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#1 misha4ever

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 05:56 PM

I have a pretty well optimized system. Its starting to show its age but even the most recent games i can pretty much play on top settings. I am pretty tech savy and tend to know how to get the most out of system and the games settings.

However i read the specs for ram was 4gigs, theres been a few games lately suggesting this however even with 2 gigs and a well optimized windows 7 64 killing many useless background programs etc ive been completely fine.

It does not make sense for me at this point to get more ram into this system as i use my laptop for school mostly and gaming is just a 2ndary thing. Is there other people using 2 gigs and how are you noticing the effects? Lack of ram will tend to have total load freezes as your system catches up with harddrive at times etc [i know this from way back from pentium3 days when i lacked ram in games]

Is the game alt tabbable? Please respond if you have a competent level of understanding of this subject.

#2 Khobai

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 05:57 PM

CPU and GPU are more important. If you have a quadcore CPU and a decent GPU I imagine the game will run fine on 2 gigs of RAM.

#3 misha4ever

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 06:16 PM

Dont worry abou cpu/gpu i simply need to know if 2 gigs will cover the game useage. Even a task manager ram allocation number would be great to hear from people. Or people with 2 gigs experiencing lack or ram induced stutter [which is alot different then cpu/gpu performance fps lag].

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 06:16 PM

How optimized can your rig possibly be with 2gigs ram and win7 64...

Anyway its f2p so just try it when you can.

Edited by AlienInvader, 06 August 2012 - 06:19 PM.


#5 misha4ever

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 06:22 PM

Well issue is im going to be buying the founder pack, but this decision will be influenced by that.

You dont know much of what u are saying alieninvader on this subject if u dont understand your first statement. A system with 1 gig would run fine with win 7-64. Ram count doesnt suddenly increase speed or what your idea of optimization is. It has a different effect.

Optimized atleast to me is defined by made to run as best as conditions will allow. Plz only people with tech compentence respond ;/

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 06:27 PM

OK run that 64-bit file system on 2 gigs ram OPTIMIZED. Good luck.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 06:33 PM

Realistically, if you buy a Founder's pack, and you are already aware you don't meet the minimum specs, you are taking a big risk. The statistics state that you need 4 gigs of RAM, because the engine that the game runs on is notorious for having high system specs. The recommended specs ask for /eight/ gigs.

Can you play it? Maybe. Can you play it well enough to justify spending 30, 60, or even 120 dollars for this game? Probably not.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 06:35 PM

If you try and play below the system specs you're gonna have a bad time.

Also seriously dude 2GB in 2012 is not a "well-optimized" gaming system. Try playing at 1024x768 and you'll be fine. Don't fire back with "But I play this" or "I can play that". Just take my WORD for it.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 06:40 PM

8GB of really good ram is $40-50, I think you'll generally be really happy if you upgrade, both for this game and for general productivity.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 06:57 PM

View PostBerserker, on 06 August 2012 - 06:40 PM, said:

8GB of really good ram is $40-50, I think you'll generally be really happy if you upgrade, both for this game and for general productivity.


Have to agree, can't imagine running this with anything less than 4GB (I can't imagine why anyone would want to run 64bit WIndows 7 with under 4GB). 8GB is pretty becoming the new standard with a great deal of programs utilizing the 64bit OS.

#11 misha4ever

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 07:18 PM

There are alot of responses here that really dont know much about the topic or hardware theres even a anti myth hardware post in these forums plz dont make dumb posts from what you know from hearsay lol.. other then Oshay

Does anyone have an actual ram footprint the game makes??

Once more for the handicaps mocking the phrase optimized. It is meaning i have my software as cleanly and effectively run as possible, aka shutting down background services, tweaked drivers and such please use your brain. Optimial, and optimized haev different meanings.

Last years metro game recommended 4gigs, but biggest games ive checked in my own task manager so far havent passed 1.2 gigs. Developers over statespecs because the common user runs default windows and usually background programs and such so theres a bit of buffer in their requirements. I am looking for accurate ram utilization.... and personal experience from users with 2 gigs

No more silly responses please ;/

re beserker- machine runs great for everything from the little cad i do in engineering to skyrim to anything else ive thrown at it tryin not to spend money if i dont have too

Xantheneal- resolution has little to nothing to do with system ram, its almost soley carried by video ram, u are part of the misinformed.

Edited by misha4ever, 06 August 2012 - 07:20 PM.


#12 Oshay

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 07:21 PM

The problem is that the only people who could give you a proper RAM footprint are in the Beta, and thus bound by the Non-Disclosure Agreement we signed to get into the Beta, Misha.

So unfortunately, none of us are allowed to answer your question with the concrete numbers you desire.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 07:24 PM

Well if you want to run this like a slideshow with frequent CTD's, good luck to ya.

Edited by AlienInvader, 06 August 2012 - 07:41 PM.


