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[Saint Scarlett Johan]

I've got an aging machine, which until recently performed well in MWO where with a mix of medium and high graphics I chugged along at 80+ frames.

This last patch dropped me down to around the 40-50 range. Which is still good, but not great. Which is also fine since my box is over four years old.

I have a GTX 550ti, i7-2600 clocked up to 3.8, and 8GB of RAM. Not optimal for MWO, but I do a lot with VMs on this box so the i7 was the logical choice for me.

A planned upgrade is to simply double my RAM. I keep hitting close to 80-90% memory on my machine since the last few months of patches. Which I think is due to the game being poorly optimized.

However, I'm looking at using an SSD exclusively for my OS for faster booting and was wondering if anyone here has any recommendations on a smaller, lower cost SSD I should be looking at for this purpose. Keep in mind that literally the only thing I plan on keeping on it will be the OS.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

As your probably aware, MWO likes tasty CPU cycles more so than raw graphics horsepower (although your 550Ti is pretty old now )
Im presuming that 2600 is the locked version.

The VM's i take it your running alongside MWO? In which case that's why your reaching your RAM limit otherwise 8GB would have been fine, so that's worth an increase.

SSD wise, Samsung make the best on the market atm, Crucial is another good brand and it seems since OCZ was brought up by Toshiba they are on the turn around too.
The Samsung 850 EVO is pretty cheap for 120GB storage at $56.
http://www.amazon.co.../?tag=pcpapi-20

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

DV McKenna, on 03 July 2015 - 02:06 PM, said:

As your probably aware, MWO likes tasty CPU cycles more so than raw graphics horsepower (although your 550Ti is pretty old now )
Im presuming that 2600 is the locked version.

The VM's i take it your running alongside MWO? In which case that's why your reaching your RAM limit otherwise 8GB would have been fine, so that's worth an increase.

SSD wise, Samsung make the best on the market atm, Crucial is another good brand and it seems since OCZ was brought up by Toshiba they are on the turn around too.
The Samsung 850 EVO is pretty cheap for 120GB storage at $56.
http://www.amazon.co.../?tag=pcpapi-20

Yeah, my 2600 is the locked version. I may or may not pick up one of the new i5s in a year or so and build an updated gaming rig and relegate this current tower to just work and tinkering.

I don't run the VMs concurrently with gaming anymore. I made that mistake once. JUST once. Talk about bad framerate...
but I don't think that's what's causing my memory issues. I haven't pinpointed my memory issue, but I decided to just order 8 more GB of RAM because why not? There's a sale on the ones I already own.

I was looking at the Samsung that you linked and got exactly what I was hoping for, someone here recommending it. A few guys I work with picked up the Mushkin ECO2 in bulk and are loving them: http://www.newegg.co...Item=20-226-678

You have any knowledge about the Mushkin you're willing to share?

Also, thanks for the response!

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Lord Scarlett Johan, on 03 July 2015 - 02:48 PM, said:

Yeah, my 2600 is the locked version. I may or may not pick up one of the new i5s in a year or so and build an updated gaming rig and relegate this current tower to just work and tinkering.

I don't run the VMs concurrently with gaming anymore. I made that mistake once. JUST once. Talk about bad framerate...
but I don't think that's what's causing my memory issues. I haven't pinpointed my memory issue, but I decided to just order 8 more GB of RAM because why not? There's a sale on the ones I already own.

I was looking at the Samsung that you linked and got exactly what I was hoping for, someone here recommending it. A few guys I work with picked up the Mushkin ECO2 in bulk and are loving them: http://www.newegg.co...Item=20-226-678

You have any knowledge about the Mushkin you're willing to share?

Also, thanks for the response!

That's odd, because MWO shouldn't (and doesn't on my system) use anywhere near 8GB, RAM is cheap so sure put more in if you want to, but you really should try and lockdown where that RAM is being eaten up rather than just leaving it.

