Posted 09 July 2012 - 08:52 PM
このゲーム８０年代に創作した当時の関係者に日本語・日本文化に詳しい方ゼロ。おかげさまで絶対ありえないバカけた人名や意味不明の地名、「オーサムライーミンナイツモハラキリマース」のような旧帝国軍のサル真似軍団が正規軍で、「THIS IS JAPAN」と勘違いしてるヤツが多いワケ。ま、仕方なし。
Edited by Raizo Nishizawa, 09 July 2012 - 09:16 PM.
Posted 10 July 2012 - 06:48 AM
Posted 10 July 2012 - 09:02 AM
いや、理解してないと認識したほうが正解でしょう。最近イラついて原本の Field Manual: Draconis Combine を手に入れてもう一度読むことにしたんですけどね。ロープレにかなり深入りの方、Kurita 陣ではやたら多いですから。
Edited by Hayashi, 07 August 2012 - 01:14 AM.
Posted 10 July 2012 - 10:34 PM
When FASA created the backstory for the Draconis Combine in the 80s, it was a mix of Imperial Japan and the Sengoku Era. Back then, Japanese culture was portrayed as something like the Shogun TV miniseries and B-movies like The Challenge. The result is Combine culture is the funhouse mirror version of Japan.
Many names for individuals (Hohiro, Kitsune) and planets (Kirei na Niwa) in the BT universe are nonsense. If there were Steiner Mechs with names like DerSchutzenRobo someone would throw up the BS card with a quickness, but the excuse is "Well, it's a thousand years in the future" from non-Japanese speakers when it comes to Kurita. House Steiner isn't a clone of Nazi Germany and Der Ring des Nibelungen, but the Combine is a repackaged Japanese Empire circa 1942 complete with harakiri and Bushido.
Not that this actually matters much since this is MWO and not some cracked out RPG, but it takes constant of suspension of disbelief to not go "Are you kidding me?" when it comes to the Combine backstory, if you are actually Japanese or live in Japan.
Edited by Hayashi, 07 August 2012 - 01:15 AM.
Posted 11 July 2012 - 03:48 AM
Posted 07 August 2012 - 01:26 AM
And, due to a quarrel earlier, all posts related to that quarrel have been erased. When typing, please try to understand each other's feelings, and keep the peace in the forums. Thanks for your cooperation.
Posted 04 April 2013 - 10:43 PM
Apparently whoever created Battletech universe is not exactly familiar with east Asia...I mean c'mon you got a giant Japanese navy flag on a 'Mech with a Chinese name! (yup I mean YLW)
Well, still better than House Liao I guess...in my whole life I've had the chance to meet less than five people who actually has a family name "廖" :/
Also this is ridiculous.
Edited by Helmstif, 04 April 2013 - 10:45 PM.
Posted 01 May 2013 - 06:31 PM
But in the case of the Draconis Combine, there are mitigating circumstances involved.
In BT, there is a difference between planets or star-nations which have what one could refer to as a "top-down" dose of social engineering, and others which are more "bottom-up" in terms of colonists bringing certain cultures with them from Terra and seeing them set writ large in their new areas of space. (Of course, one could argue that a certain mixture of both dynamics can be in play no matter where in the human sphere you go, but how and ever.)
One good example of the "top-down" approach is in the Marian Hegemony, best covered in Handbook: Major Periphery States. Johann Sebastian O'Reilly was originally from the world of Booker in the Magistracy of Canopus, who brought an interest in Ancient Rome with him on his travels. (Or maybe he just got a little carried away at one too many toga parties; the Canopians have a reputation of their own to consider, after all.) So, when he struck it rich on Alphard and found himself in a position to bankroll the founding of his own Periphery state, he had the perfect opportunity to style it with all of the faux-Roman trappings he could get away with; patricians, plebians, slaves, the works. He wasn't the first man to try and pull this kind of stunt; Hector Worthington Rowe got a little carried away with Platonic ideals (and helotry) when founding the Rim Worlds Republic. However, while the RWR gradually dropped such trappings and evolved along a different cultural path, successive generations of Marians bought enough into the "space Roman" idea to allow the Hegemony to carry them into the modern era.
On the other end of the scale, there is the Axumite Providence, detailed in ISP3 (which is well worth checking out, I might add).
Of the two, the Combine is really more of the former case than the latter. When the Alliance of Galedon started to exert its power and influence over the worlds of the coreward-spinward Inner Sphere, it had no overtly cultural bias behind its development. (Even on New Samarkand, the community which Shiro Kurita came from was but one of many; and he himself was arguably more of an extremist in terms of his political and cultural views than many of his contemporaries.) When Shiro took the step of usurping the Alliance by turning it into the Draconis Combine, the same kind of "top-down" social engineering which Johann Sebastian O'Reilly imposed to get his "space Rome" was carried out by Shiro in order to turn his ideas of "space Japan" into reality.
It should be noted that there are other groups of Japanese descent in the Inner Sphere, such as on New Kyoto. Even BT-verse Japan itself is arguably closer to modern-day Japan than the "fabricated" culture promoted in the Combine. (Indeed, Japan has been featured in the Terran campaigns highlighted in Jihad Hot Spots: Terra and Historical: Liberation of Terra II. Notably, part of the task force sent to Japan in the Jihad-era campaign was from the DCMS... and they were not popular among the locals.)
I suppose it's only natural that the Combine would draw the most attention (and controversy) in terms of what it may say about future editions of past or present Earth cultures; not least since the Dracs are the most overt of the Successor States in terms of promoting their cultural
Edited by Nerroth, 01 May 2013 - 06:43 PM.
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