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[SNOWHOUND]

There wont be too much difference between the two.

they both utilize the same gpu.

Not had any experience with evga (or even any Nvidia products so to speak - as i prefer AMD for price/performance) but from what products ive used from msi and from friends they are reasonable.

also the twin frozr, is a rather decent heatsink. which could lead to a bit more overclocking headroom.

Personally id go for MSI despite being the more expensive one.

[Mason Grimm]

According to this the MSI runs 8c degrees cooler than the EVGA card under load

http://www.hardwarec...yte-msi-15.html

[SNOWHOUND]

Had a look on the EVGA website if you buy from them its $289.99 and theres a $30 mail in rebate. which is $10 cheaper than form where your buying from

might be worth a look:

http://www.evga.com/...ts/prodlist.asp

[Mason Grimm]

I'm more concerned about stability and temperature than an extra $10

[SNOWHOUND]

haha fair play.

i doubt heat will be an issue a gpu running between 60C - 70C should be okay (though 70 would worry me a bit). my two 6950s run at 65C -ish under full load and despite being slightly deprived for air coz my case is now a tad crammed, theres no issues whatsoever. i wouldnt worry.

im assuming the carbide has a space on the side of the case for a fan. if heat is an issue/worry you can always slap a 120mm on the side for about $5

Edited by SNOWHOUND, 26 April 2012 - 02:48 PM.

[Mason Grimm]

Yeah it has space for 2x 120mm fans.

I think I am just gonna go on the side of caution and get the MSI I'll have to wait till May 8th for the machine to be picked up but for an extra 8c temperature change for only 1-2fps its probably not all that worth it.

[SNOWHOUND]

I hope it serves you well.

happy gaming.

[Motionless]

So we're looking at two different 560 TI 448 now, eh?

EVGA has a history and reputation of excellent customer support and pain-free RMA.
MSI from what I hear has been more of the opposite, but I can tell you more about this as my own RMA with MSI unfolds -- hopefully it's better than I've heard.

And things being equal I'd probably go EVGA for the peace of mind, but I originally went with my MSI card for the superior cooling (twin frozr design)

Edited by Motionless, 26 April 2012 - 03:09 PM.

[Catamount]

Yeah, you made a fine choice with the MSI card.

They're a good company (at least in terms of product quality, can't speak to customer service), and the card comes with a 3 year warranty, which is basically the life of the card

Edited by Catamount, 26 April 2012 - 03:11 PM.

[Charles Martel]

I've used EVGA cards in my last three builds, they work quite well.

[Mason Grimm]

I went with the EVGA... Slightly faster clock speed and a little hotter (66c under load) but thats why I have 2x 120mm fans on the side.

I did some research on the web, as well as spoke to many of you and EVGA was the went I went cause they have really good customer service and RMA.

[Mason Grimm]

Manefesto, on 24 April 2012 - 04:14 PM, said:

I have the new 448 core 560 ti classified ultra from EVGA, its really good, its a bit more expensive but definately worth it. Just ordered second one for the over kill of SLI.

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814130758

This is exactly the card I got.... http://www.ncix.com/...60&promoid=1067

$269.00 CDN and actually $239.00 After $30 mail in rebate

[UncleKulikov]

That's not a mech chassis.....

[Mason Grimm]

UncleKulikov, on 26 April 2012 - 07:39 PM, said:

That's not a mech chassis.....

Huh? Maybe it's the rum and coke talking but I'm like WT(Frell) ?!?!?!

Wait, you mean as in the mech? I'll specify

[Sug]

Mason Grimm, on 24 April 2012 - 12:56 PM, said:

I am waiting to see what PGI does with joysticks but I am looking at this.....

STICK: Thrustmaster T Flight HOTAS X http://www.thrustmas...en_US/node/1343

Try to see how it feels before you buy it. I had some issues with it:

1. When the throttle and the joystick are joined it put my arms at uncomfortable angles.
2. When they are separated the joystick base wasn't wide enough to keep it upright during use.
3. Weird button on the stick above the trigger. Waaaaay to easy to hit it accidentally with my trigger finger. Had to unmap it.

I'm not even that big a guy (5'10") but I found the stick to be too small. Love the throttle though. If we can have multiple input devices i'll probably use the throttle with my old logitech stick.

[Mason Grimm]

Thanks for the tips Sug....

Morgana has one as well. I think if I separate it (which I will most likely do) I will double sided sticky tape the bottom of the base of the stick and put one component on either side of this gaming keyboard. I will have to wait and see how it all fits and what feels comfy etc.

[Volturnus]

That's a pretty nice build, though I've never been a fan of mid tower cases...

[Solis Obscuri]

Sug, on 26 April 2012 - 08:05 PM, said:

Try to see how it feels before you buy it. I had some issues with it:

1. When the throttle and the joystick are joined it put my arms at uncomfortable angles.
2. When they are separated the joystick base wasn't wide enough to keep it upright during use.
3. Weird button on the stick above the trigger. Waaaaay to easy to hit it accidentally with my trigger finger. Had to unmap it.

I'm not even that big a guy (5'10") but I found the stick to be too small. Love the throttle though. If we can have multiple input devices i'll probably use the throttle with my old logitech stick.

Thanks for the info on that - I was eyeing that model, too. In terms of the stick being "small", how small are we talking? I don't have huge hands for my size, but I'm a fairly big guy (around 6'1" 270), and I probably don't want to have controls that are too cramped together.

Also, I was eyeing the regular T. Flight Stick X, since I used to have pretty good success with my old MS Sidewinder 3D Pro in my MW2 days (until the lack of USB sidelined it). One thing I found handy about the throttle on the stick base was that, in addition to stabilizing the base, I could use my left hand as a partial support for my right for accurate aiming (sort of similar to a two-handed pistol grip). Of course, I remember the spring in the rudder control stacking pretty firmly near the limit of rotation, which didn't always help fine control with the 90º circle-strafing that was essential to MW2..

[Mason Grimm]

I'm 6'2 and 240 and I think my hands wrap around it fine.. They had one at the comp shop that is assembling this rig for me. I do agree though that double sided sticky tape would be needed for the joystick to keep it in place once separated from the base.

[SilentWolff]

You should be happy with that build Mason. A few months ago I built a new system with the same MB/CPU combo as you but with a 560 2 GB and a SSD HD. It ran games great and you should be able to max out settings on most games. With MWO using the Crysis 3 Engine though, I do have a little concern if the 560 ti will be able to run everything at max settings.
I did recently upgrade to a GTX 680 video card http://www3.pny.com/...-P3123C506.aspx , because the 560 was OCed from the factory and had some heat and video distortion issues, it was an EVGA. First time I've ever had an issue with an EVGA card though.