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#1 donut overdose

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Posted 01 August 2015 - 11:47 AM

Calling all MechWarriors! Sign this petition and let management know! Free the JJs!

#2 Armorine

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Posted 01 August 2015 - 11:48 AM

Will never happen but I support this

#3 Antares102

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Posted 01 August 2015 - 12:05 PM

View PostArmorine, on 01 August 2015 - 11:48 AM, said:

Will never happen but I support this

+1

#4 Monkey Lover

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Posted 01 August 2015 - 12:14 PM

No thanks just increase the masc to 20%

#5 Inveramsay

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Posted 01 August 2015 - 12:21 PM

+1

#6 aniviron

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Posted 01 August 2015 - 12:50 PM

There are mechs that need it a lot more. Summoner comes to mind. Nova and Mist Lynx are also good candidates.

Unlock the jets, period, or don't do it. But don't half-ass it.

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Posted 01 August 2015 - 01:18 PM

They wouldn't have to unlock all of them but some would be great. It definitely does not need all the JJs it has. This would free up a little space to make it more competitive.

#8 Drasari

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Posted 01 August 2015 - 01:20 PM

Yes please.

#9 Night Thastus

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Posted 01 August 2015 - 01:27 PM

Technically, in the lore you can't take out JJ's out of omnimechs because they are equipment. Unless, of course, there were omnipods that didn't have them, as we see on the Kitfox or the Timber, which can mount them, but don't have to.

To be fair, this means that PGI has implemented OmniMechs in the most true-to-lore way in any game so far. It's still garbage though, and should be changed.

All they'd need to do is just create varients/omnipods that lack them. It's not like it would be terribly difficult.

PGI has shown that they are willing to do this when they removed the hard-locked flamer on the adder. They can do it again. I believe in them.

It would be a huge boost to the Summoner, Myst Lynx, Nova and Shadow Cat. The executioner is already pretty beast, but I'd take it on that too.

#10 Tristan Winter

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Posted 01 August 2015 - 01:41 PM

I wanted them to break the rules for the Adder, mostly because PGI has arbitrarily decided not to make the flamer any good.

I kind of wanted it for the Mist Lynx, simply because the 3D design of the Mist was an additional cross to carry for an omnimech that was always a bad candidate for the unique rules of MWO, and as a result, the Mist Lynx needed every bit of help it could get.

I don't really want them to change the jump jets, because it's not necessary. Just buff the jump jets to the point where they're worth carrying. That's all you need to do. When jump jets become so useful that people consider them their biggest strengths, no one will want to remove them. So just do a combination of blanket buffing and chassis-specific quirking to make the jump jets better and... voila! Problem solved. Slippery slope avoided.

EDIT: Having said that- if it was possible to remove jump jets in lore and TT, then... yeah, just do it.

Edited by Tristan Winter, 01 August 2015 - 01:42 PM.


#11 Scout Derek

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Posted 01 August 2015 - 01:46 PM

No.

You should be asking this but for the Summomer, shame on you.

#12 Deathlike

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Posted 01 August 2015 - 01:52 PM

View Postaniviron, on 01 August 2015 - 12:50 PM, said:

There are mechs that need it a lot more. Summoner comes to mind. Nova and Mist Lynx are also good candidates.

Unlock the jets, period, or don't do it. But don't half-ass it.


To be fair, I would like the removal of BAP on the Mist Lynx. That precious tonnage would be another DHS...

#13 Khobai

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Posted 01 August 2015 - 01:56 PM

They need to unlock jumpjets on all non-S omnipods.

jumpjets should only be locked on the S omnipods.

#14 Andi Nagasia

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Posted 01 August 2015 - 04:58 PM

Agree and actually have a Topic about just this, but also much more,

(Letting Omnimechs Remove Jump-Jets & Non-Dhs Locked Equipment!),
its about unlocking all JJ and other Non-DHS Equipment on OmniMechs,
(this Includes IS OmniMechs when we finally get them as well),

and (Should All Omni-Mechs Be-Able To Equip Jj As Per Tt Rules And Lore? Discussion!)
this is about giving OmniMechs an Upgrade Option allowing to Upgrade/Downgrade JJs,
(this Includes IS OmniMechs when we finally get them as well),

Edited by Andi Nagasia, 01 August 2015 - 05:01 PM.


#15 Elkfire

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Posted 01 August 2015 - 05:34 PM

I'd rather bump its MASC up to canon levels of 130 kph, or unlock that instead. At least the former would help mitigate the chassis' other issues.

Edited by Elkfire, 01 August 2015 - 05:36 PM.


#16 Durant Carlyle

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Posted 01 August 2015 - 08:32 PM

They should just unlock everything on every robot already. This ceased being any kind of BattleTech game a long time ago, so they should drop the pretense.

That way anybody can use any robot they want, and any weapon they want, in any location they want. Just make it MechWarrior 2 with updated graphics. Bring back the super skater jets too.

#17 Mister Blastman

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Posted 01 August 2015 - 09:02 PM

Not until my Suckoner™ gets endo/ferro/jet/engine swaps whenever I want.

#18 SmoothCriminal

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Posted 01 August 2015 - 10:16 PM

I think general unlocking of FF/ES and components is a must for certain clan mechs (nigh too many to list) to keep up with their unbalanced brethren. I just do not know how one would counter balance IS mechs with this general overhaul (my suggestions would be a structure buff to STD engines and allow IS XLs to function like clan ones).

#19 MauttyKoray

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Posted 01 August 2015 - 11:02 PM

View Postdonut overdose, on 01 August 2015 - 11:47 AM, said:

Calling all MechWarriors! Sign this petition and let management know! Free the JJs!

How about... NO.

Also, no unlocking of the upgrades either, that's just stupid and violates the construction rules. I'm not even happy the MLX and Adder got 1 each of theirs unlinked...the Adder mostly I'm annoyed about, but its a pilot's own fault for not learning to pilot the thing properly.

Edited by MauttyKoray, 01 August 2015 - 11:03 PM.


#20 Deathlike

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Posted 01 August 2015 - 11:26 PM

View PostMauttyKoray, on 01 August 2015 - 11:02 PM, said:

How about... NO.

Also, no unlocking of the upgrades either, that's just stupid and violates the construction rules. I'm not even happy the MLX and Adder got 1 each of theirs unlinked...the Adder mostly I'm annoyed about, but its a pilot's own fault for not learning to pilot the thing properly.


What did the MLX get again?

Only the Adder benefits from the high mounted CT not-flamer.





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