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#1 Gryphorim

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Posted 15 April 2016 - 05:29 PM

Just bebuilt my PC with I7 6700 CPU and gtx 970 videocard, 16gb ddr4 RAM.
MWO runs like crap, tanking as low as 2FPS even in testing grounds, but averaging 15FPS overall. I get no performance increase changing all settings to low. Also, oddly GeForce Experience cannot detect MWO settings. I feel like the PC i have should run MWO better, and that I may have a bottleneck somewhere.
Can anyone help me with this?

#2 bigbangattack

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Posted 15 April 2016 - 05:47 PM

have you install the vga driver?
i running at amd phenom II x4 945, ram 8gb dd3, vga amd r7 370 256 bit ddr 5, run at high with 30-40fps.
surely your rig is much better

#3 Gryphorim

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Posted 15 April 2016 - 07:22 PM

Running latest graphics card drivers

#4 Golrar

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Posted 15 April 2016 - 07:33 PM

Did you make sure you plugged the monitor into the GTX970 and not the onboard port? Even with all stock settings it sounds like you are using the built in Intel GPU and not your 970.

Edit: Geforce Experience has never auto detected my MWO settings.

Edited by Golrar, 15 April 2016 - 07:35 PM.


#5 Tarl Cabot

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Posted 15 April 2016 - 07:37 PM

Is the monitor hooked up with the Nvidia GPU or the motherboard connection. Is it actually running off the Nvidia or the Intel GPU?

Power Options - High Performance
Nvidia Control Panel, 3D, Power Mgt Mode, change from adaptive to Max Performance.

There is a tray icon you can enable in the Nvidia Control Panel that shows when a application is using your discrete GPU. In the Nvidia CP, goto Desktop -> Display GPU Activity Icon in Notification Area.

Edited by Tarl Cabot, 15 April 2016 - 07:38 PM.


#6 Goose

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Posted 15 April 2016 - 08:07 PM

Rebuilt?

Did you install the chipset drivers for the mobo?

Did you wipe the shader cache?

Did you set teh RAM to XMP?

Can you get reasonable numbers out'a Furmark/ Kombuster? How about UserBenchmark?

Is the card really in a PCI-E x16 patch? Does it have all it's power feds loaded?

Is the CPU cooler fan plugged in?

You did grease the heat sink, right?

#7 Elrik Stormbringer

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Posted 15 April 2016 - 08:51 PM

I agree that it sounds like you are hooked up to onboard graphics, but if not here are some other things to look at. Is the game running in dx9 or dx11? Seem to be lots of slow down issues with 11. You also mentioned updated nvidia drivers. A number of people complained of poor performance with latest drivers and went back two releases.



#8 Gryphorim

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Posted 16 April 2016 - 01:05 AM

View PostGoose, on 15 April 2016 - 08:07 PM, said:

Rebuilt?

New Mobo, new GPU, new CPU, new RAM

View PostGoose, on 15 April 2016 - 08:07 PM, said:

Did you install the chipset drivers for the mobo?

Yep

View PostGoose, on 15 April 2016 - 08:07 PM, said:

Did you wipe the shader cache?

no, how?

View PostGoose, on 15 April 2016 - 08:07 PM, said:

Did you set teh RAM to XMP?

no, how, why and what is?

View PostGoose, on 15 April 2016 - 08:07 PM, said:

Can you get reasonable numbers out'a Furmark/ Kombuster? How about UserBenchmark?

7000ish out of 3dmark's firestrike

View PostGoose, on 15 April 2016 - 08:07 PM, said:

Is the card really in a PCI-E x16 patch? Does it have all it's power feds loaded?

yes and yes

View PostGoose, on 15 April 2016 - 08:07 PM, said:

Is the CPU cooler fan plugged in?

liquid cooler, and yes, pump and fans.

View PostGoose, on 15 April 2016 - 08:07 PM, said:

You did grease the heat sink, right?

haha, yes.

View PostElrik Stormbringer, on 15 April 2016 - 08:51 PM, said:

I agree that it sounds like you are hooked up to onboard graphics, but if not here are some other things to look at. Is the game running in dx9 or dx11? Seem to be lots of slow down issues with 11. You also mentioned updated nvidia drivers. A number of people complained of poor performance with latest drivers and went back two releases.

running 11, also, how do I get older drivers, mine are set to auto update.

Edited by Gryphorim, 16 April 2016 - 01:06 AM.


#9 Gryphorim

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Posted 16 April 2016 - 01:17 AM

I've also tried both dx modes, no discernible difference in performance. I've optimised GPU in Nvidia CP.
MWO is definately running on GPU as well, as shown on GPU monitor.

