10 straight matches of a tier 5 on the bottom populated by tier 8 tanks with maybe 1 match with a KV or PzIV near the top (lol no I am not scouting, tier 5s are not fast and have **** view range but as soon as a tier 8 shoots the tier 5 its game over). After awhile I gave up, unless the rewards are justifiably higher for the short life span of a tier 5 tank then its a **** game where the top dudes are force feed easy kills who can't even relize....200+ pen guns do not bounce vs 70-100mm of armor unless its the odd horizontal skipping shot and you cannot lose in a top tier tank against a tier 5 and you just win everytime...aka no ******* challenge at all to you in an IS vs the Lee or Sherman vs the IS-3 or Panther II

[Endust]

Never played WoT, played BT and the MW series 2,3,4. Heard about MWO and ploped 120$ down because I believe! All you people saying you woud not put that money down on something you don't know I call BS, you do that everytime you take a girl on a date hoping for the score

Edited by Endust, 06 July 2012 - 06:56 AM.

[Veevslav]

Wolfclaw, on 05 July 2012 - 12:03 PM, said:

So $80 worth of in-game currency isnt enough to satisfy you? Pathetic. The founders isnt about premium or anything with the game IMO, it is solely for the collectors, the things you get are just a bonus....


Edit: Disregard the IMO, no longer my opinion since its proven.

Wolfclaw are you always an *** or is it a sign of your lack of wits?

Cid, on 05 July 2012 - 12:07 PM, said:

dude, just because you think that way doesn't make someone elses point of view pathetic.

If you are pathetic and immature it does....

Cid, on 05 July 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

mhmm, and because it has been advertised as that means everyone who takes a more sceptical look at the personal value he is getting for cashing out money for founders is pathetic?
you are probably the perfect victim for modern marketing strategies!
so, if you are not die-hard fan of the franchise and still think about buying founders you are pathetic, is that what you are trying to say?

I have a horse for sale...... fastest in the world 10 billion dollars please.......... for 11 billion I will call him a mech.......

[Wolfclaw]

Veevslav, on 06 July 2012 - 03:56 PM, said:

Wolfclaw are you always an *** or is it a sign of your lack of wits?

You are trying to bribe the devs into making it the way you want...


"IM NOT GONNA BUY YOUR PACKAGE UNLESS YOU LET ME PLAY THE GAME FIRST!"

Edited by Wolfclaw, 06 July 2012 - 05:12 PM.

[Veevslav]

Wolfclaw, on 06 July 2012 - 05:11 PM, said:

You are trying to bribe the devs into making it the way you want...


"IM NOT GONNA BUY YOUR PACKAGE UNLESS YOU LET ME PLAY THE GAME FIRST!"

Information is ammo..... The more you have the better off you are. I am asking for clarification on a few points. At first I was hell bent to play before throwing down some change. Now I want a question answered and maybe the answering of the question will help sway a few other people to act....

Will the $80 of in game currency, which is MW Bills(Thanks to Helmer for supplying that), allow us to extend our premium like in WOT, or will it be for cosmetic items and a direct exchanger for Cbills?

But either way Wolfclaw, start acting civil towards people, no one likes a dick in their midst, even if he thinks he is god's gift to everyone. Something a little maturity will beat out of you I promise, that is of course if your stupidity does not get you killed before you mature past the behavioral patterns of a 14 year old...... A little abstract thinking would not be too amiss either, but some people never develop that....

Helmer, on 05 July 2012 - 08:56 AM, said:

MC Bills are currency purchased with real money.
C-Bills are in game currency you earn playing the game.
I believe both can be used to purchase mechs and weapons.

Cheers.

[Veevslav]

I think early access just sealed the deal for me and this little tidbit here....

Wednesday December 7th, 2011 is Wednesday December 7th, 3048.
http://mwomercs.com/...munity-warfare/
Clan invasion starts august 3049. Game launches Early access August 7, 2012....... Do the math....

The Clan Invasion (known to the Clans as Operation Revival) refers to the massive Clan invasion of the Inner Sphere, commencing with the arrival of Clans Jade Falcon, Wolf, Ghost Bear, and Smoke Jaguar in the near, coreward Periphery (The Rift and The Draconian Drift) in August, 3049.

