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#1 Draxos Synge

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 11:55 AM

When will this becoming out? I want one of these since we arent ever gonna see a Rifleman or Warhammer in game, thanks HG you suck ***! Anyway was just curious what mech others were eagerly waiting for.

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:08 PM

Blackjack.... possibilities!!!!! :)

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:09 PM

I don't think the Blackjack is the alternative to the Rifleman or Warhammer.

Awesome 8Q is the best stand-in for Warhammer, or Cataphract maybe despite looking nothing like it, the 'Phract can pack a similar loadout on the 1X and 3D, I think.

Jagermech is the replacement for the Rifleman.

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 01:25 PM

Yea the Jagermech is closer to a rifleman. Still the Blackjack looks nice at least in the concept art.

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 01:27 PM

View PostDraxes Synge, on 08 January 2013 - 11:55 AM, said:

When will this becoming out?

The Blackjack has no announced release date. When it gets one, I will post it to my List of current and announced 'mechs.

However, if they keep up with their 1-mech-a-month schedule, it's slated for June.

Edited by stjobe, 08 January 2013 - 01:28 PM.


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Posted 08 January 2013 - 01:31 PM

Honestly, if it weren't for it not being an FWLM 'Mech, I'd be all over it.

Blackjack is one of my favorite TT Mechs; a great middleweight, direct fire weapons platform. Looks like all hardpoints are on the arm though?

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 01:36 PM

Well unless they speed up release dates for mechs, the BlackJack won't be in game until June. Totally sucks, I know...

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 01:37 PM

YES PLEASE. ill take 3

#9 80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 01:41 PM

As soon as it come out, I'm making go as fast as I possibly can and jamming 2 lb10x's in it and making it a hunter killer.

Hopefully, I can get it to go over 115kph

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 01:47 PM

Was going to get it, but as I don't want another medium I'm just going to wait for the Jagermech to come out for my ballistic fix. Hopefully they can get the ballistics to actually work how they should by then.

#11 80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 01:48 PM

View Postjakucha, on 08 January 2013 - 01:47 PM, said:

Was going to get it, but as I don't want another medium I'm just going to wait for the Jagermech to come out for my ballistic fix. Hopefully they can get the ballistics to actually work how they should by then.



If you want a ballistic fix, whats wrong with the 4x?

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 01:52 PM

View Postmwhighlander, on 08 January 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

As soon as it come out, I'm making go as fast as I possibly can and jamming 2 lb10x's in it and making it a hunter killer.

Hopefully, I can get it to go over 115kph


You won't have much room for anything on that thing. 22 tons for the 2 LBX10s, 10.5 to 16 tons for the engine, 8.5 tons of armor (granted you can cut this). That is a lot to fit into a 45 ton mech.

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 02:04 PM

Alright, aces are wild, who's dealing?

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 02:13 PM

I was interested in this mech until I noticed it does not have lower arm actuators :P It might be okay if it has fast torso twist.

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 02:20 PM

View PostDraxes Synge, on 08 January 2013 - 01:25 PM, said:

Yea the Jagermech is closer to a rifleman. Still the Blackjack looks nice at least in the concept art.

Blackjack is the poor man's rifleman/jagermech.

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 02:24 PM

View Postmwhighlander, on 08 January 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

As soon as it come out, I'm making go as fast as I possibly can and jamming 2 lb10x's in it and making it a hunter killer.

Hopefully, I can get it to go over 115kph

You can, but only one variant; the BJ-1X can mount a 295 engine, putting it at 106.2 kph (116.8 with Speed Tweak). All the other variants can only mount 235 rated engines, maxing out at 84.6 (93.0) kph.

Also, with a 295XL engine, Endo Steel, Ferro-fibrous armour, you'd still have to shave off some armour just to mount 2 LB-10X in there, and almost all of it if you want ammo for the guns as well.

So, in short, don't get your hopes up too high for that dual-LB10-X light hunter BlackJack.

#17 80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 02:40 PM

View Poststjobe, on 08 January 2013 - 02:24 PM, said:

You can, but only one variant; the BJ-1X can mount a 295 engine, putting it at 106.2 kph (116.8 with Speed Tweak). All the other variants can only mount 235 rated engines, maxing out at 84.6 (93.0) kph.

Also, with a 295XL engine, Endo Steel, Ferro-fibrous armour, you'd still have to shave off some armour just to mount 2 LB-10X in there, and almost all of it if you want ammo for the guns as well.

So, in short, don't get your hopes up too high for that dual-LB10-X light hunter BlackJack.


Hey, But if I can pull it off (by that time hopefully the whole ECM, lagshield fiasco subsides) it will be completely worth it.

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 03:10 PM

View PostKraven Kor, on 08 January 2013 - 01:31 PM, said:

Blackjack is one of my favorite TT Mechs; a great middleweight, direct fire weapons platform. Looks like all hardpoints are on the arm though?

Should have a couple beam hardpoints in the RT and LT, IIRC.

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 05:02 PM

View PostSolis Obscuri, on 08 January 2013 - 03:10 PM, said:

Should have a couple beam hardpoints in the RT and LT, IIRC.



I seen one version of it on the wiki that replaced the ACs with 2 large lasers.

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BJ-1DB - The 1DB Blackjack is a variant intended to increase the 'Mech's lethality. The two autocannons have been replaced with two Large Lasers and several heat sinks have been added to the design to handle the extra heat load. BV (1.0) = 881[3], BV (2.0) = 1,015[5]


Weather this will be viable in MW:O however is a different story. Think that was where I got the "Warhammer feel" for it. The WH uses PPCs but two large lasers and two mediums in the torso would be nice for a close support weapon. It also states they have jump jets which I'm not over concerned about but would be nice to see.


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Posted 15 January 2013 - 07:00 PM

View Poststjobe, on 08 January 2013 - 02:24 PM, said:

You can, but only one variant; the BJ-1X can mount a 295 engine, putting it at 106.2 kph (116.8 with Speed Tweak). All the other variants can only mount 235 rated engines, maxing out at 84.6 (93.0) kph.

Also, with a 295XL engine, Endo Steel, Ferro-fibrous armour, you'd still have to shave off some armour just to mount 2 LB-10X in there, and almost all of it if you want ammo for the guns as well.

So, in short, don't get your hopes up too high for that dual-LB10-X light hunter BlackJack.

you could just run single LB 10x AC and add ac2 for some screen **** to protect your weak/lightly armored body





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