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#1 Kaelym

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Posted 27 April 2016 - 12:57 PM

Whats going on with the scouting? Map after map we're facing Long Tom, with no one scouting.

It's not that we're losing the scouting, we're just NOT scouting consistently.

Why is this?

#2 TheLuc

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Posted 27 April 2016 - 01:01 PM

Sorry to tell you but the FP mode population is very low, even for scouting.

#3 Davegt27

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Posted 27 April 2016 - 01:12 PM


Also you have to like getting blasted to never never land by 4 Storm crows

I don’t care what Mech you have

It’s a good thing I don’t have more lights and mediums because I would still be trying
Different builds

I keep adding and taking off $$ Ferro with the hopes of finding some magic combination

Don’t get me wrong I am not trying to dominate or anything like that I just would like to pull
The trigger on my weapons more than 4 times





#4 Kaelym

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Posted 27 April 2016 - 01:55 PM

I agree the population does seem low in FP. As for the stormcrows, I don't find them a problem. Defeated them twice in a row just now. Both times was with a lance of mediums.

I would like to see FP gain more folks. Is MWO not doing well?

Thanks for the replies to the thread!

#5 MovinTarget

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Posted 27 April 2016 - 02:46 PM

Steiner has it hard when it comes to scouting...









How are they going to drop w/ Atlai when the tonnage is 55 max???

In all seriousness, i get more worried about ach and jenner IIc drops than 4 stormcrows...

Them crow legs are tasty...

#6 Appogee

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Posted 27 April 2016 - 02:54 PM

Win Scouting Missions and defeat Storm Crows with splat-Griffins and high-DPS Centurions.

(Don't bother trying to collect many intel points until PGI come to their senses and reduce the tonnage to something more like Scout Mech tonnage, say 40t.)

Edited by Appogee, 27 April 2016 - 02:55 PM.


#7 Void Angel

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Posted 27 April 2016 - 03:00 PM

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Some options in the tonnage range are far superior to others, and that does make things annoying - but I'm pretty confident it's just a population issue.

#8 C E Dwyer

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Posted 27 April 2016 - 03:32 PM

People keep voting Marik. People in the unit I'm in are told to only engage the budgies, don't know why people are so scared of streak crows.

Though not much point in using lights in scouting mode, much better off using mediums

View PostAppogee, on 27 April 2016 - 02:54 PM, said:

Win Scouting Missions and defeat Storm Crows with splat-Griffins and high-DPS Centurions.

(Don't bother trying to collect many intel points until PGI come to their senses and reduce the tonnage to something more like Scout Mech tonnage, say 40t.)

You forgot Hunchbacks ;)

#9 Kaelym

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Posted 27 April 2016 - 03:55 PM

I currently use an AC20 Hunch and SRM6 one.

#10 MovinTarget

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Posted 27 April 2016 - 03:57 PM

Agree with Cathy on a lot of points, we usually ran 3 griffin 2n w/ srms and an oxide as a scout/interceptor and had at least a 75% w/l ratio versus clan...

Haven't scouted since our new contract so i can't comment the other way...

#11 1453 R

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Posted 27 April 2016 - 03:59 PM

View PostKaelym, on 27 April 2016 - 12:57 PM, said:

Why is this?


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There's your answer, man.

#12 MovinTarget

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Posted 27 April 2016 - 04:10 PM

View Post1453 R, on 27 April 2016 - 03:59 PM, said:


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There's your answer, man.



Wow such an eloquent, well thought out post...

Look I made a crack about a "Steiner scout lance" but at least i tried to offer something constructive as well.

If you are going to take a swipe at a faction, you could at least make it entertaining...



Edited by MovinTarget, 27 April 2016 - 04:12 PM.


#13 1453 R

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Posted 27 April 2016 - 04:11 PM

Hey. if the big blue metal glove fits...

#14 Kaelym

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Posted 27 April 2016 - 04:12 PM

lol...I understand the Steiner thought of no lights.. :) But we do have the wolfhound? :)

#15 L1f3H4ck

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 08:17 AM

I recently got promoted to sergeant doing scout missions in the solo queue. Stormcrows? Just take their legs off. I'm running an Oxide, so let me tell you: Be super-wary of Clan Jenners. They pack nearly the same punch as that Stormcrow, but they're a good deal faster and smaller.

#16 Araevin Teshurr

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Posted 29 April 2016 - 07:12 AM

View PostAppogee, on 27 April 2016 - 02:54 PM, said:

Win Scouting Missions and defeat Storm Crows with splat-Griffins and high-DPS Centurions.

(Don't bother trying to collect many intel points until PGI come to their senses and reduce the tonnage to something more like Scout Mech tonnage, say 40t.)


High DPS Hunchbacks 4SP or 4P, storm crow legs are weak, don't shoot for the torso. I have seen lots of Griffins also, I just don't have Griffs or Centurions, so I can't speak to them.

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Posted 29 April 2016 - 09:40 AM

I play scouting with my BJ-1X and it performs very well.

Its easy to win with a Team mixed of Blackjacks, Hunchbacks, Griffins or Centurions

But i see very often Trial Mechs in our Teams and other Mechs that doesent perform well like
the commandos.

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Posted 02 May 2016 - 12:38 PM

the enforcer 4p works beautifully aswell lb10, 4 small pulse and an xl325 beats crows and lights alike, it is even surprisingly tanky

#19 Kara Ben Nemsi

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Posted 15 May 2016 - 05:54 AM

View PostKaelym, on 27 April 2016 - 12:57 PM, said:

It's not that we're losing the scouting, we're just NOT scouting consistently.

Why is this?


We're Steiner. As soon as we can bring Assault Mechs to Scouting Mode, we'll scout.

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Posted 20 May 2016 - 01:31 PM

View PostKaelym, on 27 April 2016 - 12:57 PM, said:

Whats going on with the scouting? Map after map we're facing Long Tom, with no one scouting.

It's not that we're losing the scouting, we're just NOT scouting consistently.

Why is this?


The people who are doing your scouting playing stupidly! Trying to brawl with crows in NON-meta IS mechs is as stupid as stupid can get. Trying to fight the enemy on gather missions first, then gather second is just dumb. Maybe you should tell your players to GATHER on Gather Intel missions and use appropriate mechs and when you are on protect to get some decent mechs with flamers and Point-Damage weapons.

Seriously, I was in a protect with 3 Steiners, one brought a locust 1-v, one brought a Cicada 3c and the other brought a LRM Treb 7M. How in the heck are you supposed to protect intel with those three mechs? All of these fellows belonged to units and one of them had a founder's tag!

Edited by nehebkau, 20 May 2016 - 01:33 PM.






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