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#1 PaintedWolf

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 12:51 AM

And the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rasalhague_Dominion]/"Raslhague Dominion", are you "Free Births" ready to become second tier?

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The Rasalhague Dominion is a fictional state within the BattleTech universe, largely consisting of former worlds of the Principality of Rasalhague, Free Rasalhague Republic conquered by Clan Ghost Bear.

History

The Dominion largely occupies an area of space formerly known as the Principality of Rasalhague, whose original colonists consisted mostly of people from the Scandinavian region of Earth. The Principality though strong through much willpower fell before the might of the expansionistic Draconis Combine, eventually turning into one of the Combine's Military Districts. As decades passed the people brought much strife to the Draconis Combine and to the leaders of the Rasalhague Military District. With assistance from agents from the Lryan Commenwealth and citizens that remembered their heritage fought against their combined overseers. Soon negotiations between the Lyran Commonweath and the Draconis Combine bear fruit in the creation of the Free Rasalhague Republic.
Following the release of the Republic as a district of the Combine, the Republic fought hard to establish itself as a nation and they were actually succeeding, that is until the start of the Clan invasion.
When the Invasion came, the Republic found itself directly in the path of the Invasion. With nearly all of their planets falling under Clan Wolf or Ghost Bear control, the Republic only survived the onslaught through sheer luck, thanks to Comstar's proxy battle (which Comstar won, buying everyone a 15 year truce) for Terra (the objective of the Clan Invasion) on the planet of Tukayyid.
During the Truce, Clan Ghost Bear moved almost all of their Clan population to their Occupation Zone, which mostly consisted of Republic worlds, and declared the formation of Ghost Bear Dominion as soon as the last allotted transport ship arrived at its destination.
As the years passed, Clan Ghost Bear slowly began to seduce the population of the Free Rasalhague Republic into believing that the best course for freedom and protection lay in joining them. Many native Rasalhagians wholly supported the union of what remained of the Free Rasalhague Republic with the Ghost Bear Dominion, an event which eventually led to the formation of the Rasalhague Dominion as we know it today.
The Dominion

Founded as the Ghost Bear Dominion originally in 3060 later changed to the Rasalhague Dominion with the official union with its "equal but separate" symbiotic/protectorate state, the Free Rasalhague Republic, in the year 3103 The national symbol is a white roaring bear head, set against a dark blue triangle. The government is a Republic, with Clan warrior-caste styling, under the Dominion Council
It is located between the Wolf and Hell's Horses Clan Occupation Zones and the Draconis Combine and comprises 71 inhabited systems and an estimated 280 billion population. The executive capital, home of the Elected Prince, is located at Asgard on the planet of Rasalhague, while the parliamentary capital, home of the Dominion Council, as well as the capital of the Dominion's Clan population, is located in the city of Silverdale on the planet Alshain.
Culture

The official languages in the Rasalhague Dominion is English and Swedish, with Swedenese, Japanese and German influences. The different influential religions are Lutheran Christian, Shinto, Atheism, and Neo-Norse.
Economy

The Dominion currently uses the Bear-krona as its unit of currency (1 Bear-krona is 2.83 [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-bill"]C-bills). Ironically, the Ghost Bears have become a victim of their own success. Having fully brought their entire clan from the Kerensky Cluster and succeeding in integrating their people into the Inner Sphere, the Ghost Bears have become a key economic power within the Inner Sphere.
Unfortunately, this "success" is seen as a failure by the more "traditional" elements within the clans who feel that the Ghost Bears have lost their way...they have not succeeded in retaking Terra, they have not re-established the Star League so they have "failed" in that regard. The Ghost Bears have reached a cross-roads in regards towards their destiny. The Traditionalists want to go back to what they see as the vision set down by Nicholas Kerensky, and yet an equal number of Ghost Bears believe they have achieved Kerensky's dream of returning to the Inner Sphere and do not want to destroy what they have built by returning to "the old ways".
Dominion Council

The Dominion Council is the governing body of the Rasalhague Dominion. By law it is equally divided into three distinct peer groups, each making up exactly 1/3rds of the Dominion Council:
  • "Trueborn" members of the Ghost Bear Warrior Caste.
    • Exclusively made up of warriors that were a product of Clan Ghost Bear's breeding program.
    • Trueborns from other Clans' breeding programs could also conceivably become part of this group if they are adopted into the Ghost Bear Warrior Caste.
  • "Freeborn" members of the Ghost Bear Warrior Caste.
    • Mostly made up of native Rasalhagians adopted into the Ghost Bear Warrior Caste, but can also be made up of ethnic Ghost Bears that were not begotten of the Clan breeding program that defines someone as being "trueborn".
    • Freeborn warriors can sometimes be incorporated into the breeding program if the warrior was truly exceptional enough, meaning that any future descendants of the warrior may be classified as "trueborn" if they came out of the breeding program. Regardless of their ancestry, anyone who comes out of the Ghost Bear breeding program would still be classified as a "Trueborn Warrior of Clan Ghost Bear", even if they were descended from an ethnic Rasalhagian Freeborn who somehow made it into the Ghost Bear breeding program.
  • "Civilian" members that are by definition not of the Warrior Caste.
    • Made up by someone of either ethnic Ghost Bear (freeborn or trueborn, possibly a retired warrior but most likely a respected scientist or merchant from the Ghost Bears' Scientist or Merchant Castes) or of native Rasalhagian descent (most likely leaders of industry, labor unions, businesses, academia and local government).
Have fun in "seperate but equal" and "the breeding program."

