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The mech weapon choice for die-hard House Steiner mechwarriors?


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Poll: The most Steiner-like mech weapon type group are ... (594 member(s) have cast votes)

Which main mech weapon group can be associated the most with House Steiner?

  1. rattling machine guns (MGs) (9 votes [1.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.52%

  2. blazing flamers (1 votes [0.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.17%

  3. armour-cutting small lasers (SLs) (1 votes [0.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.17%

  4. armour-melting medium lasers (MLs) (14 votes [2.36%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.36%

  5. armour-evaporating large lasers (LLs) (13 votes [2.19%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.19%

  6. sizzling particle projection cannons (PPCs) (128 votes [21.55%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.55%

  7. roaring autocannons (ACs) (184 votes [30.98%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.98%

  8. high-speed projectyle-accelerating gauss rifles (GRs) (201 votes [33.84%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.84%

  9. screaming short-range missiles (SRMs) (10 votes [1.68%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.68%

  10. whooshing medium-range missiles (MRMs) (1 votes [0.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.17%

  11. rumbling long-range missiles (LRMs) (25 votes [4.21%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.21%

  12. thundering extended long-range missiles (ELRMs) (7 votes [1.18%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.18%

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#21 Henry Pride

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 02:20 PM

I would do it as i once done in a tabletop game. Get en Atlas with TSM and pick the next Locust as a Cub ^^


For Gunnery Weapon GAUSS!

#22 Petroff Northrup

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 06:22 AM

ACs, nothing says, 'Welcome to Lyran space,' like paired AC20s.

#23 Serith

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 03:07 PM

GAUSSSS AC and PPC FTW!!!! MOAAARRR ATLASSSS

#24 Karl Streiger

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 02:29 PM

You know that the start of producing mech with large caliber main weapons was in the late 50's
In the good old SW era House Liao used mainlly mechs with AC 20s. Steiner rekits used mostly SRMs for the price of longe range capabilitys:
Archer,Thunderbolt...

Edited by Karl Streiger, 27 March 2012 - 02:29 PM.


#25 GDL Irishwarrior

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 10:38 PM

Heavy Gauss Rifles, of course... Nothing quite says "Verpiss dich" like a 500-kilo slug at hypersonic velocity... And if you can mount two (I'm looking at you Fafnir), the Steiners are all the happier

#26 Calvin Bekker

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 12:00 PM

1. Gauss
2. Gauss
and
3. Gauss

#27 ice trey

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 12:13 PM

I'm not a Steiner player, but I can tell you that it's recently become what is likely the most popular Battetech faction, if only due to one thing:

Gauss Rifles.

Sure, the almighty Gauss doesn't really pick up with the faction until the Heavy Gauss starts being churned out (At which point, it's no-holds-barred "Every gauss to a mech" philosophy). We won't likely see the Gauss overdoses for a few years yet.

Prior to the Gauss Rifle, the main idea for the Lyrans was about big 'mechs. The gimmick with the Lyrans was the opposite of the Combine. Lyrans are all about having the money to throw at the problem, but because of social generals, their armies were horribly trained for anything but defensive operations. On the flip side, the Dracs were all about being ridiculously skilled, but had only light 'mechs and heavy 'mechs that think they're light to back it up.

So in this era, the most likely way to make a true Lyran force would be to go with the old "Wall of steel" approach. That is to say, big 'mechs, big guns, and as little engine as possible. Anything that moves more than 65kph is considered a scout. This makes for a very big and durable force, but will leave you open to getting outmaneuvered, so preparing for that sort of thing would be wise.

#28 Kanus Stalker

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 12:21 PM

Give me Autocannons everytime I want to feel the burn as I am sending Hell downrange to the destruction of our enemies :) .

Give me Autocannons everytime I want to feel the burn as I am sending Hell downrange to the destruction of our enemies :) .

#29 Soviet Alex

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 02:38 PM

Your rank in the Steiner military defines your signature weapon. The enlisted ranks (Mechwarrior to Sergeant) use big autocannon until gauss rifles appear. Field Officer ranks generally use steak-knives, as they go to swanky dinner parties to build up the web of social contacts to advance their careers. Senior Officer ranks (Colonels & upwards) are armed with a little black book. At that stage in their careers, who they know is far more important than what they fire. :P

#30 The Destinator

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 03:04 PM

I knew there was a reason I l loved the various Auto Cannons(Ultra and Hyper velocity types are personal favorites) and the Fafnir mech. Guess the Steiner way of thinking is just how I do things. You know, rush up to within 600-700 meters of the enemy and go to town. Granted, it's kind of hard to get in close with an assault mech but hey what the hell are you gonna do against an atlas sporting an UAC20 when your in a puny Owens? Run the hell away is what your gonna do.

