Gendou, on 02 June 2012 - 06:24 AM, said:
Why is your anecdotal evidence better than this guy's ranecdotal review
or this guy's anecdotal review
Your experiences and opinions are not universal. Just because you had a bad experience with something doesn't mean everyone will, or that the product is a bad one. Please try to share your knowledge without coming across as Master and Commander of All Things Audio.It might make it easier to hear your advice.
It was a little quip of the AX Pros. Didn't have detail for it, which is the simple problem.
I can explain other reasons why it sucks, such as the gimmick of multi-driver headphones, which your G930 has. Dolby Headphone and CMSS-3D can simulate surround sound just as well with stereo headphones (second link I posted in that other post explains it), as well as having a bit more freedom in which headphone to use. The build quality of the headphones themselves were dubious until the fizzled driver. Rarely any metal, largely plastic. Sound-wise, I don't remember exactly. Positional sound was better when it was set properly, which was largely by using the 3.5mm plugs each in a 5.1 fashion. Using USB or the toslink had ridiculously crappy positionals, which makes this headphone not exactly good with laptops, which my friend was using. He had to opt for an external sound card to do proper positional sounds, which is an extra cost. He also wanted it to work with the damn PS3, which worked fine, well of course until one of the drivers just plainly died.
What also matters is if it's worth the $160. Honestly, can't remember the sound of it. Definitely isn't worth it if the build quality isn't up to par.
Gendou, on 02 June 2012 - 06:24 AM, said:
I've owned my headset for over a year. Why would you assume I wouldn't know that? Why would you assume you need to inform me about my own headset? And why would you assume that an audible low-battery warning would be annoying to me?
I see it as a feature - it gives me a solid, unequivocal warning when I have less than an hour of gaming left, and I can immediately plug them into the cable next to me. Done and done, and mid-game to boot. But clearly I would know that. I bought them. I own them. So why the condescending pseudo-informative offer of information about something I would already know?
Oh because I've kept hearing that beep constantly from someone who owned the headset. Oh it was annoying... to me, and everyone else who had to hear it. Everyone heard it, not just the wearer. Of course, that's partially the user's fault too for not keeping it charged. Funny thing is that I was going to buy that headset a long time ago. Course that was before the research and such.
I just don't understand your attitude.
But honestly, it's because I don't want people regretting their purchases. We all know those purchases. If it's a bit condescending, it wouldn't be the first time that I've been told so.
I also have to mention that I'm kind of getting sick of hearing distorted or noisy microphones and if it's broken, they don't want to replace the headset. They become an incredible detriment to a team or such simply because I can't understand them. Solution? Separate microphone. Then there's the fancy ones who want it on their headset. Solution? Well, the Antlion Modmic is an expensive one, but the Zalman one is another.
Catamount, on 02 June 2012 - 06:50 AM, said:
Lakeraven, I'm sorry to say that most of those positional audio systems just don't work. Like I said, I had a Xonar DX, gave it away because of driver issues. Almost all sound cards have terribad drivers, but when the BSODs started rolling in with the "latest" version, a word a use liberally because Asus rarely updates them, I just found no point. But even when using it, the positional audio was questionable at best.
Even without that card, I have access to Creative's Xfi software with my onboard, including CMSS3D for headphone surround, and it's even worse. The positional audio doesn't work, and
it makes it sound like you're listening to the sound underwater. I realize that any system that tries to artificially expand the soundstage is going to cause some distortion, but it's like Creative isn't even trying.
In fairness, most USB headsets don't work great either for positional audio. The Logitech's G35s' positional audio is very lacking. Never tried the 930s myself, but heard a glowing review from the couples friends I know who have them, for whatever that's worth.
Also haven't tried the Astro mixamp, but I've heard good things. Insofar as what I've used though, almost no positional audio system short of discrete 5.1/7.1 works. This Vengeance set is the first exception there.
Sound in general on the Vengeance 1500 is, again, better than one would except. They aren't AD700s (they shouldn't be; they're cheaper and have other features the AD700s lack), but they're closer than they should be, and that's a win as far as I'm concerned, all other features considered.
You're right on all counts with the Carcharias. For $40-$50, they're really quite good, but they're made of tissue paper. I went through two in a year before giving up. If one can avoid breaking them, they sound crisp, if a bit bright like most gaming headsets (which is usually intentional), and while I'd say they're comfortable, really, you just don't feel them at all while wearing them... which sadly is due to the same light construction that makes them break all the time.
And yeah, you're right about the mics on a lot of sets. They really are terrible, and I don't know why. A mic doesn't have to be that good to be good enough for others in VOIP to hear you loud and clear, without annoying distortions (or buzzing, like one friend's does), so when companies fail at that, as they so often do, they're failing pretty hard
Um... the Corsair headset uses Dolby Headphone. It's also a stereo headset, but simulates surround.
And there's a certain way to do it properly for the Asus Xonar DX and don't enable GX. I learned that the hard way. The GX is the MAIN reason why it BSODs. Turned it off, no difference in audio, as well as being fully stable. But basically, you have to set it to 6 or 8 Channels, and then turn on Dolby Headphone and the Shifter. Put it to DH-2 or DH-3. But yes, I'm fully aware that this is a common problem. Another solution is third party drivers
The Astro Mixamp works nearly as well as the other Dolby Headphone solutions.
And the G35, if I'm correct, is virtually identical to the G930 except the latter is wireless.
Edited by Lakevren, 02 June 2012 - 07:25 AM.