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[Awesome Krauser]

i know the Free world League is somewhat a Latin Faction but is a combined faction? with many different people? or is there going to be a Latin faction cause that would be epic, not many games puts latins in a important place

[Mortimir]

Honestly not trying to be obtuse, but what is a latin? The Romans spoke latin, but they don't exist anymore (except as genetic donors to most of the countries in Europe / North Africa). There's a reason they call it a dead language.

The way I've always understood it:

Federated Suns: English/Americans
Draconis Combine: Japanese (duh!)
Lyran Commonwealth: German
Free Worlds League: French (not sure about this one)
Capellan Confederation: Chinese

If any of the above is wrong, I trust that someone more knowledgeable will correct me. Also, not sure what the periphery nations are supposed to be modeled on..

Duh: Forgot about the Marian Hegemony. They were based on the Roman Empire and use Roman (ie Latin) terminology for almost everything. However, they are periphery, so will not be in the game as a faction, at least not at launch.

Edited by Mortimir, 08 July 2012 - 07:04 PM.

[Bombast]

Federated Sun - French primary, Everything secondary
Draconis Combine - Every race, with a Japanese culture (Actually not of japanese decent for the most part)
Lyrans - German primary, Europe (Other) secondary
Free Worlds - American primary, Everything secondry
Capellan Condfederation - Chinese primary, Asia (Other) secondary, Evil thirdly

If your talking about Latinos, then no. There is no faction that is primarly Latino.

Bombast, on 01 July 2012 - 10:17 PM, said:

Steiner - 'Good Guys.' Status defined almost entirely by power (Through birth) and wealth (Think ultra-capitalist). Power maintained primarly through secret wars, and state sponsered terrorism/anti-terrorism. Recent history has Steiner leaning towards a moral-pragmatism, baring lesser noble choices. Eventually takes part in Steiner-Davion civil war. Home to Kell's Hounds, arguably the best Mercenry group. Military focuses heavily on overwhelming firepower through heavy and assulat class units.

Davion - 'Good Guys.' Personal freedom and personal responsability paramount to society. Military service optional, but social encouraged. Military service mandatory for many head state positions. Head of state and 'Marches' (Individual states inside of whole) determined by birth and military service, while most other positions filled by democratic process. Home of Hanse Davion, arguably the greatest House Leader ever born. Considered one of the 2 greatest military powers in the Inner Sphere, and responsable for much of the most recent scientific progress in the Inner Sphere. Eventually takes part in Steiner-Davion civil war. Military focuses largely on modular regimental units, with great use of mixed combat arms and light through heavy units (Assualt units present, but full assault units rarer then in other Houses). See US military structure for close analogy. House Davion 's goals are often based on moral grounds, but methods vary, from political manuavering to assassination.

Marik - 'Good Guys.' Large group of 'independent' states. Based largely on early democratic governents, if they existed in a Warhammer 40k universe. Almost constantly gripped in near state of cival war. Individual leaders highly moral, but are easily provoked into conflict by other Marik leaders. Currently ruled by Comstar placed figurehead. Has largest base of surviving cultures. Military has no individual focus. For majority of novelized history, plays little to no part in Inner Sphere politics due to in fighting, While it rarely exerts force outside of its borders in a focused way, its military is powerful enough where the threat of force is taken seriously.

Laio - 'Bad Guys.' Majority of recent history has been ruled by cruel, and often mentally unstable rulers. Weakest military structure in Inner Sphere. State before all else is social norm, and the head of House Laio is often put in a God like perspective. Uses immoral means for immoral ends. Maintains death cults and wide spread terrorism units. Military focused on lighter scale individual units, with a great difference between elite military commands and standard commands. Recent history has seen Laio fall and rise, first torn apart by Hanse Davion (Based, arguably, on moral grounds), and then built back up in the aftermath of the Davion-Steiner civil war.

Kurita - 'Good Guys.' Government based on birth. Military service by nobility socially mandatory. State before all else social norm. State based heavily on Japanese historical society, with a major focus on Bushido. Honor in all things is ingrained into all levels in society, and standing is based heavily on honor. Underhanded practices are discouraged heavily, and anyone who is found participaring in such dealings can be severly punished. Considered one of the two major military powers in the Inner Sphere. Military strength is spread across the spectrum, with a center on Mech combat. Dueling is acceptable practice during military engagements. Motives usually based on moral grounds, though honor is often considered more important.