Edit: Okay you are not "seperate but equal" according to the Conquering Clan, a State described by the official web page as:

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Government Clan
(Caste-driven, Warrior-dominant hierarchy)
http://bg.battletech.com/?page_id=3182 you are "equal but seperate." HUGE difference.

Edited by PaintedWolf, 25 July 2012 - 12:57 AM.


#2 Stormwolf

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 12:54 AM

The Ghost Bears have always been the guys next door to me ;)

#3 PaintedWolf

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 01:05 AM

View PostStormwolf, on 25 July 2012 - 12:54 AM, said:

The Ghost Bears have always been the guys next door to me ;)


I dunno, for some reason, Caste Driven sounds more insectoid then human. Then again what are the alts? Inbred aristocracies, techno-theocracies and mercs? Not the best of choices- the Republic of Sphere emerges later on, MUCH later on and it doesn't last.

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 01:59 AM

I really don't like the Clans in total.
And I really don't like that whole Dominion Idea that may or may not be pushed on to us. Luckily it is still a good few years away, so who knows if it will ever happen. But if it will happen, I'm not sure I can sill consider myself a Rasalhagian because for me, there is no Rasalhague anymore.
But I'll think about that when the time comes.

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 02:31 AM

As the game starts before the dominion is formed and since i am a swede, Free Rasalhague Republic sounds like a fun start. It is also often more fun to play the underdog so to speak.
And when and if the time comes for us to be invaded there is several options to chose from depending on whether you are just playing the game to kill mechs or if you also try to roleplay a bit.

If you just kill mechs, what different does it makes who sends you to battle, as long as there is killing to be done.
If you are into the lore a bit more, you can always leave and get work as a disgrunted and outcast merc, worked for many main characters in books and films. You can offcourse stay, meeting fellow dissidents in secret cellers and waiting for the day of liberation, after all, what has the roman...ghost bears ever done for us.

#6 Sinitron

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 03:57 AM

I will commit myself to fighting the subversive influence of the evil clanners, no matter the cost. I'd rather be subjugated by the Draconis Combine again than those ghoulish tube baby freaks of nature. They are unnatural and deserve desolation.

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 04:01 AM

View PostSinitron, on 25 July 2012 - 03:57 AM, said:

I'd rather be subjugated by the Draconis Combine again than those ghoulish tube baby freaks of nature.


Seems like you are in the wrong faction then. ;)

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 04:12 AM

View PostFireNova, on 25 July 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:


Seems like you are in the wrong faction then. ;)

No, the whole samurai thing doesn't appeal to me. Just saying they're the lesser of two evils.

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 04:19 AM

View PostSinitron, on 25 July 2012 - 04:12 AM, said:

No, the whole samurai thing doesn't appeal to me. Just saying they're the lesser of two evils.


Dang, next thing you will tell me is that ComStar/Word of Blake is a hero to the Inner Sphere! :ph34r:

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 04:21 AM

If the FRR is not strong enough to face our brothers, the Bears, then let them fall...

Either way, it will be interesting to see how the devs work everything after the invasion.

Edited by Phelan Kerensky, 25 July 2012 - 04:21 AM.


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Posted 25 July 2012 - 06:49 AM

View PostFireNova, on 25 July 2012 - 04:19 AM, said:

Dang, next thing you will tell me is that ComStar/Word of Blake is a hero to the Inner Sphere! :ph34r:

At least the telephone company provides a reliable service, unlike clanner scum.

#12 Thorn Hallis

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 06:59 AM

Ghost Bears? Return of the Necroyeti, I say. They're more grim and frostbitten then the FRR, thats for sure.

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 07:44 AM

Necrophiles! How revolting!

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 09:08 AM

Aren't there 50 threads on this crap already?

Why is a guy from Kurita coming in and posting a new one?

#15 FireNova

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 09:16 AM

View PostSinitron, on 25 July 2012 - 06:49 AM, said:

At least the telephone company provides a reliable service, unlike clanner scum.