#14 misha4ever

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 07:27 PM

Oh i figured that would be ok to talk about, but i understand now.. i think ill just take the risk. Hard to spend money into engineering coop money starts coming in which isnt till next summer :X

Thanks, cya in the game :D

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 07:28 PM

View Postmisha4ever, on 06 August 2012 - 07:18 PM, said:

There are alot of responses here that really dont know much about the topic or hardware theres even a anti myth hardware post in these forums plz dont make dumb posts from what you know from hearsay lol.. other then Oshay

Does anyone have an actual ram footprint the game makes??

Once more for the handicaps mocking the phrase optimized. It is meaning i have my software as cleanly and effectively run as possible, aka shutting down background services, tweaked drivers and such please use your brain. Optimial, and optimized haev different meanings.

Last years metro game recommended 4gigs, but biggest games ive checked in my own task manager so far havent passed 1.2 gigs. Developers over statespecs because the common user runs default windows and usually background programs and such so theres a bit of buffer in their requirements. I am looking for accurate ram utilization.... and personal experience from users with 2 gigs

No more silly responses please ;/

re beserker- machine runs great for everything from the little cad i do in engineering to skyrim to anything else ive thrown at it tryin not to spend money if i dont have too

Xantheneal- resolution has little to nothing to do with system ram, its almost soley carried by video ram, u are part of the misinformed.




Go try to play Crysis 2, or go here http://www.systemreq...cyri/intro.aspx and select it on the list.


I'm pretty sure you're screwed with 2gb ram.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 07:28 PM

View Postmisha4ever, on 06 August 2012 - 07:27 PM, said:

Oh i figured that would be ok to talk about, but i understand now.. i think ill just take the risk. Hard to spend money into engineering coop money starts coming in which isnt till next summer :X

Thanks, cya in the game :D


I would suggest the veteran and start from there.

#17 misha4ever

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 07:30 PM

I was able to play crysis 2 absolutely smoothly, its the same engine???

Likely will take a bit more ram then Crysis 2 i figure since theres online aspects to load, ok well fingers crossed

Edited by misha4ever, 06 August 2012 - 07:31 PM.


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Posted 06 August 2012 - 07:35 PM

View Postmisha4ever, on 06 August 2012 - 07:30 PM, said:

I was able to play crysis 2 absolutely smoothly, its the same engine???

Likely will take a bit more ram then Crysis 2 i figure since theres online aspects to load, ok well fingers crossed


From the FAQ
Q. What game engine is being used to develop the next MechWarrior® game?

A. We are proud to announce that CryENGINE®3 powers MechWarrior® Online™.



Snippet from the "Founder's Q&A"

MechWarrior Online Minimum System Spec:

CPU:
Core 2 Duo E6750 2.66GHz
Athlon II X2 245e

GPU:
GeForce 8800GT
Radeon HD 5600/5700

RAM:
4 GB

OS:
Windows XP 32-bit SP3

DirectX:
DX9

HDD Space:
4 GB


MechWarrior Online Recommended System Spec:

CPU:
Core i3-2500
AMD Athlon II X4 650

GPU:
GeForce GTX 285
Radeon HD 5830

RAM:
8 GB

OS:
Windows 7 SP-1 64-Bit

DirectX:
DX9

HDD Space:
4 GB

A few notes on the system requirements for absolute clarity. Right now a duo core system is our minimum spec machine but it is also our main focus of concern. It is playable on those specifications and I have tested it myself but it is currently very much a minimum spec type of experience running on low detail settings. Currently it’s obvious that a Quad core system is the key as even the earliest Core 2 Quad systems run the game very well. However at this point in time we have only been able to spend a very minor amount of time working on optimizations and it is our goal since there are still so many out there to get the Core 2 Duo systems running much faster.

Okay, hopefully that gives you guys all the information you could possibly want to be the best beta tester, potential Founders Program customer or simply consumer of MechWarrior Online. Sorry if one or more items isn’t exactly as you would hope it to be, but were working hard and we truly feel that all signs thus far say that the core experience of MWO is everything we could have hoped for. Now we just need to keep adding layers of features. Thanks for reading and remember you guys are the best community in all of gaming, keep treating each other with respect and together we will bring MechWarrior back to glory.

Russ Bullock
President
Piranha Games Inc.

-end snippet-




Also my guess would be the game will be aimed at DX10 & 11, but DX9 would probably still be an option.

Edited by Iron Harlequin, 06 August 2012 - 07:37 PM.


#19 misha4ever

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 07:36 PM

Yeh i had thought crytek 3 was... the next next crysis engine i wasnt sure :P

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 07:38 PM

View Postmisha4ever, on 06 August 2012 - 06:22 PM, said:

A system with 1 gig would run fine with win 7-64.


Yes but you probably wouldn't be able to run anything else...


View Postmisha4ever, on 06 August 2012 - 05:56 PM, said:

Is the game alt tabbable?


Why do you ask? Just seems like an odd question.

Don't certain versions of Win7 come with something called...Ready Boost?....It allows you to plug in a flash drive and I believe windows will use it as a page file instead of the harddrive. Only worth doing on low memory systems, but it might help you load stuff more quickly.

Also, ram isn't that big an investment. You could probably get 8gigs of ram for less than the cost of the Elite founder.





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