Just a quick over view of what I remember from my novels. Unfortinatly, the novels mostly cover Laio (Bad Guys), Davion (Always Good), Steiner (Always good, but always infested with bad people) and Kurita (Good people, bad country).

My loyalty is obviously not a matter of question. But as someone who's first taste of Battletech was the 4th Succession Wars novels, can anyone blame me?

Edited by Bombast, 08 July 2012 - 07:29 PM.

[buckaroo]

Camacho's Caballeros

[CaveMan]

Nueva Castille is entirely Spanish.

They're not gonna be in MWO though.

[Strum Wealh]

buckaroo, on 08 July 2012 - 09:44 PM, said:

Camacho's Caballeros

Though, that is a Merc Company, rather than a proper "Faction".

Awesome Krauser, on 08 July 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:

i know the Free world League is somewhat a Latin Faction but is a combined faction? with many different people? or is there going to be a Latin faction cause that would be epic, not many games puts latins in a important place

Not so much with the IS, no.

• Federated Suns/House Davion: essentially the British Empire, with additional French overtones
  
• Lyran Commonwealth/House Steiner: essentially the Holy Roman Empire, with heavy German overtones
  
• Draconis Combine/House Kurita: essentially early Showa Era (roundabout WWI/WWII) Japan, with a smattering of other cultures (mainly Arabic) represented
  
• Capellan Confederation/House Liao: essentially Qing Dynasty Era China, with a smattering of other cultures (mainly Russian and Scottish) represented
  
• Free Worlds League/House Marik: essentially the Ottoman Empire, with some Indian and American overtones
  
• Free Rasalhague Republic: essentially the Swedish Empire, with some American overtones

Nueva Castile and the Umayyad Caliphate were settled by Iberians (Spanish/Portuguese), but are located in the Deep Periphery and are highly unlikely to ever be playable factions in MWO.

The planet Poznan (originally Capellan, currently part of the Davion side of Federated Commonwealth) is described as having a strong Spanish heritage.
Likewise, the Duchy of Tamarind-Abbey (part of the Free Worlds League) seems to have a notable Hispanic influence.

[Hayden]

Marion Hegemony is pretty damn "Latin" at this point.

[Damascas]

Marian Hegemony are by far the most Latin. There is a group in the FWL that is sorta Italian and a tad in the Federated Suns but really only seen on a planet or two due to their religion.

[Strum Wealh]

Hayden, on 09 July 2012 - 03:48 AM, said:

Marion Hegemony is pretty damn "Latin" at this point.

Damascas, on 09 July 2012 - 05:53 AM, said:

Marian Hegemony are by far the most Latin. There is a group in the FWL that is sorta Italian and a tad in the Federated Suns but really only seen on a planet or two due to their religion.

So, I don't know if these were supposed to be a subtle attempt at corrective pedantry... but given that the Krauser's location is listed as Venezuela, it seems rather likely that Krauser probably meant "Latin" as in "Latin American" (and, possibly, their mostly-Iberian relations) rather than "Italic Latin"/"Latini".

That is, I would imagine that he's looking for the faction with which he could most-closely identify/sympathize on a linguistic and cultural level, and in which he is more likely to meet other players from his region and/or cultural background....

[Damascas]

Strum Wealh, on 09 July 2012 - 06:06 AM, said:

So, I don't know if these were supposed to be a subtle attempt at corrective pedantry... but given that the Krauser's location is listed as Venezuela, it seems rather likely that Krauser probably meant "Latin" as in "Latin American" (and, possibly, their mostly-Iberian relations) rather than "Italic Latin"/"Latini".

That is, I would imagine that he's looking for the faction with which he could most-closely identify/sympathize on a linguistic and cultural level, and in which he is more likely to meet other players from his region and/or cultural background....

I did not check his location and just assumed he meant a faction similar to Rome or Italy.

[Schtirlitz]

Create a Roman Empire corp and conquer a lot of periferial worlds