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[William Knight]

As I understand it quite a lot of Argentineans feel very strongly about the Islands, and perhaps a failing president may use a sudden attack on the islands as an attempt to boost popularity.

I have no desire to be sent to another war zone so you must excuse my attempts to convince the Argentinean people to give up their claim to them and respect the will of the people who live there.

[Anchoman]

So we call it Malvinas/falklands and all happy

[William Knight]

And we call them the Falklands.

Edited by William Knight, 20 August 2012 - 03:11 PM.

[Anchoman]

Burn them, burn them like witches :yao:

[SakuranoSenshi]

Anchoman, on 20 August 2012 - 02:01 PM, said:

OK lets stop here a little bit. The fact that military goverment made horrible things to the countrys doesnt mean that I should be a kind of Nazi beliver and I have my brain washed. England was like a vacuum cleaner for Argentina, UK had some bussines with the goverment, and the money that should be from the sellings you are telling, just disappeared. And no farmer seen it. Its hard to explain >.< dunno how to express myself well. corruption thats all. That son of a b.. of Gatieri and friends, keeped all the cash. And selling the stuff to England very cheap, more thant cheap actually. And England knowed this well. When this general/president asked for the Malvinas, UK just said NO.
And this started to be like a smack in the *** for Galtieri, who decided to re take the islands by force.
He had the support of the people, all inhabitants wanted to get the land back. So he sent some high trained group of veterans to get into the governors house (without taking casualties of none of sides) and force him to give the control of the islands.
Thast how it all started

Don't Godwin the thread (okay, technically you already did but still). nobody is a Nazi here and certainly noone's accused you of being one. Again, I tell you, it's Great Britain and not England, which is only part of the UK (which is itself part of Great Britain & NI), talking about England in this context is like me claiming it was Patagonia that invaded the Falklands. Not sure what you mean about a vaccuum cleaner but if you're insinuating some massive drain of money, that's not true, the reverse was the case; the UK put an enormous amount of money into Argentina through trade. One of the more stupid things about the posturing and subsequent war is that they were doing it because of economic problems at home and the resulting unpopularity but they totally destroyed one of the few good things about the economy - a strong export business. We're well aware that your government was corrupt, we all told you that. We're also aware that your government was a brutal, illegal coup that used force and even murder on its opponents, this combined with the sabre rattling over the Falklands was why relations with the UK were cooling in 1982 before the invasion even took place.

Galtierie didn't ask for anything at all and Argentina had already been offered a peaceful way to take over the sovereignty of the islands, all that needed to happen was a guarantee that the islanders' existing rights and customs would not be disturbed. Your government turned it down because Admiral Jorge Anaya wanted a military campaign and Galtieri agreed because he thought it would play well to the people and distract them from what was happening around them. The 'junta' expected the UK to just 'roll over' and take it but that was beyond naive. They illegally invaded South Georgia, first, masquerading as merchants and that led to the Royal Navy starting to mobilize, which is how it really started and why they had to rush the invasion of the Falklands. Highly trained? Hmm... for Argentina, probably. Your government subsequently put a lot of real 'special forces' and elite units on the island, not sure the initial invaders were anything more than regular marines, though. Regardless, it was an illegal invasion and they knew it, they just hoped that the UK wouldn't be prepared to fight a war so far from the British mainland, over a few settlers and some sheep and a group of islands in the middle of the south Atlantic. Needless to say, this was amazingly stupid on every possible count; the UK wouldn't ever let its sovereignty be challenged with impunity, it couldn't possibly be seen to fail to defend a protectorate and in the middle of the Cold War there was no way it would surrender strategically useful territory in an ocean.

[Anchoman]

Its Malvinas not Falklands
England is for english

[SakuranoSenshi]

Anchoman, on 20 August 2012 - 04:36 PM, said:

Its Malvinas not Falklands
England is for english

Don't be (more of) an *****, please.

[Anchoman]

SakuranoSenshi, on 20 August 2012 - 04:39 PM, said:

Don't be (more of) an *****, please.

Why? you are all being so, why cant i be some of that? its kinda funny n.n
Finger up for you

[SakuranoSenshi]

We're not. We've painstakingly corrected your many errors and misconceptions and been quite polite about a foreigner asserting a demonstrably invalid claim to our nation's (or our ally's) territory, especially when said foreigner's nation started a war (and lost) that was a massive waste of life and money for all concerned.

I even answered your original query, which is pretty simple, really - that's the correct term and timezone. Just stop now, please. I'm actually thinking it's time to report the thread and have it locked. Don't turn it into a flame war, when the rest of us have been very even-tempered with you.

[miSs]

Closing as this thread has long outlived it's usefulness.

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