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[HI I Have Crippling Depression]

where is it? copyright stuck?
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Phoenix_Hawk

[CDLord HHGD]

Soon™





Hopefully™

[rolly]

They're probably saving it as an "ace in the hole" when things go sour and need something to distract the player base.

[FupDup]

Have you not been around the past year or so?

The copyright issues are pretty much solved, there are already multiple previously "unseen" mechs in the game right now. The Phoenix Hawk is no longer legally barred from the game.

The only obstacle is PGI's whim on deciding what gundam packs to release. Given that the PHX is a medium mech, it probably won't get remotely as much attention as unseen heavies (Marry, Whammy, Rifle, Archy, etc.) or iconic assaults (e.g. Kodiak).

[Metus regem]

FupDup, on 04 February 2016 - 03:13 PM, said:

Have you not been around the past year or so?

The copyright issues are pretty much solved, there are already multiple previously "unseen" mechs in the game right now. The Phoenix Hawk is no longer legally barred from the game.

The only obstacle is PGI's whim on deciding what gundam packs to release. Given that the PHX is a medium mech, it probably won't get remotely as much attention as unseen heavies (Marry, Whammy, Rifle, Archy, etc.) or iconic assaults (e.g. Kodiak).

Still she is one of four mechs that will get me to toss more money on the fire....

Phoenix Hawk
Stinger
Wasp
Coyotl

[Narcissistic Martyr]

To put it simply, mediums and lights don't sell as well as heavies and assaults so we'll get it. You know... eventually.

[C E Dwyer]

As going back to four packs was mentioned in the town hall,

Longbow
Crusader
Phoenix Hawk
Wasp with Stinger as a reinforcement.

Personally I think the longbow sucks but my wallet might come out of retirement for the other four

[CycKath]

Cathy, on 04 February 2016 - 03:54 PM, said:

As going back to four packs was mentioned in the town hall,

Longbow
Crusader
Phoenix Hawk
Wasp with Stinger as a reinforcement.

Personally I think the longbow sucks but my wallet might come out of retirement for the other four

Town hall also mentioned we would be getting one last solo pack Classic as well before they went back to 4-packs, first of which would be Clan Omnis, while we still have a glut of heavies (Ostroc and Ostsol) that could be PH.

[ArchMage Sparrowhawk]

rolly, on 04 February 2016 - 03:11 PM, said:

They're probably saving it as an "ace in the hole" when things go sour and need something to distract the player base.

this only works if its an LAM. there are only so many times you can use the "forgiveness for anything" card

[PocketAces]

I would buy the $h!t out of the Phoenix Hawk and Crusader, although we could do away with the leg missile hardpoints.

[martian]

ArchMage Sparrowhawk, on 04 February 2016 - 11:05 PM, said:

this only works if its an LAM. there are only so many times you can use the "forgiveness for anything" card

I think the "Phoenix Hawk card" will work for PGI quite nicely.

Agile 45-tonner - with higher engine cap than both Blackjack and Vindicator - with cool appearance. Perhaps with ECM (depending on the variant chosen). Shoulder-mounted energy hardpoint.

Especially good for people bored with four IS Heavies in a row and wishing to try a Medium 'Mech for a change.

PocketAces, on 04 February 2016 - 11:21 PM, said:

I would buy the $h!t out of the Phoenix Hawk and Crusader, although we could do away with the leg missile hardpoints.

PGI will probably move those Crusader's leg hardpoints to side torsos.

[Homeskilit]

I would rather have the Valkyrie, 30 ton light mech with jj, laser, and missile hard points.

Now that I think about it, those will probably be a 4 pack: Stinger, Wasp, Valkyrie, Phoenix Hawk.

Edited by Homeskilit, 05 February 2016 - 12:25 AM.

[Bregor Edain]

ArchMage Sparrowhawk, on 04 February 2016 - 11:05 PM, said:

this only works if its an LAM. there are only so many times you can use the "forgiveness for anything" card

Where did you get the idea that all PH's where LAMs? The majority of its variants where regular mechs.

[Alistair Winter]

I dunno. A 45 ton humanoid mech with lasers, jump jets and ECM does sound like it could be fun, but it's probably going to be hardpoint-starved. That's the problem with all these classic mechs that were carrying a few big energy weapons. They tend not to benefit so much from the hardpoint inflation.

[Lykaon]

Bregor Edain, on 05 February 2016 - 03:24 AM, said:

Where did you get the idea that all PH's where LAMs? The majority of its variants where regular mechs.

Early printings of Technical Readout 3025 I would guess.

The first published LAMs were the Stinger,Wasp and Phoenix Hawk.

But I think what they meant was a LAM would be super NEW! and a big shiny to divert attention away from some other issue.

Edited by Lykaon, 05 February 2016 - 03:42 AM.

[mogs01gt]

Periclitor, on 04 February 2016 - 03:10 PM, said:

where is it? copyright stuck?
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Phoenix_Hawk

The only way it would be useful in MWO is if it was scaled down to ridiculous levels. The Vindi already exists and it already cant compete with lighter or bigger mechs. Low slung arms FTL!

Edited by mogs01gt, 05 February 2016 - 05:55 AM.

[rolly]

Periclitor, on 04 February 2016 - 03:10 PM, said:

where is it? copyright stuck?
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Phoenix_Hawk

Wait. Aren't we suppose to taking a swig of a drink by now?

[rolly]

ArchMage Sparrowhawk, on 04 February 2016 - 11:05 PM, said:

this only works if its an LAM. there are only so many times you can use the "forgiveness for anything" card

You'd be surprised how effective this was in the past. There were countless times in this games development history where there were glaring issues with the current patch and then... Blamo SALE on colours/mechs/mechbays/Event/Event/Event/FreeMC... The end result was : "wait what problem did we have with the game? Oooo shiny."

[rolly]

Lykaon, on 05 February 2016 - 03:40 AM, said:

Early printings of Technical Readout 3025 I would guess.

The first published LAMs were the Stinger,Wasp and Phoenix Hawk.

But I think what they meant was a LAM would be super NEW! and a big shiny to divert attention away from some other issue.

That would be entirely amusing considering the Dasher/Fire moth can't be implemented since its MASC would top 200 kmph. I'd like to see how a LAM would break the game.

[thehiddenedge]

Lykaon, on 05 February 2016 - 03:40 AM, said:

Early printings of Technical Readout 3025 I would guess.

The first published LAMs were the Stinger,Wasp and Phoenix Hawk.

But I think what they meant was a LAM would be super NEW! and a big shiny to divert attention away from some other issue.

Yes, there were LAMS named Stinger, Wasp, and Phoenix Hawk, but they were based off of and made to look like the original battlemechs which shared the name. So two different things.

If I remember correctly, there was a quad LAM too, but can't remember the name.