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#1 Wraith 1

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 12:44 PM

Alright, I love a game that makes you feel like you're really stuck in the cockpit of a giant war machine. This is the reason why MW2 Mercs is probably my favorite game of all time.

This is also the reason why I was a little worried about a MW MMO. I'm personally a part of the "BT is serious business" crowd, immersion = gameplay in my mind.

But this is a MMO, and there are going to be Bronies with rainbow lasers, Goons with zerg rushes, and Mechassault fans with hordes of badly configured Timberwolves. Everyone has their own playstyle, and not everyone agrees with each other...

... But in the MW universe, if everyone agreed with each other, why would they do nothing but kill each other with giant robots for over 300 years?

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 12:48 PM

It's not going to be an open world MMO like WoW or GW or whatever, and you won't be able to make rainbow lasers, so no worries there. I'm not sure if you're actually worried or saying anything at all.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 12:54 PM

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View PostGreyrook, on 17 August 2012 - 12:48 PM, said:

It's not going to be an open world MMO like WoW or GW or whatever, and you won't be able to make rainbow lasers, so no worries there. I'm not sure if you're actually worried or saying anything at all.



1. I know it's not an open world, but if you look at TF2, there's still a ton of crap people can pull.

2. SPLAS + MPLAS + LPLAS + spamming everywhere

3. WAS worried. And I'm bored; I didn't get beta and I can't afford founders.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 12:57 PM

View PostWraith 1, on 17 August 2012 - 12:54 PM, said:

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1. I know it's not an open world, but if you look at TF2, there's still a ton of crap people can pull.

2. SPLAS + MPLAS + LPLAS + spamming everywhere

3. WAS worried. And I'm bored; I didn't get beta and I can't afford founders.


Sorry about your luck, mate. Hopefully though, since the lasers are red green and blue respectively, if they're fired all at once it should just look white.

#5 JFlash49

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 01:10 PM

300 years...wow...
such a rich history..
and i dont get the point youre making here :\

#6 sumdumfu

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 11:05 AM

I... I don't think invulnerable means what you think it means. cuz it makes no sense in the context of your title.

#7 Aresye

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 07:45 AM

Sorry Wraith. I didn't realize I should be adjusting my play style and avoid doing things in the game I might find fun in order to cater to your feelings of immersion.

I'll let all the beta guys know for ya.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 08:49 AM

View PostAresye, on 19 August 2012 - 07:45 AM, said:

Sorry Wraith. I didn't realize I should be adjusting my play style and avoid doing things in the game I might find fun in order to cater to your feelings of immersion.

I'll let all the beta guys know for ya.

Make sure to tell them that "Battletech is serious business" ;)

Edited by Fabe, 19 August 2012 - 08:52 AM.


#9 Douglas Reichel

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 03:32 AM

I really have to say...I'm kind of depending on the concept of those guys doing those sorts of things. So I know who to kill first. Odds are they won't be very good at the game anyway.

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 03:50 AM

Speak for yourself, I'm making rainbow lasers DAMN IT!

Just kidding... though I'll probably paint my mech up like applejack... >_>

#11 Maire Devylin

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 03:56 AM

I'm not a part of the "BT is serious business" crowd but, it's human nature to fight with each other, that's a good enough explanation for me. Also, this game is as not a MMO. It's more of a Multiplayer Game because you aren't interacting with hundreds or thousands of people at the same time.

And yes there will be bronies but they can't craft rainbow lasers and pony armor for their Atlases, so, again, not a MMO. Pony colored Mechs, sure, they could have done that in the BT universe. If they want to stick out like a girl in an all boys high school.

Besides, you haven't played it yet and comparing this to what goes on in TF2 is about as off the mark as you can get.

Edited by Maire Devylin, 20 August 2012 - 03:56 AM.


