Scoops Kerensky, on 25 March 2016 - 02:27 AM, said:
Most of us have known each other for years outside of mwo - leadership and rank systems don't really work for us because while the game is a fun thing for us to all play, it isn't the glue that binds us together. We'll find a new game one day if we're banned en masse. As it is, I'm hopeful the facts speak loudest in this case. We win matches, they don't, and we have several firsthand accounts of their leaders treating its membership like chattel.
A unit should be more than a tag - it should be friends that have your back and want to get better at the game you're playing with you and have fun. Appealing to authority outside of the game is just the latest escalation of either someone or a small group using people for a power trip and getting frustrated that reality isn't lining up with the fantasy in their heads.
Except winning or not winning matches is entirely apart from trolling people in and out of game. Hence the appeal to PGI. Nobody is objecting to NKVA winning matches - MS wins more matches on any given night just based on numbers. Dropped with KCom tonight. They win matches. SJR? They do alright too so I understand. There's a lot of teams that win matches.
Nobody is objecting in any way to getting their a$$ handed to them by NKVA. No more so than usual.
However you guys like to troll and you sometimes, well actually often, take it too far. Always have. I talk a lot of ****. On the forums and in game. However I'm not even close to the degree of trolling you guys do. Doesn't bother me, I'll trade trashtalk with anyone. I find you guys generally very funny on the forums. Different people have different tolerances though and NKVA has put a lot of work into finding those tolerances and pushing them off ledges.
A unit is what the people in it make it. 22AL is nothing like HHoD, which is nothing like MS, which is nothing like KCom. Which is sort of the point - people are in different groups for a reason. Different interests, tolerances, etc. It's good you guys have something that works for you. Personally I wouldn't try to drag my friends into MW:O to help carry me - I like them too much
Admittedly this is PGIs house - they make the rules. They get to decide what behavior they like and don't like and they get to always pick the winning side in any dispute here. Cuz it's their house.
Not that I agree with the way some things have been handled recently, to circumspectly dance around speaking about moderation. I don't. I worked hard to get a bunch of people unbanned a year + ago under circumstances that I didn't think were fair. However you guys need to take a serious look at yourselves if you think this is all happening because 'you win and they don't'. Do you really think you're the only team that has beaten Davion units and players before? Really?
NKVA is in the position its in about getting put on blast on Twitter and report-bombed and everything else because as a given rule you guys act like a-holes 10x more than anyone else in game and that's saying something. I'm a pretty vociferous a-hole. That's it. That's the beginning, middle and end of it. HHoD has taken it on the chin from you guys day in and out for like a year now, little over, and you've managed to successfully run them out of ***** to give. Your opinion of the rumors and second-hand opinions people have given you about how they work as a unit is irrelevant to that. There's no bars on the windows. Aylward doesn't keep the keys to anyones mechs. There's more than 1 unit in Davion, they're just the biggest. Just a group of players like any other and they play together for their own reasons.
Don't try to make or find excuses for why NKVA got reported. There's only 1 reason - you troll the holy living **** out of people in game and on the forums. Some of us find it funny, some ignore it, some tolerate it, some flip the **** out and take screenshots to e-mail in before locking themselves in their hugbox and sobbing for a few hours, then uninstalling MW:O for a month. Hence why The Faction Which Can Not Be Named has periodic population dips.
You're big kids, you make your decisions and I'll always yell and shake fists when I see what looks like unfair moderation. I play here, I'm invested in the fairness of the systems and authority here. You guys are also most of the entertainment in MW:O. Forum Warfare is a better product than CW at the moment and the NKVA Forum Warfare drop deck is formidable and fun to play against. Don't try to get all 'you hate me cuz you ain't me' though. You guys catch fire because you act like a-holes. This shouldn't be a surprise to you.
Edited by MischiefSC, 25 March 2016 - 03:02 AM.