Pugsley, on 04 August 2012 - 09:42 PM, said:
I do like how so many Davion fanboys are all cool with picking on the smallest kid on the block for centuries, and think it's great that ol' Hansey announced an unprovoked full scale invasion at his wedding, then talk about how evil the CC is for "underhanded" tactics. Same goes for their social customs, The Suns can afford to have countless worlds filled with illiterate farmers, the Capellans cannot. And so in order to survive, some freedoms must be sacrificed, everyone needs to pull their weight. Hardly evil, just pragmatic. And it was primarily the Suns that forced them into this system.
I think the perriphery worlds, and the FRR are the smallest kids on the block. But in politics its not all about the size of your enemy, its about how big a treat they are to your security, or how much they stand in the way of your plans. Size only matters in what solutions you can apply to your problem.
Every country on the world has this disconect between how they perceive themselfs and their history. You can go about everywhere look up the local black pages in history and find people claiming its the greatest country on Earth.
But its our evil neighbours that make us need to have that big millitary so we can defend ourselfs but not educate everybody. (or we can just claim that the writers had to write something bad about us, and came up with that, not like a 400 planet star empire cant come up with the cash to have some basic schooling and teachers.)
I also liked how you cut off that last sarna quote right before it started talking about how everyone gets full educations completely funded by the state, and how you neglected to mention that all the sourceboks make it a point to say that family values are a very high priority in the CC, and regardless of the technical status of the children, families are only broken up in very extreme case, such as abuse, etc.
[Waring, Davion views may be the same or the opposite of your views depending on what planet you life]
Liao Educator: Okay now kids, repeat my words, the CCAF is the greatest House, we where put on these planets to rule over all the other planets, we shall smite the evil Davions that have been pestering us for so long, you will be the generation that will drive them back to hell. etc etc etc. Yep its free, and will get you in the right mood to do something constructive.
All of the great houses are deeply flawed, bu the CC actually has a reason for its flaws. The Fed Suns could educate and ensure a better quality of life for their citizens, but they don't. The Dracs could not be the most hypocritical group in the known universe, but its easier to pretend they aren't. The Lyrans could stop being so currupt, but money! The FWL could stop killing more of each other than of actual bad guys, but they're purple and kind of retarded. The Cappies could fight "fairly" and not create a society where the state comes first, but then they would stop existing.
When they wrote it they should have spread around some more flaws and good things. Then again it was the 80ties when they started writing.
As for crazy leaders, well, that's a thing, but you can hardly call the CC evil as a whole because they where the de facto bad guy until the clans showed up, and having evil crazy despot communist yellow slanty eyed leaders was the easiest way for lazy writers to get that across in the 80's.
Hey hey now dont dispell our propaganda, next we will see Davions and Liao sitting in a bar peacefully drinking sake, and discussing the value of the Kroner while a Marik is mixing the drinks.
Edited by Qin, 06 August 2012 - 02:31 AM.