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[Avimimus]

What mech most violates the current meta?
I'd assume a mixture of flamers and LRMs would be promising.
Or maybe just running a stock mech? Or an Inner Sphere light?
Or a scout mech (Active probe, TAG, NARC)? Any other ideas?

Note - The builds should still be efficient (i.e. not a troll build)!

We should only be discussing legitimate builds that are mistreated by the current meta.

[Requiemking]

PXH-1K, six flamers and two MPL.

[Mazzyplz]

six flamers? isn't that de facto trolling?

i don't get what the OP means though. if the build is good then it's good, meta or not. and if it's bad then it's bad.

by anti meta i guess you mean the least suspected mechs of being good?



my pick is awesome 9m right now.

with 2er ppc and 1 ppc, and medpulses

however it doesn't "suffer from current meta"
it's just not very popular.

[Avimimus]

Ah, I guess the original post is getting at:

If all weapons were as effective as they are in the boardgame... what mech configuration suffers the most for it being MWO?

[Requiemking]

Flamers on a Phoenix hawk actually isn't as trolly as you might imagine. My Firebird runs four plus two MPL and it is hilarious when you can shut down a Summoner from close quarters. And the cooling efficiency is wondrous. Also, Lights avoid you like the plague.

Edited by Requiemking, 26 June 2016 - 10:12 PM.

[Aleksandr Sergeyevich Kerensky]

Maybe a IIC mech with a std engine, no endo steel, not ferro, and 1x flamer as its only weapon, max armor set to rear... Maybe a jenner IIC? And zero heatsinks because... Heatsinks are so meta... Most mechs i see on metamechs.com have at least one heatsink somewhere on the mech...

Edit: behold! The anti-meta jenner IIC in all its glory!
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...28efd5f020901fb

Edited by Aleksandr Sergeyevich Kerensky, 26 June 2016 - 11:10 PM.

[Niyata Raastad]

Just need to inexplicably load it with machine gun ammo and you're good to go!

[B L O O D W I T C H]

captain assist, to the rescure!!

[stealthraccoon]

[smurfy]http://mwo.smurfy-ne...db485e04c1528ff[/smurfy] - Tough little build, but still not quite enough to be relevant.

This one is a favorite go-to: [smurfy]http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a3d76604fd967f7[/smurfy]

Edited by stealthraccoon, 27 June 2016 - 12:47 PM.

[oldradagast]

Run an Awesome with PPC quirks with PPC's.

It actually works decently, but it is "anti-meta" for several reasons:
- Awesomes are not meta. They are better post rescale, but they still aren't super tough or equipped with lots of high-mounted energy hardpoints
- PPC's are not meta. Laser vomit still generally beats out PPC's for large energy weapons.

[Bud Crue]

Victor. Any build.

[Aleksandr Sergeyevich Kerensky]

oldradagast, on 28 June 2016 - 04:11 AM, said:

Run an Awesome with PPC quirks with PPC's.

It actually works decently, but it is "anti-meta" for several reasons:
- Awesomes are not meta. They are better post rescale, but they still aren't super tough or equipped with lots of high-mounted energy hardpoints
- PPC's are not meta. Laser vomit still generally beats out PPC's for large energy weapons.

Im not sure why you say PPCs are not meta? According to the tourney vids I see from anyone relevant, kdk-3s are running dual guass and dual ppc...

So if you are running multiple PPCs, then you are definatelly running meta.

(While PPCs might not be popular across all weight classes; that doesnt mean its not meta, especially in the assault class). There are 3 weapon systems i see quite often in the assault class. LPL, guass and ppc.

[B L O O D W I T C H]

Bud Crue, on 28 June 2016 - 04:18 AM, said:

Victor. Any build.

AC20 + 2 LPL
Gauss + 2 (Er) PPC

pretty meta

Edited by Toha Heavy Industries, 28 June 2016 - 09:44 AM.

[Alienized]

Toha Heavy Industries, on 28 June 2016 - 09:44 AM, said:

AC20 + 2 LPL
Gauss + 2 (Er) PPC

pretty meta

thats just a meta loadout on a bad mech. doesnt make it a meta mech.

[B L O O D W I T C H]

Alienized, on 28 June 2016 - 09:53 AM, said:

thats just a meta loadout on a bad mech. doesnt make it a meta mech.

Nobody said that. Read the thread titel and the opening post, that why i felt the need to point out the two most common builds (which happen to be the current meta for most mechs).

Victor doesn't work as a "non-meta" mech. Hench, "victor, any built" isn't fitting if you keep the "Note - The builds should still be efficient (i.e. not a troll build)! " in mind.

[VonBruinwald]

Urbie with a Std60.

[Alienized]

Toha Heavy Industries, on 28 June 2016 - 11:29 AM, said:

Nobody said that. Read the thread titel and the opening post, that why i felt the need to point out the two most common builds (which happen to be the current meta for most mechs).

Victor doesn't work as a "non-meta" mech. Hench, "victor, any built" isn't fitting if you keep the "Note - The builds should still be efficient (i.e. not a troll build)! " in mind.

if you want to put something proper into a victor. than at least something non-meta as it is meant to be. not *fit meta into non-meta!*

put ac20, 2 mlas, 2 srm6 + artemis into it. a classical brawler.
XL350. 4 JJ's.

there you got a proper meta-stomper that is purely non meta.

[B L O O D W I T C H]

Alienized, on 28 June 2016 - 11:39 AM, said:

if you want to put something proper into a victor. than at least something non-meta as it is meant to be. not *fit meta into non-meta!*

put ac20, 2 mlas, 2 srm6 + artemis into it. a classical brawler.
XL350. 4 JJ's.

there you got a proper meta-stomper that is purely non meta.

AC20 + SRM is soooo not meta for brawler?

[Bud Crue]

Toha Heavy Industries, on 28 June 2016 - 11:29 AM, said:

Victor doesn't work as a "non-meta" mech.

What? By putting what you calll "a meta load out" on a Victor renders it a "meta" mech in your view? I don't think so. There is NOTHING meta about a Victor as it currently exists in this game, regardless of its build Making something as efficient as possible despite its limitations does not make it meta.

[ExoForce]

12 TAG chain-fired Nova can bring 100.000 Cr on a good match.
(No trolling, they do not stack etc...)