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[Man with Axe]

First of all, I know that PGI has an awful reputation of absolutely deaf to feedback company, which doesn't give a singe f... about what players say, but I still want to express my opinion about ridiculous point in the Zeus' model. Maybe some of you, fellow mechwarriors, would find it valid and similar to your own thoughts.

I sincerely can not understand or appreciate why so many Mechs got from PGI such bizarre weapons meshes (Highlander, Catapult etc), the very same negative opinion I have about visuals of missile weapons' tubes on Zeus ZEU-6T right arm. I just can't see why 20 tubes for LRMS are not good enough for any number of tubes for SRM missiles. Here some pictures to illustrate my words:

ZEU-6T with LRM20 in right arm


I find it resembling UB-32 rocket launcher a bit:

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But when I install 3xSRM6 I get some bloated Popeye sailor arm:


I can understand why it'd be required to change arm mesh when 2-3 LRM launchers with greater number of tubes installed, but why 20 tubes are not enough for 18 missiles?
Logic and effectiveness of a weapon are missing Aye, BattleTech is not about logic, I know, and the only indicator of effectiveness for PGI is the money milked from fans. But still...

Wishlisting a hero-Zeus as a bonus to the thread ↓

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If I could get any chance to design a hero-Zeus, then I would make it symmetric missile-boat with mandatory 6 missile hardpoints and some number of symmetric energy hardpoints in the torso. The revamp of missile tubes in arms would be mandatory too

My poor GIMP skill could produce only something like this:

P.S. Spoiler names don't work it seams.

Edited by Man with Axe, 19 July 2015 - 04:40 AM.

[Juodas Varnas]

That's the problem with their current hardpoint/hardpoint inflation approach.

When it comes to missiles, i always thought they should be limited not by the arbitrary hardpoint limit, but by the amount of missiles tubes.
For example, if a mech has 20 missile tubes and let's say ...3 hardpoints., so you can either put in a LRM20, 2xLRM10, 3xLRM5s, 3xSRM6, etc. As long as it doesn't go above the two limiting factors: it can't take up more than 3 hardpoints or 20 missile tubes. (With exceptions, for example the Atlas, which canonically had only 5 tubes, but had a rapid-firing LRM20, kind of like how it used to be, before the dynamic geometry updates)

But they're not going to change it.
Repeat after me: "Minimally Viable Product"

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 19 July 2015 - 05:14 AM.

[Nightshade24]

Personally would like the hero zues to have a very weird build...
Like in each arm it's approximately 1M 1B and the Side torsos and ct got E hardpoints (1 each?)
Load out being something like AC 10 and SRM 6 in Right arm, AC 2 and LRM 15 in the other arm, large laser in right torso and the CT and LT has a medium laser.
Appeals to both people who want non-ugly duel missiles, as well as people who want duel ballistics or both.

But anyway... missiles is an iffy topic...

[Sheriff Cinco]

I think the explanation for the extra bulk of multiple launchers is what you don't see. Each different launcher needs its own ammo feeding mechanism and other mechanicals. Also a keen observer can spot the different patterns and have a better idea what they are up against, even before the loadout pops up. I like that they didn't take the lazy way out and only use one graphic for all configs.

[Takashi Uchida]

Imagine getting socked in the cockpit with this bad boy