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St. Ives' Blues, A Hero With That Loadout?


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#1 Rhialto

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Posted 27 June 2015 - 03:27 PM

Is it just me or calling it a Hero with such a loadout is a bit strange?

I thought about getting it but when I saw what I would get for my money I decided to skip.

Anyone else?

#2 GeistHrafn

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Posted 28 June 2015 - 09:22 AM

View PostRhialto, on 27 June 2015 - 03:27 PM, said:

Is it just me or calling it a Hero with such a loadout is a bit strange?

I thought about getting it but when I saw what I would get for my money I decided to skip.

Anyone else?

I haven't bought it yet for more or less the same reason. Actually was just coming to post and ask...

Any owners of the St. Ives' Blues....is it worth the MC? Are Vindicators in general worth the effort?

#3 TercieI

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Posted 28 June 2015 - 09:25 AM

Widely considered the worst medium. Mine are still in basic, so I can't say too much.

#4 Rhialto

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Posted 28 June 2015 - 09:25 AM

Not even DHS configured... <_<

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Posted 28 June 2015 - 01:52 PM

And then you see how poorly the SIB was quirked, even compared to the other Vindicators.

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Posted 28 June 2015 - 02:02 PM

The other Vindies aren't THAT bad and the 1AA is actually even really fun with a pair of PPCs but the SIB is not very good.

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Posted 28 June 2015 - 05:21 PM

View PostKevjack, on 28 June 2015 - 01:52 PM, said:

And then you see how poorly the SIB was quirked, even compared to the other Vindicators.


three (or more?) quirk passes later, it's still absolutely craptastic in that respect. it just doesn't measure up to any other variant (with the exception of the 1X maybe, but that one's just terribad), not to mention heavier, better equipped mechs.

Edited by Inflatable Fish, 28 June 2015 - 05:22 PM.


#8 Tastian

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Posted 28 June 2015 - 05:26 PM

I doubt my Vindis will ever see battle again after I mastered them.

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Posted 28 June 2015 - 06:30 PM

It's definitely not the most efficient or the best value for your MC.

You can do a few things with it (2 ERLL or 2 ASRM4/3MPL, or 2SRM10/3ML, all with JJs and a STD engine) but it's really hard to justify buying one unless you like the look. Which I did. ;)

#10 Zordicron

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Posted 28 June 2015 - 08:11 PM

DO NOT buy.

I sat and looked at it on sale for like 10 minutes. Bought, ran one match...

RAGRATS

The thing can;t run smaller like ML loadouts, no hardpoints. It doesnt have tonnage to run twin PPC because it can't mount JJ, a decent engine, and enough DHS to make it work.

Single PPC loadout? In the land of 70 point laser barf alphas? hahahahaha. And it still doesnt run that cool.

Speed, firepower, toughness. Pick TWO, thats most mechs, a couple are at like 2.5, St. Ive's............... it chose none of the above.

it is too bad, the thing is badass looking. but aside from Pretty Baby, no hero mech in game is so gimped out the gate.

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Posted 02 July 2015 - 02:12 PM

Not sure why everyone dislikes the VND-SIB so much.

With that 20% shorter duration on lasers quirk why would you want to mount PPCs? LPL are reduced to ~.5 sec pulse. I like to run my St. Ives' Blues like this:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...473aade00a5eac6

This one could run dual PPCs but my question is still why?

Or (runs a bit hotter)

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...e0b264aba2f1f0e

Edited by Orion Leftwind, 02 July 2015 - 02:14 PM.


#12 Frost Fall

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Posted 13 July 2015 - 08:29 PM

Vindicators are actual very fun mechs to pilot that specialize harassment. The saint Ives blue has that baller -20% to laser duration, so just slap on 2 LL and peck the hell out of some fattys.
1AA which has a max jump of 70 meters!!!! That is ridicules for it jumps higher then almost all the light mechs. So go ahead put 2 ppcs on the demon and let hell rain in the form of lighting(people will be sooo mad at you :) If the was ever a place to put a shock absorber modules you just found it




Pros
-Fast and very maneuverable when mastered
-Very strong Jumper
-Jump sniping never died with these mechs
-PPC quirks are strong here with 40% to ppc velocity
- Good for cw

Cons
-Hard points are trash considering how low they are
-Dual guass make your life suck
-Large for its weight

#13 Nightshade24

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 10:22 PM

View PostRhialto, on 28 June 2015 - 09:25 AM, said:

Not even DHS configured... <_<


Because it doesn't have it stock.

#14 Elizander

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 07:27 AM

View PostFrost Fall, on 13 July 2015 - 08:29 PM, said:

Vindicators are actual very fun mechs to pilot that specialize harassment. The saint Ives blue has that baller -20% to laser duration, so just slap on 2 LL and peck the hell out of some fattys.
1AA which has a max jump of 70 meters!!!! That is ridicules for it jumps higher then almost all the light mechs. So go ahead put 2 ppcs on the demon and let hell rain in the form of lighting(people will be sooo mad at you :) If the was ever a place to put a shock absorber modules you just found it




Pros
-Fast and very maneuverable when mastered
-Very strong Jumper
-Jump sniping never died with these mechs
-PPC quirks are strong here with 40% to ppc velocity
- Good for cw

Cons
-Hard points are trash considering how low they are
-Dual guass make your life suck
-Large for its weight


The Griffin is also pretty good with 2 PPCs and poptarting and is much tougher so given the choice and the fact that they are in the same weight class I'd probably go with my Griffin instead. :(

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 07:48 AM

View PostOrion Leftwind, on 02 July 2015 - 02:12 PM, said:

Not sure why everyone dislikes the VND-SIB so much.

With that 20% shorter duration on lasers quirk why would you want to mount PPCs? LPL are reduced to ~.5 sec pulse. I like to run my St. Ives' Blues like this:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...473aade00a5eac6

This one could run dual PPCs but my question is still why?

Or (runs a bit hotter)

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...e0b264aba2f1f0e


That second one seems pretty solid. Take out most assault from behind in 2 to 3 shots, heat efficient enough to fight for a good clip, fast enough to escape and cooldown, 35meters for jump. I don't own Vindicators but that's a decent build for an IS 45 tonner.

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 08:00 AM

I really enjoyed the Vindi's but never have gotten the SIB. Hardpoints aren't impressive as far as energy is concerned, good to see an extra missile point, but it seems like it needs a CT energy point, or I'd really love me a LT ballistic slot in place of the regular missile point. The 250 engine cap doesn't bother me, and I found the AA to be durable and nimble with a STD250.

Maybe transplant the Locust 1V quirks to is, or some crazy streak buff - just something different.

Edited by stealthraccoon, 04 August 2015 - 08:07 AM.


#17 Tahribator

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 09:04 AM

Oversized, low number of hardpoints, pointless variants, horrible quirks. It's definitely the worst medium PGI ever produced.

The 1AA can be a fun poptart, but that's it. The rest is going to need a lot of luck and sweat, blood and tears to work.

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 06:03 PM

View Poststealthraccoon, on 04 August 2015 - 08:00 AM, said:

I really enjoyed the Vindi's but never have gotten the SIB.


imo. its the best vindi,a miniature Griffin,use it as a SRM-brawler and you will be pleasantly suprised





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