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[Chillybill]

Eyllena, on 19 July 2012 - 07:13 PM, said:

Um, those say the -D and -K mount SRM-4s.

hahaha I swear, I double checked myself before I posted because I thought I could have it wrong, looks like they pulled a fast one

[Shadowscythe]

if you are going for High speed scout hunter (to hunt scouts). stick with the jenner for the jump jets..

You can change the speed of the jenner UP to the speed of the Cicada and have more tonnage left over LOL 3 tons difference (before XL engine/endo)..After XL/endo the cicada has .5 tons more ....these numbers are only engine and internals

If the mech is slower than the scout. I wouldn't really count it as a hunter
More like a Sit and waiter...Are you just going to putt putt putt behind the scout and hope he runs into range?

Edited by Shadowscythe, 19 July 2012 - 07:22 PM.

[Brenden]

Chillybill, on 19 July 2012 - 07:18 PM, said:

hahaha I swear, I double checked myself before I posted because I thought I could have it wrong, looks like they pulled a fast one

It's okay, it's all in good faith. I think you could cram an SRM-6 on that if you took out two of the Medium lasers me thinks.
But in all seriousness, the Jenner is nothing to be taken lightly, Light mechs and even some Medium mechs on the lighter end of the spectrum would have something to fear from it. Although, I would like a Panthar. It could take a position on a hill with it's jump Jets and when a scout is running, it could just lead the target and BAM. PPC to the face. Or knee.

[Kaanon]

Brenden, on 19 July 2012 - 07:09 PM, said:

why not add flammers to your Raven? A rumor I heard is that they do not generate alot of heat to the person that uses them, but alot to the person on whom the user is using it on. So if that is the case, why not add a flamer or two to over-heat the scout 'mech so that it is forced to Shut down, and then you are free to damage it's legs so that it can't escape, thus enabling you to deliver the killing blow.

Devilish. I feel like I've done something like that in the original Mechcommander to salvage an otherwise hard to come by chasis. I could certainly see that working on the primary Jenner, especially after an alpha strike.

[Brenden]

Shadowscythe, on 19 July 2012 - 07:20 PM, said:

if you are going for High speed scout hunter (to hunt scouts). stick with the jenner for the jump jets..

You can change the speed of the jenner UP to the speed of the Cicada and have more tonnage left over LOL 3 tons difference (before XL engine/endo)..After XL/endo the cicada has .5 tons more ....these numbers are only engine and internals

If the mech is slower than the scout. I wouldn't really count it as a hunter
More like a Sit and waiter

How do you know this? I've never played the Table Top, so if you're getting your information from there then I applaud you sir.

[Bodha]

Any mech from the 35-55 ton range with 90+ kph should do the job.

My ideal is Centurion with a 90+ kph speed, lbx ac/10 and an lrm-10. If you got a scout to chase off use the lbx, otherwise just support the main line with that lrm. Bring a good bit of ammo and remember you dont have to kill the scout, just keep him off the heavies and assaults. Chase him any time he gets too close, and otherwise just play support mech. If you keep your speed down initially that scout may not realize you are a real threat until he over commits.

Edited by Bodha, 19 July 2012 - 07:23 PM.

[Shadowscythe]

actually it is BT TT mostly.....also this nice program called The Drawing Board.
VERY easy to use because you can set up a mech and just scroll through the weight tons and it will automatically change stuff like gyro weight and engine weight for the speed you have selected.

And at the bottom of the screen it gives tonnage availble, crits available, heat generation, heat dissipation

There are quite a few programs out there. Sarna has a few of them...
http://www.sarna.net...s/mech/windows/

They also have lots of Stock mechs that are already made and ready to load..(after the unzip of course)
http://www.sarna.net...ing_board/fasa/

Edited by Shadowscythe, 19 July 2012 - 07:32 PM.

[Brenden]

Kaanon, on 19 July 2012 - 07:21 PM, said:

Devilish. I feel like I've done something like that in the original Mechcommander to salvage an otherwise hard to come by chasis. I could certainly see that working on the primary Jenner, especially after an alpha strike.

Perhaps, though my friend will be Running a Commando with Flamers. This idea was her's after all. Overheat the mech till it can't fight anymore and then kill it. My idea is to have two Javelins with ECM sneak up on an Atlas, fire the SRMs into it's back to weaken it and when it turns around to fire on the Javels, a Panther comes in and PPC's it's back.

Shadowscythe, on 19 July 2012 - 07:24 PM, said:

actually it is BT TT mostly.....also this nice program called The Drawing Board.
VERY easy to use because you can set up a mech and just scroll through the weight tons and it will automatically change stuff like gyro weight and engine weight for the speed you have selected.

Can I have the link? Please?

[Streeter]

Brenden, on 19 July 2012 - 07:13 PM, said:

If I had to choose, I'd go with a Spider-5D, which drops one medium laser in favor of a Flamer. If I can stay behind them long enough to burn them with my flamer, they might overheat which might cause them to shut down. Plus it would soften up the armor so that I could attack with my Medium laser.

"hunt" a heavier mech with more armour, and more than double your fire power and nearly the same speed? hate to see the outcome when the jenner turns around to face you (>_<)

[Brenden]

Streeter, on 19 July 2012 - 07:28 PM, said:

"hunt" a heavier mech with more armour, and more than double your fire power and nearly the same speed? hate to see the outcome when the jenner turns around to face you (>_<)

I jump away! Right over the fello', turn arond and continue the harrasment, overheat him until he can't fight without shutting down and then have a Centurion with it's LRMs clean it up for me.