#12 GnawTsatyr

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 04:18 AM

View PostWraith 1, on 17 August 2012 - 12:44 PM, said:

Alright, I love a game that makes you feel like you're really stuck in the cockpit of a giant war machine. This is the reason why MW2 Mercs is probably my favorite game of all time.

This is also the reason why I was a little worried about a MW MMO. I'm personally a part of the "BT is serious business" crowd, immersion = gameplay in my mind.

But this is a MMO, and there are going to be Bronies with rainbow lasers, Goons with zerg rushes, and Mechassault fans with hordes of badly configured Timberwolves. Everyone has their own playstyle, and not everyone agrees with each other...

... But in the MW universe, if everyone agreed with each other, why would they do nothing but kill each other with giant robots for over 300 years?


Sigh... this is not MMO... It is MWO... Why don't ppl understand their acronyms? To say this is MMO is to say that CoD is MMO. Nobody ever called it that. Hence dissimilar status. This is what ppl enjoyed when more thought was involved than the mere hack N slash or run N gun play style that ppl take for granted nowadays. Put some THOUGHT into it, and you are guaranteed to enjoy the game. End of story and end of transmission.

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 04:50 AM

View PostGnawTsatyr, on 20 August 2012 - 04:18 AM, said:


Sigh... this is not MMO... It is MWO... Why don't ppl understand their acronyms? To say this is MMO is to say that CoD is MMO. Nobody ever called it that. Hence dissimilar status. This is what ppl enjoyed when more thought was involved than the mere hack N slash or run N gun play style that ppl take for granted nowadays. Put some THOUGHT into it, and you are guaranteed to enjoy the game. End of story and end of transmission.


Semantics, semantics.

The definition of MMO seems to be:

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MMO (online gaming) A massively multiplayer online game. A computer game in which a large number of players can simultaneously interact in a persistent world.


And depending on how MWO is going to work, with its persistent world, I'd argue that the MMO label applies; but to each his or her own.

More on topic:

I do not share the poster's fear of lack of immersion factor. The campaigns in the mechwarrior 2 games, as well as mechwarrior 3, were great! - Not so much with mechwarrior 4, though.

However, what mechwarrior 4 had going for it was the multiplayer aspect - and you could immerse yourself just as much as you wanted to. The people playing mw4 online ranged from people who roleplayed to an extreme degree, to people, who could only be described as "very relaxed". And it honestly never caused any issues, if you ask me.

If you have a serious problem with other people not "roleplaying their part" in the mech stomping fun that is MWO, this is not the game for you.

Otherwise: Find a good unit that has the same values as you do and take it from there.

Edited by Drow, 20 August 2012 - 04:51 AM.


#14 Aresye

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 01:50 PM

View PostDouglas Reichel, on 20 August 2012 - 03:32 AM, said:

I really have to say...I'm kind of depending on the concept of those guys doing those sorts of things. So I know who to kill first. Odds are they won't be very good at the game anyway.


I'm confused about why people think personal skill in an online game is a direct relation to their non-gaming hobbies.

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 02:26 PM

View PostAresye, on 20 August 2012 - 01:50 PM, said:


I'm confused about why people think personal skill in an online game is a direct relation to their non-gaming hobbies.

As am I. OH well I'm sure people like Douglas will end up chocking on their words when they end up on the receiving end of a Pinkie pie mech's AC/20 party canon.

Edited by Fabe, 20 August 2012 - 02:26 PM.


#16 Evostvo

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 02:38 PM

Wait for the Giant Mech Santa Claus skins come Christmas

Edit- And the Jenner Elf skins lol

Edited by Evostvo, 20 August 2012 - 02:39 PM.


#17 Fabe

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 02:42 PM

View PostEvostvo, on 20 August 2012 - 02:38 PM, said:

Wait for the Giant Mech Santa Claus skins come Christmas

Edit- And the Jenner Elf skins lol

Those would be great cash shop items for the holidays ,maybe redo forest colony in a Christmas theme as well.





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