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[Migrayne]

I have never played the TT game so I don't know all the specs and options on them. Could someone shoot out some ideas on a good s out hunter/killer and a build.

I picked a Jenner as my founder mech. Hoping it can fill that role.

[Aeryk Corsaer]

Jenner is not ideal but could fulfill a hunter role, not the best killer. Has speed to do the hunting but needs more "punch" to kill. Modification to add a large laser or PPC would assist in that goal.

[Butane9000]

Cicada. It's a medium mech that has similar speed to a light mech. It's armament is light as well which leads me to believe it has 2 roles.

1. Scout hunting

2. Scouting (just using a medium chassis)

[Chillybill]

The Jenner is a 35 ton light mech, although it is on the heaver side of the light class, it has great speed, carries SRM-6 missles and 4 medium lazers it is most suited in the scouting role but it does pack a little punch but cannot stand toe to toe with the mediums and heavies.
It could be called a hunter if you like to locate and mark larger targets for destruction by you lance mates in the mediums and heavies

[Damiv]

I agree with the Cicada. Faster than the Jenner, but with a little bit of moding can fit 7 medium lasers, with a BAP and C3 slave. Counter scout and hunt at the same time! And that's with the max of 9 tons of armor. Whether or not we can do that with the ingame mechlab remains to be seen, will depend on the hardpoint layout they give it as everything else should work fine.

Edit: Oh yes, this is a heat stable build as well. What a nice little chassis!

Edited by Damiv, 19 July 2012 - 06:23 PM.

[Major Tom]

I think the Jenner is the best choice we have for a scout hunter. It is fast enough to intercept any mech, has jump jets, as well as good weapon hardponts, and most import, jump jets. Combine that with with a decent weapon payload and you have a clear winner.

However, the real sweetspot for scout hunter is in the 40-45 ton range at 97kph (and jump), think Pheonix Hawk or Clint. These mechs are fast enough to chase away pesky scouts, but well armored and armed enough to mix it up on the battlefield. Unfortunately we have not seen any yet.

[Akaryu]

either cicada or spider cicada because its a medium mech so with enough work in the mech lab it can still have hard to match mobility and a nasty payload maybe even ppcs. and the spider because not only is it just as fast as the cicada but it also has jump jets so basically the only way an enemy scout can elude you is to destroy you which is easier said then done. but if you have a fellow spider by your side for the hunt odds are that enemy scout doesn't stand a snowballs chance in hell of completing its mission.

[Brenden]

Chillybill, on 19 July 2012 - 06:16 PM, said:

The Jenner is a 35 ton light mech, although it is on the heaver side of the light class, it has great speed, carries SRM-6 missles and 4 medium lazers it is most suited in the scouting role but it does pack a little punch but cannot stand toe to toe with the mediums and heavies.
It could be called a hunter if you like to locate and mark larger targets for destruction by you lance mates in the mediums and heavies

SRM-4

[Chillybill]

Brenden, on 19 July 2012 - 06:59 PM, said:

SRM-4

SRM-6 according to http://mwowiki.org/i...hp?title=Jenner

[Kaanon]

The Jenner has a tremendoues amount of fire power for the weight and speed of the mech but the Cicada can probably be fitted with the armor to make it able to survive defeating multiple enemy light mechs. It may not be able to combat the Spider's raw speed and leaping ability but Raven's, Commandos, and even Jenners best be on guard... As a future Raven pilot, I feel the Cicada will be be nearly as ominous as an Atlas...

[Fusea]

Major Tom, on 19 July 2012 - 06:53 PM, said:

I think the Jenner is the best choice we have for a scout hunter. It is fast enough to intercept any mech, has jump jets, as well as good weapon hardponts, and most import, jump jets. Combine that with with a decent weapon payload and you have a clear winner.

However, the real sweetspot for scout hunter is in the 40-45 ton range at 97kph (and jump), think Pheonix Hawk or Clint. These mechs are fast enough to chase away pesky scouts, but well armored and armed enough to mix it up on the battlefield. Unfortunately we have not seen any yet.