Yeah, that same "telephone company" being responsible for the oppression/suffering of numerous worlds and the Word of Blake Jihad responsible for the deaths of countless innocent lives with nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons being used on the people of the Inner Sphere. You really find WMD terrorism THAT appealing? Then again, SJ haters seem to have this weird obsession with fanatical terrorists in the BT universe like the Blakists. :ph34r:

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 11:50 AM

View PostFireNova, on 25 July 2012 - 09:16 AM, said:

Then again, SJ haters seem to have this weird obsession with fanatical terrorists in the BT universe like the Blakists. :ph34r:

"Boohoo, why doesn't anyone like the Smoke Jaguars!"

http://www.sarna.net...nderholm_Revolt

How are Comstar and the Word of Blake any worse again? The Smoke Jaguars are cruel tyrants and murderers, slaughtering their own civilians.

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 01:43 PM

Same topic same questions same answers

Kill them all

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 01:49 PM

View PostSinitron, on 25 July 2012 - 11:50 AM, said:





How are Comstar and the Word of Blake any worse again?


Uh......this?


I mean.....at this point you are admitting that Jihad Blakist terrorism is ok by your standards......so.....I fail to see how the Smoke Jaguars who used conventional methods are worse than ComStar's assassination of intellectuals in the Successor States, hiding of lostech that could better the lives of countless people and in some cases preventing the Succession Wars altogether.....and the Word of Blake .....well...nuclear weapons are ok? Could you please tell me how WMDs are ok by your standards considering how in the real world we live in that it is such a great threat today? Could you please explain how ComStar/Word of Blake is such a hero to the Inner Sphere that we should all bow down and praise Blake for all the scraps of lostech they throw at us every now and then whilst keeping the whole Inner Sphere technologically inferior and preserving the status quo?

Do you not realize that the true threat to the Inner Sphere is the one that has been hiding in plain view of the IS for all this time? Who was it that pulled all the strings from the time of the collapse of the Star League? Operation Holy Shroud? Scorpion? Fourth Succession War? Why is it ok for ComStar/Word of Blake to get away with THEIR crimes while only Smoke Jaguar is the guilty party here? Why is it that people continue to buy into the liberal ComStar propaganda (Or embrace the radical Word of Blake for that matter)? Why embrace the double standards that both ComStar and Word of Blake use to keep people guessing? Why did ComStar decide to use its power for evil and personal gain in the background/shadows whilst claiming "neutrality" from the conflicts raging around them?

Last I checked Sinitron, the Clans never conducted espionage or assassinations or WMD attacks against the Inner Sphere. Brutality, yes. Strict adherence to Clan law, yes. Conventional use of Warships and Mech/Elemental forces, yes. But never WMDs, never nukes, never bio weapons, never chemical weapons, never some plan to manipulate Successor States from the shadows in some ulterior motive/conspiracy. Yes the Clans attacked the Inner Sphere. But at least it was in the open with their stated goal to capture Terra from the start. ComStar on the other hand, orchestrated everything from the background. The Succession Wars, the political scheming, the treachery, the shadow wars with other Successor State intelligence services, the hiding of Star League technology, the plan to eventually fully force THEIR OWN way of life on the whole Inner Sphere, the HPG blackouts to those who dared defy their new world order, etc.

Even if you are right about the Clans forcing their way of life on the IS, do you really think that ComStar/Word of Blake would let you be truly free? Just because ComStar/Word of Blake is not open about their plans does not mean that they do not have plans for pro IS followers like yourself Sinitron. Sooner or later Sinitron, you will find out to your surprise that things are not always what they seem at first glance, and someday the true face of evil will show itself......

There are indeed lesser evils in BT Sinitron.....but there are also GREATER EVILS. Its the greater evils that you truly should look out for.

ComStar/Word of Blake is bad news. Its ironic that people like you are so caught up on what they see (Clans)....that they fail to react or look into the things that they DO NOT see (ComStar/Word of Blake). I hope you at least give some thought to what ComStar/WoB has done and understand that while the Clans may be at fault for a good deal of wrongs, its the hidden wrongs that also need to be revealed for all to see.

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 03:30 PM

View PostSinitron, on 25 July 2012 - 03:57 AM, said:

I will commit myself to fighting the subversive influence of the evil clanners, no matter the cost. I'd rather be subjugated by the Draconis Combine again than those ghoulish tube baby freaks of nature. They are unnatural and deserve desolation.


Hm. Clan Care Bear is actually quite decent, unlike Clan Steam Kitten. They later protect you quite abit from the Wobble Brigade too.

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 04:55 PM

The Ghost Bears do seem to be less doctrinally hidebound than the rest of the Clans. I would prefer not to have the Republic subjugated by anyone and will fight to the last to prevent it, but there are worse foes to fight.





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