Edited by Gryphorim, 16 April 2016 - 01:18 AM.


#10 Goose

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Posted 16 April 2016 - 09:41 AM

View PostGryphorim, on 16 April 2016 - 01:05 AM, said:

no, how?

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View PostGryphorim, on 16 April 2016 - 01:05 AM, said:

no, how, why and what is?

http://www.anandtech...ng-on-haswell/2

#11 SCHLIMMER BESTIMMER XXX

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Posted 16 April 2016 - 10:24 AM

View PostGryphorim, on 15 April 2016 - 05:29 PM, said:

Just bebuilt my PC with I7 6700 CPU and gtx 970 videocard, 16gb ddr4 RAM.
MWO runs like crap, tanking as low as 2FPS even in testing grounds, but averaging 15FPS overall. I get no performance increase changing all settings to low. Also, oddly GeForce Experience cannot detect MWO settings. I feel like the PC i have should run MWO better, and that I may have a bottleneck somewhere.
Can anyone help me with this?

dude its absolutely impossible that the game runs such crapish on your pc.I dont know, but even with my old pc (amd tripple core 2,6ghz, 1gb amd 6570hd, 4gb ram !DDR2!) i had 20-30 fps average on mostly high settings.So something is really wrong with your pc, i think it is something with essential software that windows needs to run properly (completely updated windows, directX 9.0c driver, all redistributables x64 and x86 ones (2007-2013 versions).Something like that i guess....

Edit:Oh! and download VCredist and directX drivers only from microsoft site! just in case you end up on softonic site or such crap.software from these sites are maleware greeting programs!

Edited by shr84, 16 April 2016 - 10:34 AM.


#12 SCHLIMMER BESTIMMER XXX

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Posted 16 April 2016 - 10:39 AM

do other games also run this bad on your rig?

#13 sspfunk

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Posted 16 April 2016 - 11:35 AM

Have you tried disabling Virtual Memory?
Also, what version of Windows are you running?
For Windows 7:
Right click My Computer - click Properties
Click Advanced system settings
Click Advanced tab
in Performance section click Settings button
Click Advanced tab
In the Virtual memory section click Change button
click No paging file radio button - click Set
Click ok on all of the windows.

with that much RAM, you definitley do not need virtual memory.

hope this helps

#14 LT. HARDCASE

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Posted 16 April 2016 - 12:47 PM

Is this issue exclusive to MWO? That's a big piece of information.

#15 Kurni

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Posted 16 April 2016 - 02:56 PM

Disable effects/enh. in your sound card/device, decrease the quality to a more bearable (16b 48k hz) and if this fix your performance, then start increasing slowly.

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Posted 16 April 2016 - 05:16 PM

Do not ask me how I know this:

If you visit certain sites they install stuff on your machine that slows it down.

Are you surfing safely?

Do you practice clean computing?

Re-install the works from clean read only media.

Mkay?

#17 Gryphorim

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Posted 16 April 2016 - 05:41 PM

I only install .dlls and other essential software from the original developer.
I also forked out for Trend Micro Maximum antivirus. I'm pretty sure my PC is clean.
Also, other games run very smoothly. Case-in-point I ran Fallout4 and fps never dropped below 60 and that was while MWO was running in the background.

#18 Tarl Cabot

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Posted 16 April 2016 - 08:54 PM

Hmm, did you do a clean OS install and what OS? Is MWO a fresh install? Disable Geforce Experience. Are you using any overlays such as with TS?

#19 Oderint dum Metuant

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Posted 18 April 2016 - 12:35 AM

View PostGryphorim, on 16 April 2016 - 05:41 PM, said:

I only install .dlls and other essential software from the original developer.
I also forked out for Trend Micro Maximum antivirus. I'm pretty sure my PC is clean.
Also, other games run very smoothly. Case-in-point I ran Fallout4 and fps never dropped below 60 and that was while MWO was running in the background.


If MWO is the only game with trouble, and clearing the shader cache doesn't fix it.
Are you steam or original client?
If Steam validate files
If original client, run repair tool

If that fails

Flat out reinstall MWO.

Edited by Oderint dum Metuant, 18 April 2016 - 12:36 AM.


#20 Gryphorim

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Posted 18 April 2016 - 02:34 AM

This thread in summary:

View PostOderint dum Metuant, on 18 April 2016 - 12:35 AM, said:

Flat out reinstall MWO.


Hopefully this fixes it.





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