The Mushkin drives are ok, their only downside is they still use the rather dated (and less reliable) Sandforce controller.
If the Samsung wasn't on sale, the Mushkin would be an ok buy...but the Samsung is on sale

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

DV McKenna, on 03 July 2015 - 02:54 PM, said:

That's odd, because MWO shouldn't (and doesn't on my system) use anywhere near 8GB, RAM is cheap so sure put more in if you want to, but you really should try and lockdown where that RAM is being eaten up rather than just leaving it.

The Mushkin drives are ok, their only downside is they still use the rather dated (and less reliable) Sandforce controller.
If the Samsung wasn't on sale, the Mushkin would be an ok buy...but the Samsung is on sale

No kidding, I'm currently trying to pinpoint my leak. I'm saving my important information at the moment (like music, pictures, docs, porn , etc...) and just wiping my harddrive and starting over from scratch. I really need to find that leak since it's starting to affect my apache VM.

I just ordered that Samsung, because it seems the better buy since it uses a newer controller.

[Lord Letto]

So you already got the RAM & SSD, Only other thing i'd do for now is upgrade the 550TI and a New PSU if Needed, I'm not sure what your budget is, but for starters, I'd recommend this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Video Card: Asus Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($97.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX XTR 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($81.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $179.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-03 19:30 EDT-0400

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

Lord Letto, on 03 July 2015 - 03:31 PM, said:

So you already got the RAM & SSD, Only other thing i'd do for now is upgrade the 550TI and a New PSU if Needed, I'm not sure what your budget is, but for starters, I'd recommend this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Video Card: Asus Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($97.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX XTR 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($81.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $179.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-03 19:30 EDT-0400

I've got an OCZ 600W in it already since I knew I was going to upgrade it a few years after building it. I was looking at picking up a GTX 770 in a few months when many go on sale. I try to stay away from Radeon cards when I can, I haven't had a good past with them.

Also, thanks for input!

[Goose]

Lord Scarlett Johan, on 03 July 2015 - 12:23 PM, said:

A planned upgrade is to simply double my RAM. I keep hitting close to 80-90% memory on my machine since the last few months of patches.

Game only seems to use 1.9 ~ 2.2GB of main memory, and that's with me setting a limit of 5GB …

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

Goose, on 03 July 2015 - 07:53 PM, said:

Game only seems to use 1.9 ~ 2.2GB of main memory, and that's with me setting a limit of 5GB …

How do you set a limit? After a while it begins to eat up close to 6GB on my machine.

[Goose]

To directly answer your question

sys_budget_sysmem = 5120

To head off the fallow-ons: http://mwomercs.com/...ost__p__4537018

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

Goose, on 03 July 2015 - 08:12 PM, said:

To directly answer your question

sys_budget_sysmem = 5120

To head off the fallow-ons: http://mwomercs.com/...ost__p__4537018

Awesome! Thanks!

[Goose]

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[Saint Scarlett Johan]

Goose, on 03 July 2015 - 08:25 PM, said:

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[Goose]

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Edited by Goose, 03 July 2015 - 09:04 PM.

[Lordred]

I've got a GTX-680 4gb Classified gathering dust.


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[Catamount]

Good choice on the SSD, OP. It's not just that the Mushkin uses an older controller, it's that it uses an older Sandforce controller, and that's a random drive suicide waiting to happen. The SF1200 in my Vertex II took a dump after only 6 months, drive unrecognizable to the computer, took out a three month semester project with it that I had to piece back together.

Samsung, by contrast, has drives that have held up in torture tests better than just about anyone else's.

[Goose]

Goose, on 03 July 2015 - 07:53 PM, said:

Game only seems to use 1.9 ~ 2.2GB of main memory, and that's with me setting a limit of 5GB …

Yeah; That's crap: I'm seeing 2.7 ~ 3.0 in game-play; The interesting part is how when I popped up to 3.1, then 3.4GB, the Scaleform Lag started … Took nine games to happen …