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[SousukeSagara]

For those that have a lesser computer such as me,
with a laptop known as a craptop

Will we be able to lower the settings low enough such as detail, for computers such as a
Acer Aspire Model: 5736Z -4460

[Fourcorner]

low enough ?? 120x5 resolution

i think it's time to buy a new one

[Thorn Hallis]

Except for the devs (and Crytek)...noone knows.

[Fourcorner]

yes, but CryENGINE®3 and a non dedicated gpu will not work together very smooth

[Caballo]

You can always try Crysys 2 and see how your machine moves it. You won't have the exact idea of the performance but at least you'll get a close one. I did it, and it ran smoothly, so now i'm not worried about my pc performance. (Athlon 64 X2 6400+, 4 gb DDR2 and a 460 GTX here)

Offtopic: IMO People tends to magnify the requirements of every game, and to buy astonishing-overpriced rigs. Honestly, an I7, 16 GB of DDR3 and two 580GTX are what a 3d designer may want, but for a gamer those things are far away from the requirements of every game which may be done in the next 4 years. Except for the bragging rights, i find no sense on those machines just to play games.

[SousukeSagara]

Caballo, on 12 January 2012 - 03:36 AM, said:

You can always try Crysys 2 and see how your machine moves it. You won't have the exact idea of the performance but at least you'll get a close one. I did it, and it ran smoothly, so now i'm not worried about my pc performance. (Athlon 64 X2 6400+, 4 gb DDR2 and a 460 GTX here)

Offtopic: IMO People tends to magnify the requirements of every game, and to buy astonishing-overpriced rigs. Honestly, an I7, 16 GB of DDR3 and two 580GTX are what a 3d designer may want, but for a gamer those things are far away from the requirements of every game which may be done in the next 4 years. Except for the bragging rights, i find no sense on those machines just to play games.

yes agreed but I play Everquest 2 if you ever played that, its really CPU and graphic entinsive, really laggy at times
Umm, I own MW2 barley able to play with that (not online though lag is just TOO TERRIBLE)
umm, I didnt actually buy my laptop I got it from work as a reward, but I actually do not have money in the buget(SP) for buying/building a new computer

[Will Hung]

I just hope my venerable Q6600 and HD4870 can handle it.

[Fourcorner]

Caballo, on 12 January 2012 - 03:36 AM, said:

my pc performance. (Athlon 64 X2 6400+, 4 gb DDR2 and a 460 GTX here)

ok the athlon & gtx 460 will work fine but have you read the specs of the aspire notebook ??? only a non dedicated gpu and this won't work for crysis2 and for mwo... sorry

[SousukeSagara]

Fourcorner, on 12 January 2012 - 03:49 AM, said:

ok the athlon & gtx 460 will work fine but have you read the specs of the aspire notebook ??? only a non dedicated gpu and this won't work for crysis2 and for mwo... sorry

Gpu?

[Will Hung]

I hope they release a demo and benchmark tool for MWO, so we can at least gauge our current systems' performance and suitability for the upcoming game, as well as show us a little eyecandy to temporarily sate our anticipation for the game itself.

[Fourcorner]

SousukeSagara, on 12 January 2012 - 03:57 AM, said:

Gpu?

= Graphics Processing Unit

[Masikai]

GPU is graphics processing unit, like a CPU the brain of your computer but dedicated to graphics also known as a video card.

[Artifice]

The graphics required for Crysis 2 far FAR exceed what you'd need for Everquest 2. Just sayin.

If you're having graphics related lag (as opposed to 'net related lag) with EQ2, then it is extremely unlikely that you will be able to play Crysis 2, let alone MWO.

Upgrade. Don't plan on using a laptop for this game unless it's a fancy schmancy handbag poodle swanky beast.

[Volume]

Caballo, on 12 January 2012 - 03:36 AM, said:

You can always try Crysys 2 and see how your machine moves it. You won't have the exact idea of the performance but at least you'll get a close one. I did it, and it ran smoothly, so now i'm not worried about my pc performance. (Athlon 64 X2 6400+, 4 gb DDR2 and a 460 GTX here)

Offtopic: IMO People tends to magnify the requirements of every game, and to buy astonishing-overpriced rigs. Honestly, an I7, 16 GB of DDR3 and two 580GTX are what a 3d designer may want, but for a gamer those things are far away from the requirements of every game which may be done in the next 4 years. Except for the bragging rights, i find no sense on those machines just to play games.

@Offtopic: This is absolutely true. I have an Athlon IIx4 640 Propus running at 3.0GHz, and a Radeon HD 6850, and it runs everything I throw at it fine. When I switched from 4GB to 8GB of RAM, I barely noticed the difference (both running at DDR3 1333MHz). I do not think an i7 is cost effective, or SLI/Crossfired cards have the best price/performance ratio.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand:

I looked up this laptop and its specifications, and looked at the Crysis 2 minimum requirements just to get a feel for what would be playable. CryEngine3 can actually be scaled-down better than previous incarnations of the engine.

