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Repasy, on 20 November 2015 - 02:16 PM, said:
True, this is not a direct translation to tabletop, and so neither are my Zellbrigen rulings. In the case of rules section 5.v and 5.vi, I have included a note (section 5.iii). I will clarify on that clause: the interpretation of section 5.iv, 5.v, and 5.vi is meant to be deliberative. There are cases where the actions are easily forgiven, such as whether it was accidental, proved a tactical purpose, or (most importantly) was not intentionally dishonourable. Clan honour should be upheld at all times, and so excessively using terrain or distance to your advantage intentionally is deeply frowned upon, resulting in forfeit (section 5.ii).
Using terrain, even excessively, is not dishonorable & frowned upon & does not result in a forfeit unless all you are doing is hiding. You can reference Bloodname, the second novel in the Jade Phoenix Trilogy to confirm this.
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For this fight, Aidan's Summoner was configured entirely with long-range missiles, plus a narc beacon. Marthe wondered if it might not be wise to keep some of the other armament or at least add some medium lasers, but both Joanna and Aidan wanted to go for everything.
"What if he gets in close?"
"I will risk it," Aidan said.
"He will risk it," Joanna said.
"Yeah, risk," Horse coarsely agreed.
Aidan's foe, a MechWarrior named Machiko, would be in a Hellbringer. That would not affect Aidan's strategy, which had been devised to operate against whatever type 'Mech entered the field against him.Joanna studied the terrain, which was relatively flat for an island. She decided that Machiko had chosen it to prevent Aidan from being able to carry out any elaborate maneuvers. If Aidan kept his distance, however, the strategy for this battle was viable.
As soon as he saw the signal to begin, Aidan executed a ground-skimming jump right at the Hellbringer. Machiko meanwhile took the opportunity to chip away at the Summoner's armor with her medium laser and a PPC.
As soon as he was close enough, Aidan fired his narc missile beacon launcher at the Hellbringer. The specialized missile struck the other 'Mech and attached itself. His mission successful, Aidan jumped back to his original point near the shore of the island. He was conscious of the water lapping gently at his heels as he fired volley after volley at the Hellbringer, each missile homing in on the song that the narc beacon sang to it.
As Aidan had hoped, the battle was soon over. Machiko's Hellbringer was so shredded by the missiles that it was not long before it was rendered completely helpless.
"What if he gets in close?"
"I will risk it," Aidan said.
"He will risk it," Joanna said.
"Yeah, risk," Horse coarsely agreed.
Aidan's foe, a MechWarrior named Machiko, would be in a Hellbringer. That would not affect Aidan's strategy, which had been devised to operate against whatever type 'Mech entered the field against him.Joanna studied the terrain, which was relatively flat for an island. She decided that Machiko had chosen it to prevent Aidan from being able to carry out any elaborate maneuvers. If Aidan kept his distance, however, the strategy for this battle was viable.
As soon as he saw the signal to begin, Aidan executed a ground-skimming jump right at the Hellbringer. Machiko meanwhile took the opportunity to chip away at the Summoner's armor with her medium laser and a PPC.
As soon as he was close enough, Aidan fired his narc missile beacon launcher at the Hellbringer. The specialized missile struck the other 'Mech and attached itself. His mission successful, Aidan jumped back to his original point near the shore of the island. He was conscious of the water lapping gently at his heels as he fired volley after volley at the Hellbringer, each missile homing in on the song that the narc beacon sang to it.
As Aidan had hoped, the battle was soon over. Machiko's Hellbringer was so shredded by the missiles that it was not long before it was rendered completely helpless.
1. This was a battle in a Trial of Bloodright to earn the highest honor any Clansman can achieve.
2. These were the Jade Falcons who were considered even among the Clans to be hidebound traditionalists when it came to honor.
3. The results stood & Aidan moved on to the next round. He was neither disqualified for his weapon selection nor his strategy.
Repasy, on 20 November 2015 - 02:16 PM, said:
Failing to fire at an opponent (section 5.vi) is also dishonourable, whether it is as an act of mercy or as an act of ridicule (turning your back to a crippled enemy would probably be the worst display of honour and be subject to immediate forfeit and stripping of rank). In layman's terms, a true Clan Warrior will finish their prey with precision and haste, and the act of annihilating the enemy without hesitation is in of itself an act of honourable mercy. In MWO, it is difficult to judge where range barriers lie, and depending on the location of the COE line-of-sight obstructions may be impossible to avoid. For this reason, the best COE are open and flat areas that give a clear line-of-sight to your opponent.
Again that is TT & the same rules do not work for a MW game. If my weapons are charged, I can choose to fire or not fire at my discretion. There is nothing dishonorable about it. If you had a gauss rifle in your mech & it was the most powerful weapon you had, it would be prudent to focus on taking that out first to reduce the damage you could do to me, then move on to finish you off. A warrior would wait for you to turn your mech's body in such a way as to get a shot on the gauss rifle the same way we target the side torsos of IS mechs with XL engines. If I got the LT or RT of such a mech crit, I would hold fire until the enemy turned the exposed section to me again to finish him off.
Repasy, on 20 November 2015 - 02:16 PM, said:
In layman's terms, a true Clan Warrior will finish their prey with precision and haste
Let us deal with the precision part first,
You are contradicting yourself here. It is for that exact reason why we hold fire to hit a section we have already targeted instead of shooting all over the place. Clansmen take pride in being able to target specific parts of an enemy, doing the most damage with the least effort.