Early access means clan invasion unfolds as you play.....

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Veevslav, on 07 July 2012 - 10:43 AM, said:

I think early access just sealed the deal for me and this little tidbit here....

Wednesday December 7th, 2011 is Wednesday December 7th, 3048.
http://mwomercs.com/...munity-warfare/
Clan invasion starts august 3049. Game launches Early access August 7, 2012....... Do the math....

The Clan Invasion (known to the Clans as Operation Revival) refers to the massive Clan invasion of the Inner Sphere, commencing with the arrival of Clans Jade Falcon, Wolf, Ghost Bear, and Smoke Jaguar in the near, coreward Periphery (The Rift and The Draconian Drift) in August, 3049.

Early access means clan invasion unfolds as you play.....

also theres no commnity warfare at launch

[Sergei Smirnov]

First off, I commend you for the proper use of the abbreviation: "newb." So many ignorant people unknowingly spell this as "noob." That being said, I am disappointed that you don't know the difference between "then" and "than," but it's cool though. You break even in my opinion. It could certainly be worse: you could not know the difference between your and you're. Such a simple concept.

I completely agree with your opinion of wanting to choose when to activate your premium account. Many people won't be able to play the game immediately at launch, and may wish to activate it at a later date rather than immediately begin wasting the premium account they have purchased.

With that being said, I believe that the Elite Package is still a good value as it will give you 80 in-game space-dollars for the price of $60. If you plan to spend money on this game at any time in the future, now would be a good time. Many people are able to justify this as purchasing a new video game (understandable). Additionally, you'll also receive a premium 'Mech which will (to a lesser extent) act as a premium account by earning additional credits and experience. This bonus will never expire.

Edited by Sergei Smirnov, 08 July 2012 - 07:16 AM.

[Veevslav]

Sergei Smirnov, on 07 July 2012 - 11:20 AM, said:

First off, I commend you for the proper use of the abbreviation: "newb." So many ignorant people unknowingly spell this as "noob." That being said, I am disappointed that you don't know the difference between "then" and "than," but it's cool though. You break even in my opinion. It could certainly be worse: you could not know the difference between your and you're. Such a simple concept.

I completely agree with your opinion of wanting to choose when to activate your premium account. Many people won't be able to play the game immediately at launch, and may wish to activate it at a later date rather than immediately begin wasting the premium account they have purchased.

With that being said, I believe that the Elite Package is still a good value as it will give you 80 in-game space-dollars for the price of $60. If you plan to spend money on this game at any time in the future, now would be a good time. Many people are able to justify this as purchasing a new video game (understandable). Additionally, you'll also receive a premium 'Mech which will (to a lesser extent) act as a premium account by earning additional credits and experience. This bonus will never expire.

Mech only earns bonus on Cbills.... No exp.... Sorry....

[Thaygood]

grimzod, on 04 July 2012 - 07:37 AM, said:

First, the Founders programisn't for people that want an instant advantage, we're simply supportin gthe development fo the game. the in game goodies are a bonus as far as i'm concerned.

Second, the main reason for the money drop off in WOT is to keep the low er tiers populated so the new players dont have to play against a tiny fraction of the playerbase. There are always large numbers of low tiers playing because 75% of the players DONT PAY A DIME and need to grind silver to support high tier tanks.

Third, the only tiers in the game are unlockable skills and equipment. You unlock a tier of equipment like a laser and then you have access to that so you can purchase it - thats it.



This low level bigotry is stupid. Stop demeaning yourselves. Ignorance of the wot financial mechanics and company motives blinds peopel to exactly why things are as they are in wot - russians even belarussians do nothing without a plan.

Hey a "Hunt for Red October" fan...LOL, but you are right MWO is where we should gather for fun fellowship and some good old mech blasting.

[Sergei Smirnov]

Veevslav, on 07 July 2012 - 02:20 PM, said:

Mech only earns bonus on Cbills.... No exp.... Sorry....

No experience bonus? Damn, but don't feel sorry, it's not your fault.

It still stands that the credit bonus on a premium 'Mech and the exta monetary incentive makes the Elite Founders Pack a good value for those planning on spending money on this game.