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#1 Petroff Northrup

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 01:50 PM

A weird thought i had, what if they go AU with this game and the clans never show up in-game?

#2 Gremlich Johns

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 01:51 PM

Then you will have succession war after succession war........ Yawn. No great tech except for forestry mecha.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 02:01 PM

Yes, there are no Clans, there is absolutely no need to field any garrisons on the periphery borders.

Now excuse me, I have to prevent the Ward genetic legacy from falling into the wrong hands...

#4 Petroff Northrup

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 02:03 PM

View PostGremlich Johns, on 12 March 2012 - 01:51 PM, said:

Then you will have succession war after succession war........ Yawn. No great tech except for forestry mecha.


Well things are a bit different now in that the powers have mostly consollidated into 2 factions and CC is rather small compared to the FedCom juggernaught so with no clans it would be easy to see the undistracted FedCom forces sweep CC under the rug which would change things quite a bit.

View PostStormwolf, on 12 March 2012 - 02:01 PM, said:

Yes, there are no Clans, there is absolutely no need to field any garrisons on the periphery borders.

Now excuse me, I have to prevent the Ward genetic legacy from falling into the wrong hands...


Good to know, that takes a load off my mind.

#5 FACEman Peck

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 02:09 PM

Then all hell does NOT break loose in 3060 or so with the FedCom Civil War.

#6 kevin roshak

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 02:25 PM

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#7 Odins Reaver

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 07:51 PM

So all you have to do is take away 90% of the mechs after the 3050 TRO, sounds fun.........

#8 SnowDragon

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 02:35 AM

You know, if Clan gear is supposed to be as hardcore as they want, there's a good chance no player will EVER get their hands on Clan gear. I reckon Clans might just be Bots...

#9 Petroff Northrup

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 08:19 AM

I am not trolling, I play CHH pretty often but it has been bugging me how they would implement the clans in any way and since the FRR has plenty of players and yet there has been almost no word on the clans from the devs.

#10 CoffiNail

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 08:27 AM

The Devs do not want to even try to focus on The Clans until launch, so sayeth King Troll Paul.

They will come, and people will play them Otherwise it is a lot of coding and AI building to make them 'bots' because they 'bots' would need to be VERY VERY good AI to simulate the Clan Warriors elite skills.

Edited by CoffiNail, 13 March 2012 - 08:28 AM.


#11 SnowDragon

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 02:21 PM

I'd take bots Clanners who were programmed to be good over some tweleve year old kid who couldn't pilot for balls...

That'd just break the immersion.

#12 FireNova

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 05:55 PM

View PostSnowDragon, on 13 March 2012 - 02:21 PM, said:

I'd take bots Clanners......






#13 The Birdeater

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 09:27 AM

"What if there are no clans?"

:angry:

View PostSnowDragon, on 13 March 2012 - 02:21 PM, said:

I'd take bots Clanners...




#14 Bonewalker

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:59 PM

If there were no Clans, I'd choose the Draconis Combine.... or go Merc as a Dezgra clanner.

#15 Caballo

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 01:12 PM

less trouble to face...

#16 LORDxXxTAO

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 09:45 AM

Just wanted to point this out the game is set in 3049 but the clans dont invade until 3050.
Just saying.

#17 Storm McIntyre

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 10:15 AM

I'm going to wait and see what the Devs decide to do about the Clans. Whatever they decide I'm pretty sure that it will be something most of us can live with. You see, the Devs are BT players, like us. They know the timeline, like us, and are familiar with the Clans, their equipment, and what it can do to game balance. I'm pretty sure they see the big picture with this game, and are going to make the right moves regarding the Clans. From what I've seen and heard so far the Devs have been doing a great job, so I'm going to defer to their judgement on this and not make any hasty judgements of my own.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 10:22 AM

Regarding the question of the thread: The other houses will loosely ally with themselves and you'll have a cold war of a sorts between the fed-coms and the other three. So, if the FedComs go after one house, the others will go after Fed Com. Comstar will stay nuetral as usual, and after all the soap operas are over - yeah right - the star league will be reborn. It'll last a few years until the First Prince/Princess dies, and then a new succession war will happen. Without the threat of the clans, technology will not be forced to move along at any significant rate, especially as comstar hordes it all and keeps it locked in its vaults. In the end, the game will be endless house wars with lots of mercenaries, and little to show for it.

IF the clans invade, the inner sphere will be galvanized and the reaction will be to beat the clans back onto reservations while doing everything they can to keep up in the arms race. Then the FedCom civil war will happen, then the Word of Blake Jihad, the formation of the Republic of the Sphere which will replace comstar as gaurdian of earth while the houses duke it out with once again equalized technology and heavy use of mercs, and little to show for it except a whole lot more mechs.

That was the literal answer.
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The question logically leads to: when the clans show up (and we KNOW they will), how will it be handled. Here's my current prediction:
The Clans will be an AI force. We, as inner sphere pilots can either keep fighting each other, or go to the clan invasion front and endlessly sacrifice ourselves in order to win enough scavenged parts to make an omnimech so we can go back to fighting other inner-sphere players. The invasion will be unstoppable until the other NPC force, Comstar, magically ends it at Tukayyid. Those who fought the clans to get their edge in tech will then find the black market open up to allow every player who has cash to buy the C-Bills via credit card to buy omnimechs off the market. Some clans may be allowed after tech equalization in the form of Nova Cats (SLDF/Draconis Combine friends), Ghost Bear (FRR friends), Clan Wolf in Exile (who can't make their own mechs anymore), the Smoke Jaguar will be the scapegoat and smashed, and Jade Falcon will remain to be the place to continue the clan war small size forever.

So, in conclusion, the Clans will be AI, and an excuse to allow for new tech to be developed, salvaged, and filtered into the game. If they are actual players, they should not be allowed to purchase premium stuff, and should have to be cut off at 9pm IP address time-zone time to ensure that they 1. don't have credit cards and 2. can't stay up late. So, basically, no one over 18 will be allowed to play clans. They might have the 'hottest omni-mechs this side of outreach' but all the rest of us adults will have a blast schooling them in the art of cooperation, tactics, and strategy.

Edited by Peiper, 16 March 2012 - 02:01 PM.


#19 SirDenOfYork

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 10:30 AM

View PostSnowDragon, on 13 March 2012 - 02:21 PM, said:

I'd take bots Clanners who were programmed to be good over some tweleve year old kid who couldn't pilot for balls... So True...

That'd just break the immersion.


View PostSnowDragon, on 13 March 2012 - 02:21 PM, said:

I'd take bots Clanners who were programmed to be good over some tweleve year old kid who couldn't pilot for balls...

That'd just break the immersion.

So true...

I could not agree more...

#20 Jack Gammel

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 11:02 AM

View PostPetroff Northrup, on 12 March 2012 - 01:50 PM, said:

A weird thought i had, what if they go AU with this game and the clans never show up in-game?


A lot of people will not play. Even for free.

If the developers did not want to deal with integrating and balancing Clan technology they could have simply chosen to place the game in the 4th Succession War. Might not have attracted as many people, but there's no need to bother with Clan tech either.





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