Edited by The Destinator, 01 April 2012 - 03:05 PM.


#31 Soviet Alex

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 01:09 AM

Yesterday I watched a Jenner-7F almost singlehandedly take down an Awesome-8Q in Battletech, and the MW-O playtesters have talked about packs of Jenners bringing down Atlases. :)

#32 Karl Streiger

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 08:38 AM

View PostSoviet Alex, on 02 April 2012 - 01:09 AM, said:

Yesterday I watched a Jenner-7F almost singlehandedly take down an Awesome-8Q in Battletech, and the MW-O playtesters have talked about packs of Jenners bringing down Atlases. :)

Single combat?
Had the atlas his rear lasers?
A Atlas how knows his place would never fight out a Duell vs a smaller and more mobile mech - he would close to its objective and leave the flea to his lance mates.

Edited by Karl Streiger, 02 April 2012 - 08:39 AM.


#33 Soviet Alex

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 03:51 PM

Posted ImageKarl Streiger, on 02 April 2012 - 05:38 PM, said:

Had the atlas his rear lasers?
A Atlas how knows his place would never fight out a Duell vs a smaller and more mobile mech - he would close to its objective and leave the flea to his lance mates.

If you've seen the game footage, you should know that there are no rear-firing weapons in MW-O. All 4 lasers on the Atlas in the demo fire forwards. I'm not on the dev playtest team, so I haven't seen Jenners killing Atlases first-hand, I've only read their posts about it afterwards. Ask them how they do it. And get some footage,'cos I'd love to see that. :D

#34 GDL Irishwarrior

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 10:23 PM

View PostSoviet Alex, on 02 April 2012 - 03:51 PM, said:


If you've seen the game footage, you should know that there are no rear-firing weapons in MW-O. All 4 lasers on the Atlas in the demo fire forwards. I'm not on the dev playtest team, so I haven't seen Jenners killing Atlases first-hand, I've only read their posts about it afterwards. Ask them how they do it. And get some footage,'cos I'd love to see that. :D


The LOS system (rather than "detect anything through anything" radar) makes it simple enough, given the right environment.

*An Atlas plods through a city; narrow roads abound. Suddenly, the giant 'Mech rocks forward, molten armor splattering the nearby buildings as missiles and lasers slam into its back. Deactivating the fire control systems' safeties, the Atlas's pilot turns their 'Mech to see a set of fading jump jet exhaust trails where the attacker had been - and promptly gets blasted forward again as another salvo tears at its rear. Calling for backup, the pilot turns to meet this new attacker; again, however, the targeting display shows only jet trails where the enemy had stood. Turning the Atlas's back to a building, the pilot starts to back up - only to take more damage to their rear, as they find that a third enemy has jetted onto the prospective bit of cover. Knowing the consequences, but unable to ignore this threat, the pilot begins to turn their 'Mech...
By the time the Atlas's lancemates manage to find their way through the labyrinthine city, the assault 'Mech's torso is cored and the fusion reactor has gone critical. The pilot is still in the cockpit - dead, either from the reactor's heat or its radiation. Perhaps both. The attackers are gone, leaving only the destroyed 'Mech to prove they ever existed.
Upon inspecting the 100-ton pile of scrap metal, it is discovered that not a single round of the Atlas's ammunition had been expended, and its battle computer's recordings reveal that the pilot had never attained a targeting lock on any of the attacking 'Mechs*

Edited by GDL Irishwarrior, 02 April 2012 - 10:53 PM.


#35 Decimus Antarii

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 07:05 AM

My vote: Anything you can fit on an Atlas without it tipping over.

#36 KANE LIVES

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 11:44 AM

The AC 20 without a doubt. The AC 20. THE AC 20!!!!!!!

Edited by KANE LIVES, 25 May 2012 - 07:35 PM.


#37 Cobweb

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:33 AM

Not sure why this is even a poll.... Lyrans love ballistic direct fire weapons, while I love a good strong PPC or LRM like the next bloke, it's hard to argue with the Lyrans overwhelming propensity to the ubiquitous and underrated AC!

#38 Gwenaelle Focht

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 03:18 PM

It looks as if it will be a neck-and-neck race between those enthusiastic about the, now leading, gauss rifles and the autocannon supporters, but those who fancy PPCs are also still in the race ...

... it seems to be all about penetration power :) ...

#39 Leonidas Rommel

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 10:30 PM

I just love ANYTHING that starts with PPC and ends with Autocannon.

#40 Arturus

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 09:46 AM

Heavy Gauss Rifle....is there really any other choice? :)





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