[Brenden]

Shadowscythe, on 19 July 2012 - 07:24 PM, said:

actually it is BT TT mostly.....also this nice program called The Drawing Board.
VERY easy to use because you can set up a mech and just scroll through the weight tons and it will automatically change stuff like gyro weight and engine weight for the speed you have selected.

And at the bottom of the screen it gives tonnage availble, crits available, heat generation, heat dissipation

There are quite a few programs out there. Sarna has a few of them...
http://www.sarna.net...s/mech/windows/

They also have lots of Stock mechs that are already made and ready to load..(after the unzip of course)
http://www.sarna.net...ing_board/fasa/

I don't have Winzip.
D:

[Hax DB Header]

Kaanon, on 19 July 2012 - 07:04 PM, said:

The Jenner has a tremendoues amount of fire power for the weight and speed of the mech but the Cicada can probably be fitted with the armor to make it able to survive defeating multiple enemy light mechs. It may not be able to combat the Spider's raw speed and leaping ability but Raven's, Commandos, and even Jenners best be on guard... As a future Raven pilot, I feel the Cicada will be be nearly as ominous as an Atlas...

Really? As a scout, I find the Cicada more ominous than an Atlas. Cicada or maybe even Hunchback. The Cicada would a good scout hunter/killer. The Hunchback could be good scout protection: not enough speed to hunt them down but enough speed and heavy punch to make the scout worry about the run part of hit & run.

[Major Tom]

Brenden, on 19 July 2012 - 07:31 PM, said:

I jump away! Right over the fello', turn arond...

As the Jenner tracks your pirouette with its 4 arm mounted lasers, literally melting the legs from your spider. You desperately press the jump engines until you slam head first into the hillside and tumble down in a smouldering wreck.

[Brenden]

Hax DB Header, on 19 July 2012 - 07:35 PM, said:

Really? As a scout, I find the Cicada more ominous than an Atlas. Cicada or maybe even Hunchback. The Cicada would a good scout hunter/killer. The Hunchback could be good scout protection: not enough speed to hunt them down but enough speed and heavy punch to make the scout worry about the run part of hit & run.

Yeah when it's running with an AC/5 on your back. I'd downgrade it to a 2 for more ammo.

[Chillybill]

well whatever you hunt, whatever you hunt it with when you find it/catch it, get on it like stink on a skunks butt and stay there stinkin til the job is done

[Brenden]

Major Tom, on 19 July 2012 - 07:36 PM, said:

As the Jenner tracks your pirouette with its 4 arm mounted lasers, literally melting the legs from your spider. You desperately press the jump engines until you slam head first into the hillside and tumble down in a smouldering wreck.

Damn. You got me there...
Well, why not increase the engine size of a Centurion and equipt it with an LB-X AC/10?
Or use a Spector, that thing has Large, Small and Medium lasers that would make it an excellent hunter at all ranged.

[Shadowscythe]

Brenden, on 19 July 2012 - 07:34 PM, said:

I don't have Winzip.
D:

Not even an unzipper with your OS?
hmmm. not sure about that then

Guess ya might have to google it to find a site that doesn't have it zipped


I have like 20 mechs builds of various stages of tech to try out ...But with my luck they changed a couple fractions here and there and the builds won't work lol

Edited by Shadowscythe, 19 July 2012 - 07:44 PM.

[Hax DB Header]

Brenden, on 19 July 2012 - 07:31 PM, said:

I jump away! Right over the fello', turn arond and continue the harrasment, overheat him until he can't fight without shutting down and then have a Centurion with it's LRMs clean it up for me.

Ah, scout vs scout. I'm really looking forward to this...it would be like Yoda vs Yoda, what with all the crazy jumping and manoeuvring.

[Kaanon]

Hax DB Header, on 19 July 2012 - 07:35 PM, said:

Really? As a scout, I find the Cicada more ominous than an Atlas. Cicada or maybe even Hunchback. The Cicada would a good scout hunter/killer. The Hunchback could be good scout protection: not enough speed to hunt them down but enough speed and heavy punch to make the scout worry about the run part of hit & run.

Cicada is indeed -nearly- as ominous as an Atlas. The Cicada deserves great respect from lighter mechs but the alphastrike of an Atlas is insta-death. It has to be feared despite it's drunken tree slug pace. My post was in favor of the Cicada as a scout hunter/killer if you hadn't noticed. However, I think the average lightmech still has a reasonable chance against the Cicada.

Edited by Kaanon, 19 July 2012 - 07:45 PM.

[Brenden]

Hax DB Header, on 19 July 2012 - 07:40 PM, said:

Ah, scout vs scout. I'm really looking forward to this...it would be like Yoda vs Yoda, what with all the crazy jumping and manoeuvring.

Do you know what would be really interesting to see?
Two spiders, both with Medium Pulse Lasers and only those, attacking eachother, attempting to ram, stomp and all other things. I can see it now... The opposing teams stop killing eachother and just stare at the two Spiders. Dancing in the glory that one of them is leaving damaged and the other a smoldering wreck in the water. Look! I jumped right over his head, and he retaliated by ramming him into his back when he landed and they both fall down!