It turns out that your laptop has an integrated Graphics Processing Unit, the Intel GMA 4500M. While this, in my mind, did not bode well, as I know many people who have the same GPU in their laptops who have lacking performance, it turns out that Crysis 2, with the graphics settings scaled down tremendously, is actually almost playable for certain configurations. See below.





As you can see, Crysis 2, the only current CryEngine3 game available on the market today (source), will run with mixed results at lower FPS than is satisfactory for my personal tastes, and would certainly be problematic in multiplayer with the texture popping and whatnot seen in the second video.

I highly recommend you upgrade before launch, but since we aren't sure exactly where MWO will stand with minimum settings, if the game is customizable to scale down this far, you might be able to play it.

Edit: When/If you are looking to upgrade, MWO has a lovely Hardware, Accessories, Peripherals sub-forum, your one-stop shop for any topic ranging from your new PC/Laptop to the best Joystick or Mouse for your buck.

Edited by Volume, 12 January 2012 - 05:07 AM.

[SousukeSagara]

Volume, on 12 January 2012 - 04:13 AM, said:

@Offtopic: This is absolutely true. I have an Athlon IIx4 640 Propus running at 3.0GHz, and a Radeon HD 6850, and it runs everything I throw at it fine. When I switched from 4GB to 8GB of RAM, I barely noticed the difference (both running at DDR3 1333MHz). I do not think an i7 is cost effective, or SLI/Crossfired cards have the best price/performance ratio.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand:

I looked up this laptop and its specifications, and looked at the Crysis 2 minimum requirements just to get a feel for what would be playable. CryEngine3 can actually be scaled-down better than previous incarnations of the engine.

It turns out that your laptop has an integrated Graphics Processing Unit, the Intel GMA 4500M. While this, in my mind, did not bode well, as I know many people who have the same GPU in their laptops who have lacking performance, it turns out that Crysis 2, with the graphics settings scaled down tremendously, is actually almost playable for certain configurations. See below.





As you can see, Crysis 2, the only current CryEngine3 game available on the market today (source), will run with mixed results at lower FPS than is satisfactory for my personal tastes, and would certainly be problematic in multiplayer with the texture popping and whatnot seen in the second video.

I highly recommend you upgrade before launch, but since we aren't sure exactly where MWO will stand with minimum settings, if the game is customizable to scale down this far, you might be able to play it.

well as a Teenage and unemployed makes it rather hard t upgrade, I could actually work at any place with eletronics as I have a Cisco cert, but I am to lazy to actually apply and there is no stores around that is hiring, plus would not want a 16 year old lol
Yes I have my Cisco cert

[Mason Grimm]

Moving to HARDWARE section

[Volume]

SousukeSagara, on 12 January 2012 - 05:08 AM, said:

well as a Teenage and unemployed makes it rather hard t upgrade, I could actually work at any place with eletronics as I have a Cisco cert, but I am to lazy to actually apply and there is no stores around that is hiring, plus would not want a 16 year old lol
Yes I have my Cisco cert

Definitely put together a resume & cover letter and send it out to places nearby, even if they don't have a current opening to your knowledge posted. Just send it to their human resources department, and they might try to get you in as an intern after school or something. If that's not an option, just applying to a few places might land you a part time job which would help you save up after a few weeks. Again, MWO might have lower system requirements than Crysis 2, or it might require more, or maybe something will happen and someone will get you a new laptop with a GPU for your birthday between now and then. Once the system requirements are out in cold hard text, prices might come down and you might get lucky

[Vulpesveritas]

Artifice, on 12 January 2012 - 04:07 AM, said:

The graphics required for Crysis 2 far FAR exceed what you'd need for Everquest 2. Just sayin.

If you're having graphics related lag (as opposed to 'net related lag) with EQ2, then it is extremely unlikely that you will be able to play Crysis 2, let alone MWO.

Upgrade. Don't plan on using a laptop for this game unless it's a fancy schmancy handbag poodle swanky beast.

Or has a quad core AMD A-series APU (A6/A8) given they have the ability to play Crysis 2 on medium @ 720p.

[Catamount]

Artifice, on 12 January 2012 - 04:07 AM, said:

The graphics required for Crysis 2 far FAR exceed what you'd need for Everquest 2. Just sayin.

If you're having graphics related lag (as opposed to 'net related lag) with EQ2, then it is extremely unlikely that you will be able to play Crysis 2, let alone MWO.

EQ2's problem wasn't GPU-related, it was CPU-related, and there is basically no system that can properly run that game that I'm aware of, at present. It's really quite easy to code a game that badly, it just doesn't happen very often, because that you end up with a game no one can run.

[CoffiNail]

Well just a thought with MWLL, which is cryengine 2, and less opitmized from what i understand, it is heavily CPU intensive, much more over GPU. People have upgraded GPUs and seen improvments in other games, but only a couple FPS in MWLL.