Or the CN9-D. 50 tons, 97kph, long range weapons, and an ac10 for big punch. It can run after half the mechs in the light class (Commando and Raven), and the other half it can chase off with long range weapons.

[Brenden]

Chillybill, on 19 July 2012 - 07:02 PM, said:

SRM-6 according to http://mwowiki.org/i...hp?title=Jenner

SRM-4 according to the http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Jenner

[Major Tom]

I have seen a number of people suggesting Cicada or Spider, these seem like terrible scout hunters to me.
Granted you can reclaim some of that engine tonnage with XL engines, but still the mechs lack any arm mounted weapons making it more difficult to track fast mechs. And if either of those mechs run into a Jenner they are going to get shredded. The idea of a scout hunter is not to out run the scout, it is to outgun the scout, you only need enough speed to intercept with your superior firepower (and how do you get superior firepower? you sacrifice speed, not armor, speed).

[Brenden]

Kaanon, on 19 July 2012 - 07:04 PM, said:

The Jenner has a tremendoues amount of fire power for the weight and speed of the mech but the Cicada can probably be fitted with the armor to make it able to survive defeating multiple enemy light mechs. It may not be able to combat the Spider's raw speed and leaping ability but Raven's, Commandos, and even Jenners best be on guard... As a future Raven pilot, I feel the Cicada will be be nearly as ominous as an Atlas...

I agree with you there, the Jenner has more firepower then given on any Ligh Mech at the moment, the Cicada... Eh, I'm not sure what Variant it is, though I would like it if they put the small laser in the rear. Also, why not add flammers to your Raven? A rumor I heard is that they do not generate alot of heat to the person that uses them, but alot to the person on whom the user is using it on. So if that is the case, why not add a flamer or two to over-heat the scout 'mech so that it is forced to Shut down, and then you are free to damage it's legs so that it can't escape, thus enabling you to deliver the killing blow.

[Eyllena]

Chillybill, on 19 July 2012 - 07:02 PM, said:

SRM-6 according to http://mwowiki.org/i...hp?title=Jenner

Um, those say the -D and -K mount SRM-4s.

[Brenden]

If I had to choose, I'd go with a Spider-5D, which drops one medium laser in favor of a Flamer. If I can stay behind them long enough to burn them with my flamer, they might overheat which might cause them to shut down. Plus it would soften up the armor so that I could attack with my Medium laser.

[Willpower]

Definitely the Spider.

Way faster, you can run down a Jenner no trouble, then jump on it from a quarter kilometer away for your DFA attack.

sry.

I'm so going to buy me one of those though.

[DEHK]

I would agree that hunter-killer role on a Jenner would be best with SRM's and as many small lasers as you could fit(maybe mediums): damn the heat sinks. You should be able to get out of immediate danger while you cool off.

Preferably I'd take a medium, as above the Cicada is ideal given released mechs.

[Jaime Wolfe]

Of the mechs announced so far, I would say the Dragon would be best for a scout hunter. Though not quite as fast as the lights, the arm mounted AC/ppc/Gauss (depending on the variant) allows it to take the light mechs down quickly. If a Phoenix Hawk or Wolfhound appears here, then they would be better.

[Brenden]

Jaime Wolfe, on 19 July 2012 - 07:14 PM, said:

Of the mechs announced so far, I would say the Dragon would be best for a scout hunter. Though not quite as fast as the lights, the arm mounted AC/ppc/Gauss (depending on the variant) allows it to take the light mechs down quickly. If a Phoenix Hawk or Wolfhound appears here, then they would be better.

I would love it if the Phoenix Hawk could appear, but alas it is Unseen and they are not allowed. Only those from Crusher Joe and Dougram are, but things like the Warhammer and Archer? Nope. So there maybe a slim chance we might be able to see the following:
Shadow Hawk
Thunderbolt
Locust (dear god I hope so)
Wolverine.
Maybe.