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Both of the Masakari's PPCs and its large pulse lasers successfully hit the Daishi's damaged right leg, evaporating the last bit of armor like a water droplet on a hot griddle. The four energy beams combined to melt the leg clean away. Myomer muscles bubbled and exploded. The ferro-titanium femur glowed white-hot before it became transparent and insubstantial.
Their energy insufficiently spent, the beams tracked upward. Burning through the remnants of armor on the Daishi's right side, they touched off an explosion of the anti-missile system's ammo. The concussion panels in his command couch smashed into Victor's back and neurohelmet, momentarily disorienting him. The cockpit whirled him around as if his 100-ton war machine were a rag doll caught in a cyclone, then unceremoniously bashed him again as the 'Mech pounded into the ground.
Victor shook his head to clear it and found himself hanging from the restraining straps of the command couch. Focusing beyond the holographic display that showed the Masakari getting back to its taloned feet, he saw only blackness through the viewports. His eyes confirmed what gravity had already told him—that his 'Mech had landed face-down in the dirt. With only one leg and my right-side armor breached front and back, there's no way I can continue the fight.
Glancing at the approaching Masakari in the display, he mentally amended that idea. And there's no way Ranna is going to let me continue the fight. I can't even punch out!
Leaving no doubt as to why the BattleMech had ruled warfare since its creation six centuries earlier, the Masakari concentrated all four of its guns on the downed Daishi. Aiming in deliberate and well-practiced moves that showed Victor why the Clans had so easily swept through the Inner Sphere, the Masakari opened the Daishi's back like a coroner doing an autopsy. The PPC bolts fried structural stabilizers while the lasers sliced through ferro-titanium ribs.
The lasers freed the Daishi's fusion engine from its mountings. It dropped down, the safeguards in it snuffing the reaction before it could explode. As if the Masakari had pulled the Daishi's heart out, Victor's 'Mech shuddered once, then all the monitors died, leaving him hanging in a hot, dark cocoon.
Their energy insufficiently spent, the beams tracked upward. Burning through the remnants of armor on the Daishi's right side, they touched off an explosion of the anti-missile system's ammo. The concussion panels in his command couch smashed into Victor's back and neurohelmet, momentarily disorienting him. The cockpit whirled him around as if his 100-ton war machine were a rag doll caught in a cyclone, then unceremoniously bashed him again as the 'Mech pounded into the ground.
Victor shook his head to clear it and found himself hanging from the restraining straps of the command couch. Focusing beyond the holographic display that showed the Masakari getting back to its taloned feet, he saw only blackness through the viewports. His eyes confirmed what gravity had already told him—that his 'Mech had landed face-down in the dirt. With only one leg and my right-side armor breached front and back, there's no way I can continue the fight.
Glancing at the approaching Masakari in the display, he mentally amended that idea. And there's no way Ranna is going to let me continue the fight. I can't even punch out!
Leaving no doubt as to why the BattleMech had ruled warfare since its creation six centuries earlier, the Masakari concentrated all four of its guns on the downed Daishi. Aiming in deliberate and well-practiced moves that showed Victor why the Clans had so easily swept through the Inner Sphere, the Masakari opened the Daishi's back like a coroner doing an autopsy. The PPC bolts fried structural stabilizers while the lasers sliced through ferro-titanium ribs.
The lasers freed the Daishi's fusion engine from its mountings. It dropped down, the safeguards in it snuffing the reaction before it could explode. As if the Masakari had pulled the Daishi's heart out, Victor's 'Mech shuddered once, then all the monitors died, leaving him hanging in a hot, dark cocoon.
Natural Selection Pg. 61-62
We are surgeons not butchers like the spheroids.
As to your point about haste, this is a Trial of Grievance. The main word here is grievance. Clansmen do not want those fights over quickly. There is no haste. One party has a grudge against another party & both have chosen to forego having the Clan Council or Grand Council settle the matter. The fight is supposed to be brutal. Each blow is supposed to cause excruciating pain if the fight is unaugmented or if it is augmented, each shot that successfully registers is supposed to fill the opponent with dread & despair.
Repasy, on 20 November 2015 - 02:16 PM, said:
Not responding indicates one of two possibilities: The challenged has chosen to refuse/ignore the challenge, or the challenged has not yet been notified of the challenge in the first place. In the latter case, I have been more than reasonable in awaiting a reply from Soy. I can confirm that he has been logged in on several occasions since after my challenge, however because he has blocked me from personal communication I am unable to confirm whether or not he has seen my challenge. I also have reason to believe that since he has blocked me that can be interpreted as a refusal of my terms. In this case, refusal of a call to Trial is a grave offence to our code of honour!! Due to the circumstances, it is in his best interest to respond to and accept my challenge, as any other action calls into question his honour and legitimacy as a Warrior of the Clans.
I will stick to my original point on no response.
Repasy, on 20 November 2015 - 02:16 PM, said:
I understand your concerns in this regard. However, as I see it setting the map to random for a Trial increases the chances for either party to outcry the terms or the outcome of the Trial. My terms allow for both parties to define what they consider a proper location for dueling.
Actually the contrary is true which is why I offered the suggestion. Whatever map one party suggests, the other party will assume it is because it will give the first party some sort of advantage. A random map means both parties have to go with the game, not an actual person's selection. If I am using a Nova with 12 Small Pulse Lasers, I do not want an open map, I want something that offers multiple sections for CQC & I definitely do not want a hot map, I want a cold one or at the very least one with normal temperature.
To use your own words,
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This ensures that neither combatant can later question the setting as unfair, as the third party is neutral
What could be more neutral than a program that has no stake in the Trial?
Edited by Jaroth Corbett, 21 November 2015 - 03:51 AM.
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