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[The Mechromancer]

PGI PLZ


Can't have IIC mechs without the most iconic of the bunch. Have pity on us clanners so that we may spin 360 degrees in joy.




Someone get Bishop in here!

Edited by The Mechromancer, 25 June 2015 - 08:29 PM.

[Deathlike]

Urbie IIC > Urbie.

Sad, but true.

[Monkey Lover]

Clans can't have every toy.

[CycKath]

C-Bill Bonus version as Early Adopter Reward?

[Hit the Deck]

So, how would Clan Battlemechs work again? Basically just IS 'Mechs (same construction rules as we have now) using Clan tech?

[FupDup]

Hit the Deck, on 25 June 2015 - 10:45 PM, said:

So, how would Clan Battlemechs work again? Basically just IS 'Mechs (same construction rules as we have now) using Clan tech?

We should Twitter the daylights out of Russ so he answers.

[Hit the Deck]

Something is weird. I just checked Highlander IIC on sarna and its two other variants will only come out in 3072 and 3077

[Mcgral18]

Hit the Deck, on 25 June 2015 - 10:57 PM, said:

Something is weird. I just checked Highlander IIC on sarna and its two other variants will only come out in 3072 and 3077

Same for everything but the Jenner.


ATMs and Heavy lasers for all the others. PGI will be making half of those variants up.

[Deathlike]

Mcgral18, on 25 June 2015 - 10:59 PM, said:

Same for everything but the Jenner.


ATMs and Heavy lasers for all the others. PGI will be making half of those variants up.

I kinda fear heavy lasers would have excessive durations if those were to be added... yet those things are so tonnage/crit efficient for what they do (IS laser range with far more damage and heat generated).

[Narcissistic Martyr]

Deathlike, on 25 June 2015 - 11:01 PM, said:

I kinda fear heavy lasers would have excessive durations if those were to be added... yet those things are so tonnage/crit efficient for what they do (IS laser range with far more damage and heat generated).

Eh, PGI could add Binary Lasers to give the IS a rough equivalent. They'd have to make up a small and medium variant, but whatever. Actually PGI could add those now, they're in time line even if they were never used a whole lot.

The large laser version weighs 9 tons, does 12 damage and generates 16 heat. It has LL range though.

PGI could do 1.5 tons for BML for say 8 damage with longer duration
BSL could be 0.75 tons and do 5 damage.
PGI could also do an BERLL that hits for 12 and generates 20 heat, but I'm not sure I'd choose that over an ERPPC.

They'd be perfect for light mechs and brawlers with limited energy hard points

[Speedy Plysitkos]

nooo, let urbie be IS only....

[Bishop Steiner]

The Mechromancer, on 25 June 2015 - 08:26 PM, said:

PGI PLZ


Can't have IIC mechs without the most iconic of the bunch. Have pity on us clanners so that we may spin 360 degrees in joy.




Someone get Bishop in here!

but..but...I find the Urbie IIC to be an abomination! It wouldn't even have 360 rotation!!!! (technically it would have none...they didn't give it a waist turret)

even if the exposed waist turrets artists are so enamored of make no sense to begin with.

Deathlike, on 25 June 2015 - 08:29 PM, said:

Urbie IIC > Urbie.

Sad, but true.

Nope.

Nope nope nope nope nope nope

NOPE.

[Bishop Steiner]

Hit the Deck, on 25 June 2015 - 10:57 PM, said:

Something is weird. I just checked Highlander IIC on sarna and its two other variants will only come out in 3072 and 3077

Mcgral18, on 25 June 2015 - 10:59 PM, said:

Same for everything but the Jenner.


ATMs and Heavy lasers for all the others. PGI will be making half of those variants up.

While not strictly canon, I would say it safe to say that each had lower tech versions, at some point, even if we don't get the mixtech to really represent early Clan designs.

Deathlike, on 25 June 2015 - 11:01 PM, said:

I kinda fear heavy lasers would have excessive durations if those were to be added... yet those things are so tonnage/crit efficient for what they do (IS laser range with far more damage and heat generated).

Long duration heavy lasers, as relatively short range weapons, would defeat the purpose.

But, they are noted for 2 things, heat (ridiculous heat) and inaccuracy.

Simplest way to represent the way a Heavy laser should work, IMO is:
- Pulse Laser Like Durations, slightly longer cooldowns.
- HOT, very HOT with big GH multipliers
-Not give them the second range bracket. Due to their inherent and canon inaccuracy, make them purely short range weapons. So instead of 180 total range, Heavy Small is 90m. Instead of 540 for Medium, 270, and for Large 450, not 900.

To damage dropoff, nothing. Blazing hot, short duration/high cooldown short range facerippers.

[Midax]

Why would you give up the one advantage innersphere has over the clans?!

[That Guy]

and people think the clans are OP NOW


let the IIC in and there goes the neighborhood

Edited by That Guy, 26 June 2015 - 04:51 AM.

[Y E O N N E]

Forget the UrbanMech IIC, I want the Jenner IIC swapped out for the Locust IIC.

I will go Clans for the Locust IIC.

[Lord Perversor]

The Mechromancer, on 25 June 2015 - 08:26 PM, said:

PGI PLZ


Can't have IIC mechs without the most iconic of the bunch. Have pity on us clanners so that we may spin 360 degrees in joy.




Someone get Bishop in here!

Another Urbie pack incoming fro clans... OMG OMG , ppl will just throw again money at PGI!!

[Myray]

just asking IIC mechs can swap engine?

[Y E O N N E]

Myray, on 26 June 2015 - 06:22 AM, said:

just asking IIC mechs can swap engine?

Yes, though it sounded like they might be a bit more limited in engine flexibility than IS battlemechs. At least, that's what I got out of it.

[Speedy Plysitkos]

Bishop Steiner, on 26 June 2015 - 04:23 AM, said:

but..but...I find the Urbie IIC to be an abomination&
...


Nope.

Nope nope nope nope nope nope

NOPE.

you mean this...